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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:06 AM
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99. The issues *are* discussed but not by politicians with real power at the moment
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 09:07 AM by LeftishBrit
Left-wing Labour politicians like Tony Benn, John McDonnell, etc. do bring up these issues - and they are certainly brought up a great deal by people outside politics. But the top people in the two main parties are not inclined to consider them seriously. "Thinking the unthinkable" or "bold new initiatives" usually means some way of eroding the welfare state still further.

To some degree, this is due to the perception that Labour lost elections in the 1980s through being too left-wing - though it's arguable that they lost the elections through political ineptness and being too preoccupied with internal party infighting. In any case, the political scene has changed quite a bit since then.

As you imply, the post-Thatcherite managerialism-cum-privatization culture seems much more pronounced in England than in other parts of the UK. The Welsh have on the whole been much more sensible both about health and education.
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