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Thu Aug-09-07 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #75 |
| 79. Like all those "wild-eyed" anti-war "liberals" n/t |
| -A message to conservative Democrats |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Aug-08-07 05:35 PM |
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I think I've got a recommendation in here for you somewhere... |
Mojambo |
Aug-08-07 05:38 PM |
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I'm a pretty conservative Dem, and I agree with all your points. |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-08-07 05:40 PM |
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Except some of those in Congress. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-08-07 05:47 PM |
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True--but the Blue Dogs aren't representative of my beliefs when |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-08-07 05:59 PM |
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The internet is exploding with complaints about the blue dog democrats |
Bitwit1234 |
Aug-08-07 06:23 PM |
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I agree--they are too cozy with BushCo by too many degrees. |
wienerdoggie |
Aug-08-07 06:36 PM |
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These are the so called Dems that should be hit ... |
coco77 |
Aug-09-07 01:47 PM |
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That IS the distinction between being "corporatist" and being "conservative"! |
calipendence |
Aug-08-07 09:10 PM |
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conservatives dems are |
lame54 |
Aug-09-07 12:10 PM |
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Great Video |
ProudDad |
Aug-09-07 01:50 PM |
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this is gonna be goooood... |
MrCoffee |
Aug-08-07 05:41 PM |
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make it 5 |
corkhead |
Aug-08-07 05:42 PM |
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They'll just call you naive or foolish and go back to ignoring you. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Aug-08-07 05:42 PM |
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There Aren't Many Conservative Democrats Left |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 05:44 PM |
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Wha?? The New Democrat caucus still has 63 members |
jgraz |
Aug-08-07 05:46 PM |
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Here's A Link To The Americans For Democratic Action Website |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 05:50 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-08-07 05:47 PM |
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Hah... |
redqueen |
Aug-08-07 05:44 PM |
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I Don't Get It... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 05:46 PM |
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No, because the political landscape in this country has shifted SO far. |
redqueen |
Aug-08-07 05:48 PM |
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No, that would not be fair |
jgraz |
Aug-08-07 05:49 PM |
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Then How Did The Democratic House And Senate Get 90% ADA Ratings? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 05:52 PM |
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Look at the methodology |
jgraz |
Aug-08-07 05:59 PM |
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No Rating System Is Perfect... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 06:04 PM |
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Yes, but this rating system is almost worthless |
jgraz |
Aug-08-07 06:07 PM |
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Bush Sucks... FISA Sucks... The War Sucks.... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 06:15 PM |
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Why? Conservative has always been a subjective label |
jgraz |
Aug-08-07 06:22 PM |
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Barbara Milkulsi Voted For The New FISA Law |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 05:55 PM |
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There are only two Democrats left according to many posters here.. |
Virginia Dare |
Aug-08-07 06:01 PM |
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Now just wait one damn minute! |
jgraz |
Aug-08-07 06:05 PM |
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Al Gore Voted For Gulf War One, Was Anti-Choice , And Anti-Gay |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 06:07 PM |
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Yes, in DU world some are given a pass to evolve.. |
Virginia Dare |
Aug-08-07 06:22 PM |
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How about a progun, prolife type? Is THAT conservative? |
MADem |
Aug-09-07 05:48 PM |
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Excellent, gutsy post |
jgraz |
Aug-08-07 05:45 PM |
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Great post, one I must highly recommend. |
AuntPatsy |
Aug-08-07 05:57 PM |
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I think I missed something |
sandnsea |
Aug-08-07 06:05 PM |
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you cannot rule the Democratic Party by fiat |
hfojvt |
Aug-08-07 06:06 PM |
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I Think We Can All Agree Zell Was A Conservative Dem... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 06:13 PM |
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It's not even 'to the right of DU' |
hfojvt |
Aug-08-07 06:31 PM |
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I Just Think It's Vanity To Play The "I'm More Progressive With You Card" |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-08-07 06:36 PM |
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How is that vanity? |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 10:13 AM |
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Here, here... |
Limelight |
Aug-09-07 11:07 AM |
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Then vote for the Republican |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Aug-09-07 02:00 PM |
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Applauds, applauds |
question everything |
Aug-09-07 02:22 PM |
