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Thu Aug-09-07 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #110 |
| 113. They targeted civilians in both cities. |
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Did they not?
Did they drop the a-bombs on the military targets, i.e the barracks, shipyards and factories?
No.
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| -Nagasaki 9August 1945 A Necessary Evil |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 10:30 AM |
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Welcome to the DU Annual Nuclear Auto-Flagellation Fest, part II |
slackmaster |
Aug-09-07 10:31 AM |
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Doesn't this get old? We should just go to the archives and repost the ones from the last year and |
Sapere aude |
Aug-09-07 11:59 AM |
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K & R |
Zandor |
Aug-09-07 12:58 PM |
#109 |
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Killing to save lives! What a concept! |
Mandate My Ass |
Aug-09-07 10:32 AM |
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It sounds just like "fu*king for virginity." |
mikeytherat |
Aug-09-07 10:44 AM |
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You would have preferred the US and Soviet Union to invade Japan? |
scrinmaster |
Aug-09-07 11:15 AM |
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Yes. I would have. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-09-07 01:34 PM |
#122 |
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I think your off on the Civilian casualties. |
VTMechEngr |
Aug-09-07 03:04 PM |
#142 |
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conflict? |
catfish42 |
Aug-09-07 12:19 PM |
#95 |
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What drives you to take the time to celebrate such a thing with a DU post? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-09-07 10:32 AM |
#3 |
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Celebrate |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 10:34 AM |
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Yeah, right. Walks like a duck, quaks like a duck. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-09-07 10:42 AM |
#11 |
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Crap! Before you accuse someone of |
Kajsa |
Aug-09-07 10:52 AM |
#23 |
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Well... maybe |
qdemn7 |
Aug-09-07 10:40 AM |
#10 |
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"He might not be here today if they had." |
Bill McBlueState |
Aug-09-07 02:38 PM |
#135 |
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Agreed. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 10:32 AM |
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I'm not sure Nagasaki was necessary - we'll never know. |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 10:32 AM |
#5 |
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My firm opinion |
qdemn7 |
Aug-09-07 10:45 AM |
#16 |
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Some of us idealists still try not to become that which we hate |
meatloaf |
Aug-09-07 10:59 AM |
#28 |
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I don't think so. |
rjones2818 |
Aug-09-07 12:26 PM |
#99 |
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Personally I think the planned demonstration explosion |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-09-07 10:33 AM |
#6 |
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Yes, but that wouldn't have.... |
dicksteele |
Aug-09-07 10:53 AM |
#25 |
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I'm not so sure that panned out real well either |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-09-07 11:18 AM |
#42 |
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War Crimes are not necessary |
rudeboy666 |
Aug-09-07 10:33 AM |
#7 |
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Like the firebombing of DRESDEN, HAMBURG, TOKYO... |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 10:38 AM |
#9 |
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yes those were war crimes too. nt. |
endarkenment |
Aug-09-07 02:13 PM |
#133 |
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Dropping it in the middle of Tokyo Bay would have been even more effective.. |
The Vinyl Ripper |
Aug-09-07 10:43 AM |
#12 |
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We already burned Tokyo to the ground, killing 200,000. |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 11:03 AM |
#30 |
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I was aware of that.. |
The Vinyl Ripper |
Aug-09-07 11:12 AM |
#36 |
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Read this: |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 11:19 AM |
#43 |
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I knew all that too... |
The Vinyl Ripper |
Aug-09-07 11:52 AM |
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The Emperor KNEW after Nagasaki and Hiroshima. |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 11:57 AM |
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The Imperial Palace is over a mile from the edge of Tokyo Bay.. |
The Vinyl Ripper |
Aug-09-07 01:48 PM |
#124 |
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Data from the Nagasaki Bombing Museum: |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 02:03 PM |
#131 |
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And kept Stalin from entering Japan....Oh, wait, that was the MAIN reason... |
Junkdrawer |
Aug-09-07 10:43 AM |
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Some say it was dropped to show the Soviets that we had it, and were willing to use it on a city. |
dicksteele |
Aug-09-07 10:48 AM |
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I agree with that...n/t |
Junkdrawer |
Aug-09-07 10:49 AM |
#19 |
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More than some. |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-09-07 11:57 AM |
#77 |
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What, you're saying I'm MAINSTREAM on a divisive tinfoillish issue? |
dicksteele |
Aug-09-07 12:03 PM |
#82 |
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"Saved millions of lives."???? I don't get it. Who the hell is saying that? |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-09-07 10:45 AM |
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Back when I was in school, it had only "possibly saved" a few hundred thousand lives. |
dicksteele |
Aug-09-07 10:49 AM |
#20 |
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Well, you know how it is....we've now killed over a million in Iraq.. |
Junkdrawer |
Aug-09-07 10:53 AM |
#24 |
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I'm sorry...dropping a NUKE is NEVER "necessary", |
Desertrose |
Aug-09-07 10:47 AM |
#17 |
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If you think there were better options, please provide them. |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 10:50 AM |
#21 |
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Personally, although I know it sucks for the grunts, I'd have to do it the old fashioned way. |
meatloaf |
Aug-09-07 11:17 AM |
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Nice sentiment 62 years and and a world away from any chance... |
