Reply #115: That's the point. And many of them are more liberal than the party and population as a whole

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The polling about Obama is suspect, considering the fact that there was one poll that showed that 30% didn't even know that he was black. So, I don't trust the polls about Obama. I look at what voters have actually done when it came time to vote, and how even though they said they would vote for a black candidate, on election day, they did not.

Only two states have done differently for a statewide federal office, and that's Illinois and Massachusetts. I could be wrong, they could prove me wrong. But I don't for one second trust that the American people would buck the past in 2008 and elect Obama President. The establishment Democrats are already trying to paint him as "inexperienced," and they are supposed to be Democrats, for crying out loud.

Most of the polls for Obama and Clinton right now are based on pretty favorable television coverage of them. That's all.