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Well said! n/t |
cynatnite |
Aug-10-07 01:25 PM |
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oh, snap! |
nashville_brook |
Aug-08-07 07:08 PM |
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Whom do you consider a conservative Democrat? |
maui9002 |
Aug-08-07 07:20 PM |
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You don't think the minimum wage helps low-paid workers? |
RandomKoolzip |
Aug-09-07 01:05 AM |
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A living wage? |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 09:48 AM |
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. |
RandomKoolzip |
Aug-09-07 09:52 AM |
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BS. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 10:19 AM |
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Hours WERE cut |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 10:55 AM |
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Did I dispute that it happened? No. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 11:29 AM |
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Never said necessary, nor only forseeable... |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 11:43 AM |
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So... you chose to ignore the examples from history in my post. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 11:56 AM |
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I'm not an anarchist |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 12:35 PM |
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So then leave an 'out' for small businesses. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 12:57 PM |
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Why not $10,000 an hour! |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 01:37 PM |
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Point, set and match... |
Limelight |
Aug-09-07 11:57 AM |
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Are there any other small-business owners around? |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 12:01 PM |
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Nope, just seems that way... |
Limelight |
Aug-09-07 12:18 PM |
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Or maybe not all small business owners agree with you. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 12:27 PM |
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"Real communism" |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 12:54 PM |
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"If it's true that real communism has never been tried" |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 01:00 PM |
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Heh |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 01:39 PM |
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Enjoy your stay. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 01:40 PM |
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"All" people will never agree... |
Limelight |
Aug-09-07 01:05 PM |
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So your solution is armed revolt? |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 01:23 PM |
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It was a question of corruption |
Limelight |
Aug-09-07 04:05 PM |
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We've been standing up against them for decades. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 04:24 PM |
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The idea that if corporations pass out a few more crums |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-09-07 12:06 PM |
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Maybe you're right... |
divinecommands |
Aug-09-07 12:39 PM |
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To me that sounds like you are against the working class/working people. |
cui bono |
Aug-09-07 03:48 AM |
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I think your question illustrates my original point |
maui9002 |
Aug-09-07 05:49 PM |
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Well the party is open to anyone who wants to join. |
cui bono |
Aug-09-07 09:28 PM |
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It may be a common belief |
maui9002 |
Aug-09-07 10:36 PM |
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"For example, I support international trade and NAFTA" |
HughBeaumont |
Aug-09-07 08:56 AM |
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Aug-09-07 09:45 AM |
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LOL n/t |
orleans |
Aug-09-07 12:33 PM |
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Neither |
GMFORD |
Aug-09-07 10:17 AM |
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Hi GMFORD... welcome to DU! |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 10:22 AM |
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I view you as a Libertarian, somewhat like Aaron Russo. |
liberaldemocrat7 |
Aug-09-07 10:43 AM |
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Welcome to the D.U. |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-07 11:09 AM |
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"You'll find that this site is dominated by the fringe left" |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:18 AM |
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Like all those "wild-eyed" anti-war "liberals" n/t |
PassingFair |
Aug-09-07 11:23 AM |
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Boy those talking points sure sound stale! |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 11:30 AM |
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You think that's stale?? |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:42 AM |
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I already got Marxist today! |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 11:52 AM |
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Welcome to the club, Comrade! |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:54 AM |
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Dirty Commie UN-REFORMED Marxist Pinko reporting for duty! |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 11:57 AM |
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The answer to your question |
maui9002 |
Aug-09-07 06:48 PM |
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You are DLC! |