piedmont |
Aug-09-07 11:30 AM |
#52 |
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I'm a veteran of the first Gulf War, I ponied up when my time came even |
meatloaf |
Aug-09-07 11:39 AM |
#60 |
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Again, you have said it would be fine with you if MORE people died if it wasn't from a nuke. |
piedmont |
Aug-09-07 11:54 AM |
#72 |
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If you see death as the ulitmate evil then for you there is no honorable solution. |
meatloaf |
Aug-09-07 12:04 PM |
#83 |
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62 years and it is still killing people. |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 11:56 AM |
#74 |
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Considering that Japan had just opened negotiations with the USSR, "waiting" was one option. |
dicksteele |
Aug-09-07 12:09 PM |
#89 |
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Agreed. What was done was unexcusable. |
Xenotime |
Aug-09-07 11:01 AM |
#29 |
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In 1945 my Dad was a 19 year old |
ben_meyers |
Aug-09-07 01:49 PM |
#125 |
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Taking time to remember those killed/harmed in Nagasaki 62 yrs ago |
uppityperson |
Aug-09-07 10:52 AM |
#22 |
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BULLSHIT! |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 10:54 AM |
#26 |
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Some who disagreed: |
SOS |
Aug-09-07 10:57 AM |
#27 |
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But what do YOU believe, and why? |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 11:05 AM |
#31 |
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not really |
Bill McBlueState |
Aug-09-07 02:43 PM |
#136 |
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I suggest you read this: OPERATION OLYMPIC |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 11:15 AM |
#38 |
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Both bombings were pure evil. |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 11:07 AM |
#32 |
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On Aug 6 a kite maker from Nagasaki was visiting Hiroshima. |
alfredo |
Aug-09-07 11:09 AM |
#33 |
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I support dropping the bombs because my financee and a lot of other people |
Bitwit1234 |
Aug-09-07 11:09 AM |
#34 |
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Killed at Pearl Harbor: approximately 2,000 |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-09-07 11:16 AM |
#40 |
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It was total war. |
scrinmaster |
Aug-09-07 11:30 AM |
#50 |
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Pearl Harbor was a MILITARY target. |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 11:24 AM |
#46 |
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wrong. |
whopis01 |
Aug-09-07 12:59 PM |
#110 |
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They targeted civilians in both cities. |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 01:05 PM |
#113 |
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How would YOU feel if, say, Russia or China decided to nuke your city |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-09-07 11:12 AM |
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Iraq |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 11:20 AM |
#44 |
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What kind of bozos are in this forum anymore? n/t |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-09-07 11:14 AM |
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There seem to be two types... |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 11:21 AM |
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Alternatives |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 11:27 AM |
#47 |
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There are always alternatives, they just may ask a higher price. |
meatloaf |
Aug-09-07 11:30 AM |
#51 |
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There is the 3rd type |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 11:29 AM |
#49 |
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In other words you're one of those who don't provide alternatives |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 11:33 AM |
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Yep |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 11:45 AM |
#64 |
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Logical |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 11:35 AM |
#56 |
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Political expediency and numbers do not make the decision moral or even logical. |
meatloaf |
Aug-09-07 11:56 AM |
#73 |
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An alternative has been posted, and was suggested at the time - |
NCevilDUer |
Aug-09-07 11:41 AM |
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Oh, joy! "Now it remains an international peace park & a symbol of world harmony!" |
Hissyspit |
Aug-09-07 11:29 AM |
#48 |
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Recommend (-1 votes) |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 11:31 AM |
#53 |
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I believe you just created it. (-2 votes). n/t |
slowry |
Aug-09-07 11:33 AM |
#54 |
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(-3) n/t |
Hissyspit |
Aug-09-07 11:37 AM |
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Negative Recommend (-4 votes) (updated) |
The Stranger |
Aug-09-07 11:37 AM |
#59 |
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Positive Recommend (+69 votes) |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 12:02 PM |
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Can you prove that it did? |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 12:05 PM |
#85 |
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Strawman. |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:16 PM |
#93 |
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Prove it |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 12:29 PM |
#101 |
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That proves nothing. |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 12:31 PM |
#102 |
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If you aren't ignoring me, read this: |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:39 PM |
#106 |
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It would be best if you would go learn some real history instead of shooting your mouth off |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-09-07 11:36 AM |
#57 |
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False premise |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 11:41 AM |
#61 |
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You and your little pig friends can go play somewhere else now. n/t |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-09-07 11:43 AM |
#63 |
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I'm here - who appointed you in charge of "correct" opinions? |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 11:46 AM |
