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Fri Aug-10-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #66 |
| 74. essentialism at its worst |
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Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 10:12 AM by Anais_98
"And by gender, I mean what gender you actually innately are."
So we are either men or women inside. Gay or Straight. Black and white> no gray, no overlap. Very simple and straight forward. Thanks for explaining that. Personally I believe there is a continuum of sexuality, gender, political leanings etc> so few people are 100% "male", 100% straight or 100% right wing. How can you say you rhat you respect my feelings and then call its crap in the same breathe.
And i did not catch the gay bug. I learnt to be more accepting, more tolerant, less homophobic and more open-minded.
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| -Bill Richardson on homosexuality : "It's a choice." |
Bluebear |
Aug-10-07 12:53 AM |
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OUCH! |
KitchenWitch |
Aug-10-07 12:55 AM |
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He flubbed that one up with aplomb..... |
marmar |
Aug-10-07 12:55 AM |
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Etheridge smiley: |
Bluebear |
Aug-10-07 12:56 AM |
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Following in Gore Vidal's footsteps? |
marshall |
Aug-10-07 09:20 AM |
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k&r...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-10-07 12:56 AM |
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Buh bye, Bill .. |
Hieronymus |
Aug-10-07 12:57 AM |
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voting for him is a choice too, something I don't plan to do, the freak. |
roguevalley |
Aug-10-07 02:20 PM |
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I Will Say This |
Madspirit |
Aug-10-07 12:59 AM |
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Can't blame you there... If I were a woman, so would I!!! |
Labors of Hercules |
Aug-10-07 10:48 AM |
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oh my....oh my....oh my gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Duppers |
Aug-10-07 01:02 AM |
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So is voting for Bill Richardson |
jgraz |
Aug-10-07 01:04 AM |
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He didn't go over too well tonight! |
Pushed To The Left |
Aug-10-07 01:04 AM |
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He's been very weak in pratically every debate I've seen |
BlueStater |
Aug-10-07 01:06 AM |
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No more ignorant politicians. |
Double T |
Aug-10-07 01:08 AM |
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Poor dumbass. And poor us. |
swag |
Aug-10-07 01:09 AM |
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Shows what an idiot he is....repeating the religious mantra |
Stargazer99 |
Aug-10-07 01:18 AM |
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Yeah Bill, it's all about how one chooses to use one's body. |
Dangerously Amused |
Aug-10-07 01:29 AM |
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"He's been very weak in pratically every debate I've seen." |
Disturbed |
Aug-10-07 01:36 AM |
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Oh, don't do that to us! (Writing from Santa Fe) nt |
puebloknot |
Aug-10-07 01:43 AM |
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Bill's on my shit list after allowing electronic voting machines in New Mexico... |
Alexander |
Aug-10-07 01:36 AM |
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And he blocked the recount in NM in '04 when all kinds of votes disappeared |
LibInTexas |
Aug-10-07 06:47 AM |
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Yes. We can't trust Bill Richardson with our right to vote. |
Alexander |
Aug-10-07 11:18 AM |
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Homosexuality, a choice? |
bumblebee1 |
Aug-10-07 01:49 AM |
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Pffffft! |
avrdream |
Aug-10-07 02:55 AM |
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Like this cowboy? |
Tesha |
Aug-10-07 06:15 AM |
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But, really.. truly.. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 02:13 AM |
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Once and for all: IT IS NOT A CHOICE |
downstairsparts |
Aug-10-07 02:34 AM |
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Probably the same reason that people seem totally unable to read what I wrote there |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 11:33 AM |
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Yes I read exactly what you wrote and that's why I responded |
downstairsparts |
Aug-10-07 01:34 PM |
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Okay, you read what I wrote, and then totally ignored it. |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 02:39 PM |
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Who's the one freaking out here? |
downstairsparts |
Aug-10-07 03:08 PM |
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Me: "blah blah blah". You: "Stop saying flarn flarn flarn" |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 03:49 PM |
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oh you're very clever, id |
downstairsparts |
Aug-11-07 05:53 AM |
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Boy, this sure is a dumb argument. Is it over? /nt |
mwb970 |
Aug-11-07 06:40 AM |
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Why it is hard to grasp that it doesn't matter? |
treestar |
Aug-11-07 05:30 PM |
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I'm gay and I also say it doesn't matter what causes homosexuality. |