PassingFair |
Aug-09-07 11:12 AM |
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That's not really my point |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Aug-09-07 11:20 AM |
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Goal should be how best to achieve common set of core values |
maui9002 |
Aug-09-07 07:03 PM |
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Hear, hear! |
Laelth |
Aug-08-07 08:55 PM |
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Nominated. |
H2O Man |
Aug-08-07 08:56 PM |
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K & R!!! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Aug-08-07 10:28 PM |
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k&r...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 10:57 PM |
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The party has shifted too much to the right. Time to make Liberal a good word again |
cui bono |
Aug-09-07 03:49 AM |
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Neither Democrats nor Republicans would ever get within a sniff of winning without moderates... |
piedmont |
Aug-09-07 04:01 AM |
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Really? |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Aug-09-07 08:48 AM |
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Moderate is a nice term for .. |
Lee_n_Tenn |
Aug-09-07 10:10 AM |
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I really don't see how anyone can be "moderate" |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 12:30 PM |
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Old saying |
Johnny Noshoes |
Aug-09-07 05:10 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-09-07 08:21 AM |
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Abolutely 100% Correct! N/T |
Lee_n_Tenn |
Aug-09-07 10:06 AM |
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Anthrax and EMPing small planes |
Lilith Velkor |
Aug-09-07 12:29 PM |
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k&r. . . . . n/t |
annabanana |
Aug-09-07 09:32 AM |
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K&R |
stimbox |
Aug-09-07 09:38 AM |
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for me it's simple. |
tomp |
Aug-09-07 10:11 AM |
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what are the core beliefs of a conservative Democrat? |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 10:16 AM |
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I'll Give It A Shot |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 10:29 AM |
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There are Democrats that believe all those things? |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 10:32 AM |
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Yeah |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 10:50 AM |
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Whoo! Well at least I get to keep my gun. |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-09-07 11:36 AM |
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Does that make one conservative? Guns? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 11:53 AM |
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Does it prohibit one from being liberal? |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-09-07 11:59 AM |
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I am a gun owner and a gun enthusiast.... |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 12:03 PM |
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I'm a gun owner and self-preservationist. |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-09-07 12:06 PM |
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I don't necessarily like this attempt to classify and divide everyone. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 12:08 PM |
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And this is your answer |
question everything |
Aug-09-07 02:36 PM |
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Staying in office |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:15 AM |
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that doesn't help. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 11:18 AM |
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Sorry, but it's true |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:22 AM |
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How about the voters...surely there are actual conservative Democrats. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 11:24 AM |
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Again, you have the problem of what that actually means |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:32 AM |
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You Are Referring To Socialization |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 11:29 AM |
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No, I'm referring to a complete lack of core principles |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:36 AM |
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I Am Not Denying There Are Opportunists... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 11:44 AM |
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Of course culture informs our beliefs |
jgraz |
Aug-09-07 11:54 AM |
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I Tend To Agree... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 11:58 AM |
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There are two different styles of Democratic conservatism: |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-07 11:29 AM |
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You Did A Nice Job Of Delineating The Difference Between The Two Groups... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 11:35 AM |
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interesting take. thanks. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Aug-09-07 11:38 AM |
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I'd quibble with the characterization of the DLC as "anti gun-control." |
benEzra |
Aug-09-07 01:48 PM |
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I think it must have been a typo. |
PassingFair |
Aug-09-07 02:17 PM |
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Not true |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-07 03:44 PM |
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Except when they all voted to authorize the IWR, |