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If you can't even defend your idea with a rational argument, then fuck off. |
piedmont |
Aug-09-07 11:57 AM |
#76 |
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You are not playing well with others... |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:08 PM |
#88 |
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I Didn't Read The Book |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 11:49 AM |
#66 |
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please see my post below: The Japanese wanted to surrender... |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-09-07 12:20 PM |
#96 |
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Please read this report from the Imperial Japanese High Command |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:32 PM |
#103 |
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Read "Olympic vs Ketsu-Go" |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 11:54 AM |
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History |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 12:43 PM |
#108 |
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why was it neccessary to invade Japan??? |
LSK |
Aug-09-07 11:50 AM |
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Now you KNOW after Pearl, Guadalcanal, Iwo: that would never have flown. |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:03 PM |
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so you are saying that the American people wanted to invade? |
LSK |
Aug-09-07 12:05 PM |
#84 |
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The American People were 100% for Unconditional Surrender. |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:13 PM |
#92 |
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Yes, they wanted to totally crush Japan |
slackmaster |
Aug-09-07 01:04 PM |
#112 |
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they also wanted to totally crush Iraq until recently |
Bill McBlueState |
Aug-09-07 02:49 PM |
#139 |
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And Nanking, and the Philipines, etc. |
piedmont |
Aug-09-07 12:06 PM |
#86 |
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EXACTLY. n/t |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:25 PM |
#98 |
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Invasion |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 01:19 PM |
#118 |
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except by that time it was only occupying Japan |
LSK |
Aug-09-07 01:24 PM |
#119 |
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Occupation |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 01:47 PM |
#123 |
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Horribly sad |
LeftishBrit |
Aug-09-07 11:53 AM |
#69 |
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I agree, Leftish |
robcon |
Aug-09-07 11:57 AM |
#75 |
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They were still fanatical after both bombings. |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 12:35 PM |
#104 |
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Sorry, chum. Mass exterminations and Internet smilies don't mix. Seek help. n/t |
slowry |
Aug-09-07 11:54 AM |
#70 |
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Chum |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 12:03 PM |
#81 |
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Even If You Support The Bombing As I Nominally Do What Is There To Be Gained By Making Light Of It |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 12:07 PM |
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interesting |
Bill McBlueState |
Aug-09-07 02:50 PM |
#140 |
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"I do not know how many times I called begging that they would cut off my burned arms and legs." |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-09-07 12:09 PM |
#90 |
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hooray for saving a braziLLion Lives |
sniffa |
Aug-09-07 12:11 PM |
#91 |
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The Japanes wanted to surrender...and the United States KNEW IT. |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-09-07 12:17 PM |
#94 |
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If I am not on your IGNORE list, say so would you? |
Tyler Durden |
Aug-09-07 01:57 PM |
#130 |
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Americans are SOOOO defensive. |
Bonobo |
Aug-09-07 12:22 PM |
#97 |
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What Captain Robert Lewis pilot of the Enola Gay said... |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 12:28 PM |
#100 |
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US Terrorism: Hiroshima and Nagasaki Atomic Bombs |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 12:35 PM |
#105 |
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Nag |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 01:06 PM |
#114 |
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Somebody please tell me which millions it saved. |
Gregorian |
Aug-09-07 12:41 PM |
#107 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-09-07 01:01 PM |
#111 |
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WHY POST THIS KIND OF SHIT ON THE ANNINVERSARY OF A TRAGEDY FOR SOME? |
Bonobo |
Aug-09-07 01:09 PM |
#115 |
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flamebait. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-09-07 01:13 PM |
#116 |
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Post |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 01:15 PM |
#117 |
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Bull mother fucking shit. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-09-07 01:29 PM |
#120 |
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What |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 01:31 PM |
#121 |
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Radiation poisoning documentary footage |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 01:53 PM |
#126 |
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I couldn't disagree more. |
devilgrrl |
Aug-09-07 01:54 PM |
#127 |
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Disagree |
Parche |
Aug-09-07 02:32 PM |
#134 |
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That's very sweet of you but I still don't agree. |
devilgrrl |
Aug-09-07 02:48 PM |
#138 |
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Wow . . . . I can hardly believe this is a DU thread. |
stranger81 |
Aug-09-07 01:55 PM |
#128 |
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I'm always amazed at how long they are allowed to go on. But-- |
Exiled in America |
Aug-09-07 01:57 PM |
#129 |
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Deliberately targeting civilians is a war crime. nt. |
endarkenment |
Aug-09-07 02:12 PM |
#132 |
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and that is the crux of it |
WindRavenX |
Aug-09-07 02:46 PM |
#137 |
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Same reply I had 2 years ago |
DS1 |
Aug-09-07 02:57 PM |
#141 |
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Locking |
muriel_volestrangler |
Aug-09-07 03:05 PM |
#143 |
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