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66. R u playing the "last word" game?!1 n/t
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  -What I find amusing about people who state they want a draft is... Javaman  Aug-13-07 02:43 PM   #0 
  - Maybe because those who support the draft were drafted the last time it was around?  sinkingfeeling   Aug-13-07 02:45 PM   #1 
  - Delet  Wilber_Stool   Aug-13-07 02:50 PM   #9 
  - So you are all for supporting a draft of young people for a war based on lies? nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:51 PM   #12 
  - And it was such a great experience for them they feel like they'd  Telly Savalas   Aug-13-07 09:24 PM   #68 
  - False.  BlooInBloo   Aug-13-07 02:46 PM   #2 
  - do you care to support your argument? or do you just like throwing BS around? nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:47 PM   #5 
     - It wasn't an argument it was a statement. I am a counterexample. End of story.  BlooInBloo   Aug-13-07 02:51 PM   #11 
     - So then you state a negative with no supporting argument.  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:52 PM   #13 
        - I wouldn't be a counterexample if I weren't. Sheesh.  BlooInBloo   Aug-13-07 02:56 PM   #16 
           - so then why don't you enlist? and beat the draft? nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:57 PM   #18 
              - Hence your OP statement is simply false.  BlooInBloo   Aug-13-07 03:06 PM   #22 
              - are you of a draftable age? nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:09 PM   #26 
              - Support for a draft does not entail support for the war. It would actually likely lead to the war's  AnotherGreenWorld   Aug-13-07 03:12 PM   #27 
              - As other posters have stated in other threads, please give me an example from  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:13 PM   #30 
                 - Vietnam  AnotherGreenWorld   Aug-13-07 04:05 PM   #53 
                    - nope wrong.  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:06 PM   #55 
                       - 1975.  AnotherGreenWorld   Aug-13-07 04:10 PM   #58 
                       - Read your history.  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:26 PM   #60 
                       - Beg to disagree. The 'Nam war was hugely popular in the early  flamin lib   Aug-13-07 05:48 PM   #65 
                          - "Don't need to read no stinkin' history . . . "  Javaman   Aug-14-07 08:27 AM   #82 
                             - Actually you are wrong  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 11:01 AM   #91 
                             - It's a waste of time and effort ...  TahitiNut   Aug-14-07 11:15 AM   #98 
                                - And it is also easier to make up shit up  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 11:19 AM   #100 
                                   - Frankly, I don't care what you think...  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:20 AM   #125 
                             - Look, I lived that war. Don't try to tell me about some freaking book.  flamin lib   Aug-14-07 11:52 AM   #107 
                                - They why don't you?  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:22 AM   #126 
                       - Nice myth, but not accurate.  uppityperson   Aug-13-07 09:22 PM   #67 
                       - The draft was only one factor that brought Viet Nam to an end & a small enough one at that.  Pyrzqxgl   Aug-14-07 01:53 PM   #124 
                       - The war got large in 65. The draft was already active at the time.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-13-07 10:39 PM   #69 
                          - Although the Viet Nam War did end in 1975  Art_from_Ark   Aug-13-07 11:41 PM   #76 
              - weak logic  wtmusic   Aug-13-07 03:12 PM   #28 
                 - My logic is only as weak as the information given.  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:14 PM   #32 
     - I will.  Wilber_Stool   Aug-13-07 02:54 PM   #15 
        - So you are all for supporting a draft of young people for a war based on lies? nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:56 PM   #17 
           - Of course not. Can you argue against the need  Wilber_Stool   Aug-13-07 03:07 PM   #25 
           - That would be nice if everyone was honest but we don't live in that reality...  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:12 PM   #29 
           - My fiance is from a wealthy German family.  tabasco   Aug-13-07 03:31 PM   #40 
              - sure it is, but we also aren't Germany and don't have a conscription army. nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:36 PM   #41 
                 - You said:  tabasco   Aug-13-07 03:52 PM   #48 
                    - Try selling to the American public and I will bet you people here  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:01 PM   #50 
                    - The rich love the volunteer military.  tabasco   Aug-13-07 04:21 PM   #59 
                    - I'll add Israel to that list  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 11:20 AM   #101 
           - The volunteer force was meeting well the need for a standing army.  pnwmom   Aug-15-07 09:40 AM   #137 