PassingFair |
Aug-09-07 03:58 PM |
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Exactly. IWR was a bill for coercive diplomacy |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-07 05:22 PM |
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"Many conservative Democrats still feel that was the correct vote to make" |
PassingFair |
Aug-09-07 05:26 PM |
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You're entitled to your opinion |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-07 06:17 PM |
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"all the toothless United Nations resolutions in the world have not stopped the genocide in Darfur" |
PassingFair |
Aug-09-07 07:46 PM |
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You're probably right about that... |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-07 03:11 PM |
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I don't think that it is always so simplistic |
Nikia |
Aug-09-07 06:06 PM |
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Please define your terms and explain who you are referring to |
slackmaster |
Aug-09-07 10:29 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-09-07 10:57 AM |
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Die in a fire? |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-09-07 11:38 AM |
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DIAF - Doesn't sound too tolerant to me |
Robson |
Aug-09-07 06:51 PM |
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It Is My Contention |
Me. |
Aug-09-07 11:11 AM |
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I would agree with one major concern. |
Gregorian |
Aug-09-07 11:57 AM |
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I Don't Think It Will Be A Breeze |
Me. |
Aug-09-07 12:08 PM |
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Yes. |
Gregorian |
Aug-09-07 01:15 PM |
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Preemptive Intelligence |
Me. |
Aug-09-07 05:31 PM |
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K&R!! |
proud2Blib |
Aug-09-07 11:58 AM |
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democrats have a social conscience. republiks have no conscience. nt/ |
orleans |
Aug-09-07 12:35 PM |
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A good example of "if you don't like it, then leave" rhetoric. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-09-07 12:59 PM |
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Where would we be? Maybe not so far to the right. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 01:02 PM |
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And not have either the Senate or House of Reps. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-09-07 01:24 PM |
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I'd bet that's more due to DRE's & other vote fraud actually. |
redqueen |
Aug-09-07 01:29 PM |
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Not in Iraq, THAT'S for sure. n/t |
PassingFair |
Aug-09-07 07:52 PM |
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K&R |
PurgedVoter |
Aug-09-07 01:07 PM |
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F*ckin'-A, my man! |
Totally Committed |
Aug-09-07 02:01 PM |
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There is already a 100% big business party |
ProudDad |
Aug-09-07 02:05 PM |
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Maybe You Are Correct On Economic Issues But Not Social Ones.. |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-09-07 02:10 PM |
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I'm talking about the corporate fascist state we have become |
ProudDad |
Aug-09-07 02:17 PM |
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Fascism vs. social issues |
Robson |
Aug-10-07 07:53 AM |
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Unfortunately |
ProudDad |
Aug-10-07 01:21 PM |
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AMEN ! |
Johnny Noshoes |
Aug-09-07 05:22 PM |
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Whew! Glad I didn't get picked up on Lynyrd's radar; but then I support 2A. |
SteveM |
Aug-09-07 02:34 PM |
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Gee Thanks |
Sherman A1 |
Aug-09-07 03:49 PM |
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Recognize the fact |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Aug-09-07 04:13 PM |
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Historically views shift along the way |
Sherman A1 |
Aug-09-07 07:08 PM |
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This is adopting the radical right's definition of "conservative" and I won't play |
DFW |
Aug-09-07 04:19 PM |
#152 |
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You are CLEARLY wrong on who controls the Democratic Party ... |
KneelBeforeZod |
Aug-09-07 04:46 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
OzarkDem |
Aug-09-07 06:08 PM |
#167 |
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Old saying... |
Aya Reiko |
Aug-09-07 11:40 PM |
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You would hand districts to the Republicans? Give them back the House? |
Xithras |
Aug-09-07 04:46 PM |
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See post 101. |
OnionPatch |
Aug-09-07 05:25 PM |
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k+r |
Progs Rock |
Aug-09-07 05:33 PM |
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What a sanctimonious load of.... |
MADem |
Aug-09-07 05:44 PM |
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Well Said! |
Sherman A1 |
Aug-09-07 07:09 PM |
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"conservative viewpoints "? |
19jet54 |
Aug-09-07 06:15 PM |
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Well put! |
spoony |
Aug-10-07 06:12 AM |
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Things aren't always so black and white. |
Scooter24 |
Aug-09-07 06:32 PM |
#170 |
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What an inspirational post! |
philosophie_en_rose |
Aug-09-07 07:12 PM |
#176 |
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Well Said! |
Sherman A1 |
Aug-10-07 02:23 PM |
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One problem with your analogy. |
Aya Reiko |
Aug-09-07 11:21 PM |
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Conservatism - Cultural, Fiscal, Religious |
Robson |
Aug-10-07 08:03 AM |
#185 |