David__77 |
Aug-10-07 03:28 AM |
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Thanks, impeachdubya and David_77 |
shimmergal |
Aug-10-07 06:37 AM |
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I am straight and that makes complete sense to me n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-10-07 10:35 AM |
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Because, if it's a "choice", then prejudice against it is legitimized. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-10-07 08:10 AM |
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I Completely Agree With Katherine Brengle. |
Toasterlad |
Aug-10-07 09:17 AM |
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Like I said, if you read the entirety of my post, when you cut to the chase, the people who it |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 11:42 AM |
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It's not legitimized to sensible people |
treestar |
Aug-11-07 05:33 PM |
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It's a big fucking difference |
ruggerson |
Aug-10-07 08:24 AM |
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Okay, I'm glad you think my support is "noxious" and "backhanded". |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 11:32 AM |
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I wouldn't mind if he simply said "It doesn't matter if it's a choice..." for the |
mondo joe |
Aug-10-07 09:36 AM |
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Here's what difference it makes. It allows the right wing homophobes |
cboy4 |
Aug-10-07 10:45 AM |
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I'm not saying Richardson handled it well, at all. |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 11:45 AM |
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Exactly |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 12:28 PM |
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So it's okay to discriminate against you on the basis of your car and clothes. Right? |
impeachdubya |
Aug-10-07 03:50 PM |
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Oh my!! Impeachdubya, I think I understand what you are trying to say.. |
truth2power |
Aug-11-07 02:11 PM |
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Thank you! One, I'm not defending Richardson's answer, and Two, I'm not saying it IS a "choice". |
impeachdubya |
Aug-11-07 05:25 PM |
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Extreme Christian wackos NEED for it to be a choice. |
mwb970 |
Aug-11-07 06:39 AM |
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Right, because if it's not a choice then "God" made them that way. |
impeachdubya |
Aug-11-07 05:27 PM |
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These same whackos, if it were proven to be genetic |
treestar |
Aug-11-07 05:35 PM |
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Buh Bye Bill, Thanks for playing! BUH BYE! I'm not a moron, but I play one in New Mexico. |
Neshanic |
Aug-10-07 02:22 AM |
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Offensive idiot, |
seasonedblue |
Aug-10-07 02:35 AM |
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He is the quintessential politician |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-10-07 02:38 AM |
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If You Have a Choice, Doesn't That Mean You are Bi? |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-10-07 02:51 AM |
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No |
FreeState |
Aug-10-07 03:00 AM |
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not all |
Anais_98 |
Aug-10-07 04:58 AM |
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When I was in my teens I tried both. |
Disturbed |
Aug-10-07 05:16 AM |
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Yes, of course. |
xfundy |
Aug-10-07 05:19 AM |
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sarcasm detected |
Anais_98 |
Aug-10-07 05:57 AM |
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Again, you don't choose your sexual orientation, period |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 08:35 AM |
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Your comment "I've chosen to be bi" strikes me as kind of odd - |
bullwinkle428 |
Aug-10-07 08:28 AM |
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You do not choose your sexual orientation |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 08:34 AM |
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what |
Anais_98 |
Aug-10-07 09:22 AM |
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Aug-10-07 09:30 AM |
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essentialism at its worst |
Anais_98 |
Aug-10-07 10:07 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-10-07 10:09 AM |
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Whatever -- spin what I say anyway you want |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 10:10 AM |
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I see you couldn't handle the truth |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 10:20 AM |
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... |
Anais_98 |
Aug-10-07 10:25 AM |
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I never name called -- EVER |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 11:07 AM |
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really? |
Anais_98 |
Aug-11-07 12:08 AM |
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How was that name calling? It wasn't |
LostinVA |
Aug-11-07 07:09 AM |
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really? |
Anais_98 |
Aug-11-07 09:43 AM |
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You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you on the ass.. |
Madspirit |
Aug-11-07 02:16 PM |