           - i think on DU the support for a draft is not to kill your children  LanternWaste   Aug-13-07 03:17 PM   #34 
              - Discussing the draft is one thing having a draft is an entirely different matter...  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:27 PM   #38 
              - I can accept your premise  chefgirl   Aug-13-07 11:50 PM   #77 
              - Getting a draft bill that will by design lose,  LanternWaste   Aug-14-07 11:15 AM   #99 
                 - I will add someting else  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 11:24 AM   #102 
                 - Thats rich  chefgirl   Aug-14-07 12:06 PM   #111 
                    - We need a dialogue on national service  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 12:11 PM   #114 
                    - Possibly  chefgirl   Aug-14-07 12:23 PM   #116 
                    - The conversation on service has to happen  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 12:42 PM   #120 
                       - Why am I not surprised?  chefgirl   Aug-14-07 12:58 PM   #121 
                          - I know quite a bit of the bush administration  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 01:11 PM   #122 
                    - While we're at it, should we have a discussion on slavery?  pnwmom   Aug-15-07 09:43 AM   #138 
                    - Calling for a debate on the draft is not calling for a draft...  LanternWaste   Aug-14-07 12:27 PM   #117 
                       - Congressional debate? At what risk?  chefgirl   Aug-14-07 12:40 PM   #119 
              - I will agree with you to an extent...  Javaman   Aug-14-07 08:30 AM   #83 
  - In all fairness  endarkenment   Aug-13-07 02:47 PM   #3 
  - why yes of course I am a movie star with a 12 figure contract and I post on DU! LOLOLOL nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:50 PM   #8 
  - Not true...  AnotherGreenWorld   Aug-13-07 02:47 PM   #4 
  - And as I said above to someone else, do you care to support your arguement? nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:48 PM   #7 
     - do you care to support yours?  sniffa   Aug-14-07 11:01 AM   #90 
        - My experience in my life has been just that..  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:33 AM   #129 
  - I was drafted.  flamin lib   Aug-13-07 02:48 PM   #6 
  - Agree. I was not drafted, but only because I drew a high number.  NCevilDUer   Aug-13-07 03:06 PM   #23 
  - It's not as simple as cause->effect.  TahitiNut   Aug-13-07 03:25 PM   #36 
  - Good article but I think Lute is serious  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 11:27 AM   #104 
     - I tend to think that either of two conditions exist.  TahitiNut   Aug-14-07 11:42 AM   #106 
        - I agree, few see what is truly going on  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 01:16 PM   #123 
  - People were aware and out in the streets protesting in Vietnam and yet  pnwmom   Aug-15-07 09:46 AM   #141 
  - I just turned 24, I dont want a draft, but believe it would bring about a revolution in this country  bamacrat   Aug-13-07 02:50 PM   #10 
  - She obviously loves you, but sadly it won't get you out of a draft only a delay...  Javaman   Aug-13-07 02:53 PM   #14 
  - Heres hoping it won't come to that.  bamacrat   Aug-13-07 03:07 PM   #24 
     - Cheers! nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:14 PM   #33 
  - When I got my draft letter there were a bunch of people telling me to go to Canada.  Sapere aude   Aug-13-07 02:58 PM   #19 
     - Here here. :) nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:00 PM   #20 
     - I know what you mean. My letter came two weeks after I married  flamin lib   Aug-13-07 03:46 PM   #45 
  - I volunteered in 1967. n/t  UTUSN   Aug-13-07 03:05 PM   #21 
  - Do you support a draft? nt  wtmusic   Aug-13-07 03:14 PM   #31 
     - Yes. That's why I chimed in. It's equality instead of just the poor & ethnic. And it will  UTUSN   Aug-13-07 03:23 PM   #35 
        - so your argument is: if there is a draft, people will protest.  Javaman   Aug-13-07 03:29 PM   #39 
           - The protest is one consequence that will contribute to stopping the war earlier  UTUSN   Aug-13-07 03:40 PM   #43 
              - I never said volunteers should die, but then again they are volunteering  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:03 PM   #51 
                 - R u playing the "last word" game?!1 n/t  UTUSN   Aug-13-07 09:18 PM   #66 
                    - fine. If you have to resort to childrens games to make your point, knock yourself out.  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:24 AM   #128 
  - yes  libodem   Aug-13-07 03:26 PM   #37 
  - I'm 23 and I don't support the draft  Aptastik   Aug-13-07 03:37 PM   #42 
  - I understand your point, but...  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:05 PM   #52 
     - I should have rephrased that  Aptastik   Aug-13-07 04:27 PM   #61 
        - Isn't it sad that if you stand by your principles in this country  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:31 PM   #62 
  - What I find amusing about people who oppose the draft is...  Done   Aug-13-07 03:42 PM   #44 
  - I'm not of draftable age, I'm 44 and I'm against it. funny how that works, huh? nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:05 PM   #54 
  - I'm 47, I will only support the draft if...  Done   Aug-13-07 05:03 PM   #64 
