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Mon Aug-13-07 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 39. so your argument is: if there is a draft, people will protest. |
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what if the people who get killed as a result of the draft?
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| -What I find amusing about people who state they want a draft is... |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:43 PM |
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Maybe because those who support the draft were drafted the last time it was around? |
sinkingfeeling |
Aug-13-07 02:45 PM |
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Delet |
Wilber_Stool |
Aug-13-07 02:50 PM |
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So you are all for supporting a draft of young people for a war based on lies? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:51 PM |
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And it was such a great experience for them they feel like they'd |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-13-07 09:24 PM |
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False. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-13-07 02:46 PM |
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do you care to support your argument? or do you just like throwing BS around? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:47 PM |
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It wasn't an argument it was a statement. I am a counterexample. End of story. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-13-07 02:51 PM |
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So then you state a negative with no supporting argument. |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:52 PM |
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I wouldn't be a counterexample if I weren't. Sheesh. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-13-07 02:56 PM |
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so then why don't you enlist? and beat the draft? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:57 PM |
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Hence your OP statement is simply false. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-13-07 03:06 PM |
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are you of a draftable age? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:09 PM |
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Support for a draft does not entail support for the war. It would actually likely lead to the war's |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-13-07 03:12 PM |
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As other posters have stated in other threads, please give me an example from |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:13 PM |
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Vietnam |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-13-07 04:05 PM |
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nope wrong. |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:06 PM |
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1975. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-13-07 04:10 PM |
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Read your history. |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:26 PM |
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Beg to disagree. The 'Nam war was hugely popular in the early |
flamin lib |
Aug-13-07 05:48 PM |
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"Don't need to read no stinkin' history . . . " |
Javaman |
Aug-14-07 08:27 AM |
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Actually you are wrong |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 11:01 AM |
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It's a waste of time and effort ... |
TahitiNut |
Aug-14-07 11:15 AM |
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And it is also easier to make up shit up |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 11:19 AM |
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Frankly, I don't care what you think... |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:20 AM |
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Look, I lived that war. Don't try to tell me about some freaking book. |
flamin lib |
Aug-14-07 11:52 AM |
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They why don't you? |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:22 AM |
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Nice myth, but not accurate. |
uppityperson |
Aug-13-07 09:22 PM |
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The draft was only one factor that brought Viet Nam to an end & a small enough one at that. |
Pyrzqxgl |
Aug-14-07 01:53 PM |
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The war got large in 65. The draft was already active at the time. |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-13-07 10:39 PM |
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Although the Viet Nam War did end in 1975 |
Art_from_Ark |
Aug-13-07 11:41 PM |
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weak logic |
wtmusic |
Aug-13-07 03:12 PM |
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My logic is only as weak as the information given. |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:14 PM |
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I will. |
Wilber_Stool |
Aug-13-07 02:54 PM |
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So you are all for supporting a draft of young people for a war based on lies? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:56 PM |
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Of course not. Can you argue against the need |
Wilber_Stool |
Aug-13-07 03:07 PM |
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That would be nice if everyone was honest but we don't live in that reality... |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:12 PM |
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My fiance is from a wealthy German family. |
tabasco |
Aug-13-07 03:31 PM |
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sure it is, but we also aren't Germany and don't have a conscription army. nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:36 PM |
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You said: |
tabasco |
Aug-13-07 03:52 PM |
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Try selling to the American public and I will bet you people here |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:01 PM |
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The rich love the volunteer military. |
tabasco |
Aug-13-07 04:21 PM |
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I'll add Israel to that list |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 11:20 AM |
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The volunteer force was meeting well the need for a standing army. |
pnwmom |
Aug-15-07 09:40 AM |
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i think on DU the support for a draft is not to kill your children |
LanternWaste |
Aug-13-07 03:17 PM |
#34 |
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Discussing the draft is one thing having a draft is an entirely different matter... |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:27 PM |