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Not talking about you |
Anais_98 |
Aug-11-07 10:05 PM |
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Wow. Unreal. |
LostinVA |
Aug-11-07 10:09 PM |
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Sweetie, I'm Not Going to Tell You Who or What You Are. |
Toasterlad |
Aug-10-07 09:35 AM |
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Good post |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 09:37 AM |
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Sometimes I think most people are born bisexual. |
David__77 |
Aug-10-07 10:32 AM |
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BRAVO!!!! |
helderheid |
Aug-10-07 11:05 AM |
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Today's Heroes are Lost in WVA and Toasterlad!!... |
Madspirit |
Aug-11-07 02:18 PM |
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Even though I'm abusive? |
LostinVA |
Aug-11-07 10:09 PM |
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klj |
Anais_98 |
Aug-10-07 06:03 AM |
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I caught the tail end of that, and to me he came across as a well-intentioned idiot. |
IanDB1 |
Aug-10-07 06:26 AM |
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I'd agree. I'm so shocked. From that alone I'd tell him to hang it up. |
xultar |
Aug-10-07 06:47 AM |
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errr ahhhh.... hang it up Bill. |
xultar |
Aug-10-07 06:48 AM |
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i'm confilcted and confused about this |
Magic Rat |
Aug-10-07 06:49 AM |
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Sexual Arousal Is A Reflexive Response |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-10-07 07:44 AM |
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Lots of people fake it. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-10-07 08:11 AM |
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I'm straight...how am I able to masturbate? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-10-07 08:18 AM |
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I dated and had sex with men until well into my 20's |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 08:38 AM |
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How was he able to have sex with his wife? Have you heard of |
cboy4 |
Aug-10-07 10:52 AM |
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Bill Richardson? Who's he? |
progressoid |
Aug-10-07 07:39 AM |
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choice my ass |
goaman |
Aug-10-07 07:40 AM |
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Apparently Richardson issued a statement to "clarify" within minutes after the thing ended |
Harvey Korman |
Aug-10-07 07:53 AM |
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He's grasping at straws because he got caught with his hand |
cboy4 |
Aug-10-07 10:57 AM |
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I used to have him as a top choice for Sec. of State |
NewJeffCT |
Aug-10-07 07:55 AM |
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Ummm.... great |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 08:23 AM |
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whats more surprising...his view or the fact that he let it be known in public? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-10-07 08:27 AM |
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No, Bill. Voting for you is a choice. |
gatorboy |
Aug-10-07 08:29 AM |
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After this, my choice is easy |
wicket |
Aug-10-07 08:42 AM |
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Well, well |
vpilot |
Aug-10-07 08:40 AM |
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"It's a choice" "maricon"...it's not looking good for you, Bill. |
terrya |
Aug-10-07 09:13 AM |
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I MAY have thought he just fumbled -- MAYBE -- but the "maricon" cemented it for me |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 09:16 AM |
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Wow. Incredibly stupid |
turtlensue |
Aug-10-07 09:22 AM |
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When did Richardson choose to be straight? |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 09:33 AM |
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They Should Have Asked EVERYONE the "Choice" Question. |
Toasterlad |
Aug-10-07 09:26 AM |
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"they should have asked Everyone" |
indigo32 |
Aug-10-07 02:37 PM |
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Wow, so the guy fucks up the answer which is clearly inconsistent with his position, and he's done? |
The Stranger |
Aug-10-07 09:27 AM |
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How Is His Thinking Homosexuality is a Choice Inconsistent With His Position? |
Toasterlad |
Aug-10-07 09:45 AM |
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Being unprepared and uncomfortable may be forgiven, but not being bigoted. |
The Stranger |
Aug-10-07 10:09 AM |
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As a gay man and IF he's the nominee... |
terrya |
Aug-10-07 10:29 AM |
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Yes, it is too much. |
The Stranger |
Aug-10-07 11:36 AM |
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He goes to a forum sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign and flubs THAT question? SHEESH! |
dicksteele |
Aug-10-07 09:34 AM |
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My point exactly! |
turtlensue |
Aug-10-07 09:36 AM |
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Very good point |
terrya |
Aug-11-07 06:38 AM |
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He lost my second-choice vote with that one |
SharonRB |
