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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:45 AM
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25. It's at the original link
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 09:49 AM by seemslikeadream
or here, takes you to it

http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2007/08/of-abortio...

Of Abortion, and Women as the Ultimate Source of Evil
There are a great many aspects of today's world that are variously horrifying, ghastly, destructive and appalling -- and among the very worst is an idea that appears to be rapidly gaining support: the noxious notion that all questions relating to abortion rights should be returned to the states. For many reasons, only a few of which are discussed below, this idea is completely incoherent as a matter of political theory, and it undercuts any defense of individual rights on the most fundamental level. If you give a damn at all about the liberty of a single human being, you should oppose all such attempts to your last breath.

The human being to which I refer is not the developing fetus, but the woman who carries the child. I well understand that many people believe that the fetus is a human being long before birth, with all the rights that attend to that designation. In the political context, I consider all such beliefs irrelevant, no matter how sincerely and deeply held. Only one ultimate point matters here: whether you think the developing fetus is a human being or not, the fetus is contained in and supported by the woman's body. If the woman's body did not exist, neither would the fetus. Only the woman's existence makes that of the fetus possible.

The fetus only exists because of the woman's body -- not yours, not that of some possibly corrupt and stupid politician in Washington, and not the body of some possibly ignorant and venal politician in a state legislature. As I have watched this debate develop, and as I have considered with astonishment the increasingly byzantine efforts to " draw lines" about the point of viability, the time at which a full set of rights attaches to the fetus, and all the rest, I have become increasingly convinced that the right of the woman to control her own body when she is pregnant must be absolute up to the point of birth. All the attempts to craft legislation circumscribing that right prior to birth quickly become enmeshed in what are finally subjective claims that can be disputed into eternity, and impossible of proof in one direction or another.

Certainly, the woman's right to an abortion must be absolute in the first and second trimesters of pregnancy. And even in the third trimester, up to the time of birth, that right must be absolute, and the decision must be that of the woman in consultation with those medical personnel she chooses. Yes, a decision to abort late in pregnancy may be agonizingly difficult, just as it may be at an earlier time -- but whatever agony is involved is that of the woman, not a politician or bureaucrat who is unjustly empowered to make decisions that affect someone else on the most profound level. The responsibility and the consequences are the woman's, and no one else's. The choice is also hers, and no one else's.
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  -This will be my last post in the foreseeable future about the coming attack on Iran seemslikeadream  Aug-16-07 04:27 PM   #0 
  - Arthur Silber  seemslikeadream   Aug-16-07 04:32 PM   #1 
  - Thanks for posting.  FitzmasAgain   Aug-16-07 04:51 PM   #2 
  - Arthur is brilliant  librechik   Aug-16-07 05:12 PM   #4 
  - echoing thanks for the link to Arthur Silber....  mike_c   Aug-17-07 01:32 AM   #16 
  - Link Please? Of Abortion, and Women as the Ultimate Source of Evil.  SharonAnn   Aug-17-07 09:36 AM   #24 
     - It's at the original link  seemslikeadream   Aug-17-07 09:45 AM   #25 
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  - My spouse still contends that "they won't be stupid enough to  tnlefty   Aug-16-07 05:23 PM   #5 
  - K&R!!! more from your link  slipslidingaway   Aug-16-07 05:28 PM   #6 
  - Lies, War, and Empire Dr. Michael Parenti  seemslikeadream   Aug-16-07 05:28 PM   #7 
  - thankyou, seemslikeadream....  adsosletter   Aug-17-07 02:05 AM   #17 
     - Ditto and let us not ever forget all her work in the dungeon.  hang a left   Aug-17-07 02:44 AM   #19 
        - you know I am very worried about you  seemslikeadream   Aug-17-07 02:48 AM   #20 
           - Thank you so much  hang a left   Aug-17-07 03:56 AM   #21 
  - That's for posting that. I haven't read him yet!  Joanne98   Aug-16-07 05:31 PM   #8 
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  - I hear you, sicksicksick_N_tired. I hope we all live to see the day these ba$tard$ meet justice.  seafan   Aug-16-07 06:13 PM   #13 
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  - Thanks very much for the info  debbierlus   Aug-17-07 11:15 AM   #29 
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