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I can accept your premise |
chefgirl |
Aug-13-07 11:50 PM |
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Getting a draft bill that will by design lose, |
LanternWaste |
Aug-14-07 11:15 AM |
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I will add someting else |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 11:24 AM |
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Thats rich |
chefgirl |
Aug-14-07 12:06 PM |
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We need a dialogue on national service |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 12:11 PM |
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Possibly |
chefgirl |
Aug-14-07 12:23 PM |
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The conversation on service has to happen |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 12:42 PM |
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Why am I not surprised? |
chefgirl |
Aug-14-07 12:58 PM |
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I know quite a bit of the bush administration |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 01:11 PM |
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While we're at it, should we have a discussion on slavery? |
pnwmom |
Aug-15-07 09:43 AM |
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Calling for a debate on the draft is not calling for a draft... |
LanternWaste |
Aug-14-07 12:27 PM |
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Congressional debate? At what risk? |
chefgirl |
Aug-14-07 12:40 PM |
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I will agree with you to an extent... |
Javaman |
Aug-14-07 08:30 AM |
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In all fairness |
endarkenment |
Aug-13-07 02:47 PM |
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why yes of course I am a movie star with a 12 figure contract and I post on DU! LOLOLOL nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:50 PM |
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Not true... |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-13-07 02:47 PM |
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And as I said above to someone else, do you care to support your arguement? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:48 PM |
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do you care to support yours? |
sniffa |
Aug-14-07 11:01 AM |
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My experience in my life has been just that.. |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:33 AM |
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I was drafted. |
flamin lib |
Aug-13-07 02:48 PM |
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Agree. I was not drafted, but only because I drew a high number. |
NCevilDUer |
Aug-13-07 03:06 PM |
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It's not as simple as cause->effect. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-13-07 03:25 PM |
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Good article but I think Lute is serious |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 11:27 AM |
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I tend to think that either of two conditions exist. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-14-07 11:42 AM |
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I agree, few see what is truly going on |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 01:16 PM |
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People were aware and out in the streets protesting in Vietnam and yet |
pnwmom |
Aug-15-07 09:46 AM |
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I just turned 24, I dont want a draft, but believe it would bring about a revolution in this country |
bamacrat |
Aug-13-07 02:50 PM |
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She obviously loves you, but sadly it won't get you out of a draft only a delay... |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 02:53 PM |
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Heres hoping it won't come to that. |
bamacrat |
Aug-13-07 03:07 PM |
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Cheers! nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:14 PM |
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When I got my draft letter there were a bunch of people telling me to go to Canada. |
Sapere aude |
Aug-13-07 02:58 PM |
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Here here. :) nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:00 PM |
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I know what you mean. My letter came two weeks after I married |
flamin lib |
Aug-13-07 03:46 PM |
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I volunteered in 1967. n/t |
UTUSN |
Aug-13-07 03:05 PM |
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Do you support a draft? nt |
wtmusic |
Aug-13-07 03:14 PM |
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Yes. That's why I chimed in. It's equality instead of just the poor & ethnic. And it will |
UTUSN |
Aug-13-07 03:23 PM |
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so your argument is: if there is a draft, people will protest. |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 03:29 PM |
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The protest is one consequence that will contribute to stopping the war earlier |
UTUSN |
Aug-13-07 03:40 PM |
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I never said volunteers should die, but then again they are volunteering |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:03 PM |
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R u playing the "last word" game?!1 n/t |
UTUSN |
Aug-13-07 09:18 PM |
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fine. If you have to resort to childrens games to make your point, knock yourself out. |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:24 AM |
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yes |
libodem |
Aug-13-07 03:26 PM |
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I'm 23 and I don't support the draft |
Aptastik |
Aug-13-07 03:37 PM |
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I understand your point, but... |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:05 PM |
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I should have rephrased that |
Aptastik |
Aug-13-07 04:27 PM |
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Isn't it sad that if you stand by your principles in this country |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:31 PM |
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What I find amusing about people who oppose the draft is... |
Done |
Aug-13-07 03:42 PM |
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I'm not of draftable age, I'm 44 and I'm against it. funny how that works, huh? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:05 PM |
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I'm 47, I will only support the draft if... |
Done |
Aug-13-07 05:03 PM |
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Funny some of us served, |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-13-07 10:53 PM |
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When congress declares war, draft eligibility is 48. so you would go to :) |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 11:23 PM |