     - Funny some of us served,  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-13-07 10:53 PM   #72 
     - When congress declares war, draft eligibility is 48. so you would go to :)  Javaman   Aug-13-07 11:23 PM   #74 
  - OR They HAVE KIDS of Draftable Age.  Megahurtz   Aug-15-07 08:12 PM   #145 
  - I'm not of draftable age and I oppose it vehemently.  HughBeaumont   Aug-13-07 03:48 PM   #46 
  - Thanks :) nt  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:07 PM   #56 
  - I will not serve if drafted.  Exiled in America   Aug-13-07 03:49 PM   #47 
  - thank you! :)  Javaman   Aug-13-07 04:08 PM   #57 
  - Mention draft and every white republican in the US  sallyseven   Aug-13-07 03:58 PM   #49 
  - You're barking up the wrong tree here.....  AnneD   Aug-13-07 04:51 PM   #63 
  - 2 years working retail would do that. n/t  Lilith Velkor   Aug-13-07 11:10 PM   #73 
     - I've worked in retail.....  AnneD   Aug-14-07 08:19 AM   #81 
        - OK, so making starving people pray for food - or shooting them - protects democracy.  Lilith Velkor   Aug-14-07 09:23 AM   #86 
           - OK...  AnneD   Aug-14-07 10:56 AM   #88 
           - Who are you to pronounce my soul 'stunted'?  Lilith Velkor   Aug-14-07 12:15 PM   #115 
           - Then do the Peace Corp  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 11:03 AM   #92 
              - Fire/emergency service draft is a good idea  Lilith Velkor   Aug-14-07 12:03 PM   #110 
                 - Police, you have reserves all over the country  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 12:06 PM   #112 
  - Wait for it Java  shadowknows69   Aug-13-07 10:49 PM   #70 
  - Oh I know they will.  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:36 AM   #131 
  - Yes. There are people here who will  NYC Liberal   Aug-13-07 10:50 PM   #71 
  - It really is...  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:37 AM   #133 
  - even the neocons that i ask...nicely,,if they favor a draft  w8liftinglady   Aug-13-07 11:26 PM   #75 
  - I have my son's pic in a yellow ribbon on the side of my car.  w8liftinglady   Aug-14-07 12:10 AM   #78 
  - That is silly. War is fake if you don't have a stake.  sampsonblk   Aug-14-07 12:36 AM   #79 
  - Catchy phrase....  AnneD   Aug-14-07 08:32 AM   #84 
  - Sadly, it's very real to the people who lose loved ones daily.  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:40 AM   #136 
  - are you of a draftable age? nt  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:39 AM   #135 
  - We don't need a draft.  MiltonF   Aug-14-07 12:47 AM   #80 
  - And those people who are in favor of a draft are using troops for political purposes  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-14-07 08:32 AM   #85 
  - What I find amusing is  Jed Dilligan   Aug-14-07 09:30 AM   #87 
  - yep, that's aLL draft supporters. every singLe one.  sniffa   Aug-14-07 10:58 AM   #89 
  - It's still 18-26.  TahitiNut   Aug-14-07 11:06 AM   #93 
     - sarcasm smiLies are for the weak  sniffa   Aug-14-07 11:11 AM   #95 
  - most of them are, it seems. What I find especailly hilarious  ComerPerro   Aug-14-07 11:10 AM   #94 
  - People often seem more ENVIOUS of the privileged escaping the draft than disgusted with them.  TahitiNut   Aug-14-07 11:26 AM   #103 
     - I don't know if its envy that is causing the lack of complete outrage  ComerPerro   Aug-14-07 11:30 AM   #105 
  - I forgot to tell you this, but I have been in favor of one for  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 11:14 AM   #96 
  - Isn't it funny how  MH1   Aug-14-07 11:53 AM   #108 
     - Hey if they told me right now  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-14-07 12:09 PM   #113 
     - And that is why we have an all volunteer army..  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:44 AM   #139 
  - It's Not Their Age I Find Relevant. It's Their Blind Sighted Ignorance That Concerns Me.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-14-07 11:14 AM   #97 
  - A draft would create a massive military,  ronnie624   Aug-14-07 11:58 AM   #109 
  - Completely agree. nt  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:44 AM   #140 
  - A draft will kill off this madness faster than anything else.  mmonk   Aug-14-07 12:39 PM   #118 
  - BS. It did not work in the past...and frankly, the admin does not care about those sheep  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-15-07 09:23 AM   #127 
  - You are free to your opinion but it is an opinion as mine is.  mmonk   Aug-15-07 09:38 AM   #134 
     - You are using the troops to further your agenda just as the admin is.  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-15-07 07:10 PM   #143 
        - WELL SAID!!!  Megahurtz   Aug-15-07 08:43 PM   #147 
        - I have no agenda other than stopping the war  mmonk   Aug-16-07 01:03 PM   #148 
  - You Wish.  Megahurtz   Aug-15-07 08:41 PM   #146 
  - I oppose a draft.  LWolf   Aug-15-07 09:34 AM   #130 
  - I think perhaps the word amusing...  Javaman   Aug-15-07 09:46 AM   #142 
  - I'm of draftable age, and the idea has merits. Unfortunately, it's not practical  jpgray   Aug-15-07 09:37 AM   #132 
  - OR they don't have any kids of Draft age.  Megahurtz   Aug-15-07 07:59 PM   #144 
 

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