Aug-10-07 10:09 AM |
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Well, crap. I guess I'll be voting for Edward's in the primary now. |
ceile |
Aug-10-07 10:15 AM |
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Edwards isn't really better |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 10:29 AM |
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So who is better on gay rights issues? |
David__77 |
Aug-10-07 10:39 AM |
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Yes, only Gravel & Kucinich so far consider us equal human beings |
downstairsparts |
Aug-10-07 11:38 AM |
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Read their responses to Question # 6 |
Ms. Toad |
Aug-11-07 11:11 AM |
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The one reason I think Edwards might be slightly (and I mean slightly!) |
cboy4 |
Aug-10-07 11:01 AM |
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OMG -- you're alive |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 11:05 AM |
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Really?! |
ceile |
Aug-10-07 11:41 AM |
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Yeah, I was very, very disappointed when he said that |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 12:29 PM |
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Hoo boy |
slackmaster |
Aug-10-07 10:20 AM |
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Yikes, that was stupid. |
David__77 |
Aug-10-07 10:36 AM |
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And here I was bemoaning his republican trade policies. Richardson -> Toast. nt |
ToeBot |
Aug-10-07 10:44 AM |
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No, but voting is. |
npincus |
Aug-10-07 10:45 AM |
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Yes it is a choice... |
helderheid |
Aug-10-07 10:55 AM |
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The "I misunderstood the question" makes him look exactly |
bullwinkle428 |
Aug-10-07 10:57 AM |
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Oh come on Bill. Why would anyone choose a life of persecution? |
cboy4 |
Aug-10-07 11:05 AM |
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My thoughts exactly |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 11:06 AM |
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I would expect such a statement from a 'roids enabler.... |
IndianaJones |
Aug-10-07 11:24 AM |
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LOL. Have I told you how much I like you? :) |
cboy4 |
Aug-10-07 11:37 AM |
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We are a very rare breed around here my friend... |
IndianaJones |
Aug-10-07 02:42 PM |
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It was an incredibly stupid things to say, but looks at his record: |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-10-07 11:07 AM |
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He didn't know that was a winger 'hotword' to justify persecution. |
NastyDiaper |
Aug-10-07 11:08 AM |
#104 |
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To every person who says it's a choice to be gay |
Larissa238 |
Aug-10-07 11:28 AM |
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Don't necessarily agree with you....however, homosexuality is not a choice.nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-10-07 11:35 AM |
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I've asked people both of those things before |
LostinVA |
Aug-10-07 12:30 PM |
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don't form an opinion on just one article, here's a better representation of his support |
bigtree |
Aug-10-07 11:35 AM |
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OK...he's not Evil but he is STUPID... |
Madspirit |
Aug-10-07 12:28 PM |
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It is about choice... |
thecorrection |
Aug-10-07 02:07 PM |
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IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S A CHOICE OR NOT - THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-10-07 02:40 PM |
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It matters whether people think it's a choice. |
redqueen |
Aug-10-07 02:54 PM |
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No. Sigh. The question itself embodies the presupposition that there's something wrong with it.... |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-10-07 03:01 PM |
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yeah, sheesh! |
redqueen |
Aug-10-07 03:03 PM |
#134 |
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If he hadn't already lost me by supporting forced treatment for mental illness, |
KamaAina |
Aug-10-07 02:43 PM |
#129 |
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Richardson sounds so dumb when he talks |
LordJFT |
Aug-10-07 02:50 PM |
#130 |
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Wow... what a stupid thing to say. |
redqueen |
Aug-10-07 02:52 PM |
#131 |
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Choice exists for behavior NOT orientation |
butlerd |
Aug-10-07 04:36 PM |
#138 |
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Isn't it amazing |
Gelliebeans |
Aug-11-07 02:29 AM |
#140 |
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Richardson lost my support in 20 seconds. |
mwb970 |
Aug-11-07 06:34 AM |
#142 |
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Orientation is not about just about orgasms |
Madspirit |
Aug-11-07 02:31 PM |
#152 |
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Sexuality is not a choice |
Nikia |
Aug-11-07 02:35 PM |
#153 |
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NOw, maybe some will see the sleeezy side of Richardson. |
bobbolink |
Aug-11-07 05:32 PM |
#157 |
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