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OR They HAVE KIDS of Draftable Age. |
Megahurtz |
Aug-15-07 08:12 PM |
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I'm not of draftable age and I oppose it vehemently. |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-13-07 03:48 PM |
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Thanks :) nt |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:07 PM |
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I will not serve if drafted. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-13-07 03:49 PM |
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thank you! :) |
Javaman |
Aug-13-07 04:08 PM |
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Mention draft and every white republican in the US |
sallyseven |
Aug-13-07 03:58 PM |
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You're barking up the wrong tree here..... |
AnneD |
Aug-13-07 04:51 PM |
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2 years working retail would do that. n/t |
Lilith Velkor |
Aug-13-07 11:10 PM |
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I've worked in retail..... |
AnneD |
Aug-14-07 08:19 AM |
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OK, so making starving people pray for food - or shooting them - protects democracy. |
Lilith Velkor |
Aug-14-07 09:23 AM |
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OK... |
AnneD |
Aug-14-07 10:56 AM |
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Who are you to pronounce my soul 'stunted'? |
Lilith Velkor |
Aug-14-07 12:15 PM |
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Then do the Peace Corp |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 11:03 AM |
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Fire/emergency service draft is a good idea |
Lilith Velkor |
Aug-14-07 12:03 PM |
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Police, you have reserves all over the country |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 12:06 PM |
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Wait for it Java |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-13-07 10:49 PM |
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Oh I know they will. |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:36 AM |
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Yes. There are people here who will |
NYC Liberal |
Aug-13-07 10:50 PM |
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It really is... |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:37 AM |
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even the neocons that i ask...nicely,,if they favor a draft |
w8liftinglady |
Aug-13-07 11:26 PM |
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I have my son's pic in a yellow ribbon on the side of my car. |
w8liftinglady |
Aug-14-07 12:10 AM |
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That is silly. War is fake if you don't have a stake. |
sampsonblk |
Aug-14-07 12:36 AM |
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Catchy phrase.... |
AnneD |
Aug-14-07 08:32 AM |
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Sadly, it's very real to the people who lose loved ones daily. |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:40 AM |
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are you of a draftable age? nt |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:39 AM |
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We don't need a draft. |
MiltonF |
Aug-14-07 12:47 AM |
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And those people who are in favor of a draft are using troops for political purposes |
Evergreen Emerald |
Aug-14-07 08:32 AM |
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What I find amusing is |
Jed Dilligan |
Aug-14-07 09:30 AM |
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yep, that's aLL draft supporters. every singLe one. |
sniffa |
Aug-14-07 10:58 AM |
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It's still 18-26. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-14-07 11:06 AM |
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sarcasm smiLies are for the weak |
sniffa |
Aug-14-07 11:11 AM |
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most of them are, it seems. What I find especailly hilarious |
ComerPerro |
Aug-14-07 11:10 AM |
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People often seem more ENVIOUS of the privileged escaping the draft than disgusted with them. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-14-07 11:26 AM |
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I don't know if its envy that is causing the lack of complete outrage |
ComerPerro |
Aug-14-07 11:30 AM |
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I forgot to tell you this, but I have been in favor of one for |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 11:14 AM |
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Isn't it funny how |
MH1 |
Aug-14-07 11:53 AM |
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Hey if they told me right now |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-14-07 12:09 PM |
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And that is why we have an all volunteer army.. |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:44 AM |
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It's Not Their Age I Find Relevant. It's Their Blind Sighted Ignorance That Concerns Me. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-14-07 11:14 AM |
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A draft would create a massive military, |
ronnie624 |
Aug-14-07 11:58 AM |
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Completely agree. nt |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:44 AM |
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A draft will kill off this madness faster than anything else. |
mmonk |
Aug-14-07 12:39 PM |
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BS. It did not work in the past...and frankly, the admin does not care about those sheep |
Evergreen Emerald |
Aug-15-07 09:23 AM |
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You are free to your opinion but it is an opinion as mine is. |
mmonk |
Aug-15-07 09:38 AM |
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You are using the troops to further your agenda just as the admin is. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Aug-15-07 07:10 PM |
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WELL SAID!!! |
Megahurtz |
Aug-15-07 08:43 PM |
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I have no agenda other than stopping the war |
mmonk |
Aug-16-07 01:03 PM |
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You Wish. |
Megahurtz |
Aug-15-07 08:41 PM |
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I oppose a draft. |
LWolf |
Aug-15-07 09:34 AM |
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I think perhaps the word amusing... |
Javaman |
Aug-15-07 09:46 AM |
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I'm of draftable age, and the idea has merits. Unfortunately, it's not practical |
jpgray |
Aug-15-07 09:37 AM |
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OR they don't have any kids of Draft age. |
Megahurtz |
Aug-15-07 07:59 PM |
#144 |
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