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29. Bush Sucks... FISA Sucks... The War Sucks....
I just recoil at the vanity that suggests that anybody to the right of the generic "me" is a conservative...
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  -A message to conservative Democrats lynyrd_skynyrd  Aug-08-07 05:35 PM   #0 
  - I think I've got a recommendation in here for you somewhere...  Mojambo   Aug-08-07 05:38 PM   #1 
  - I'm a pretty conservative Dem, and I agree with all your points.  wienerdoggie   Aug-08-07 05:40 PM   #2 
  - Except some of those in Congress.  BlooInBloo   Aug-08-07 05:47 PM   #11 
  - True--but the Blue Dogs aren't representative of my beliefs when  wienerdoggie   Aug-08-07 05:59 PM   #19 
  - The internet is exploding with complaints about the blue dog democrats  Bitwit1234   Aug-08-07 06:23 PM   #32 
     - I agree--they are too cozy with BushCo by too many degrees.  wienerdoggie   Aug-08-07 06:36 PM   #35 
     - These are the so called Dems that should be hit ...  coco77   Aug-09-07 01:47 PM   #134 
  - That IS the distinction between being "corporatist" and being "conservative"!  calipendence   Aug-08-07 09:10 PM   #40 
  - conservatives dems are  lame54   Aug-09-07 12:10 PM   #111 
     - Great Video  ProudDad   Aug-09-07 01:50 PM   #136 
  - this is gonna be goooood...  MrCoffee   Aug-08-07 05:41 PM   #3 
  - make it 5  corkhead   Aug-08-07 05:42 PM   #4 
  - They'll just call you naive or foolish and go back to ignoring you. - n/t  porphyrian   Aug-08-07 05:42 PM   #5 
  - There Aren't Many Conservative Democrats Left  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 05:44 PM   #6 
  - Wha?? The New Democrat caucus still has 63 members  jgraz   Aug-08-07 05:46 PM   #9 
  - Here's A Link To The Americans For Democratic Action Website  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 05:50 PM   #15 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-07 05:47 PM   #12 
  - Hah...  redqueen   Aug-08-07 05:44 PM   #7 
  - I Don't Get It...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 05:46 PM   #10 
     - No, because the political landscape in this country has shifted SO far.  redqueen   Aug-08-07 05:48 PM   #13 
     - No, that would not be fair  jgraz   Aug-08-07 05:49 PM   #14 
     - Then How Did The Democratic House And Senate Get 90% ADA Ratings?  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 05:52 PM   #16 
     - Look at the methodology  jgraz   Aug-08-07 05:59 PM   #20 
        - No Rating System Is Perfect...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 06:04 PM   #22 
           - Yes, but this rating system is almost worthless  jgraz   Aug-08-07 06:07 PM   #26 
              - Bush Sucks... FISA Sucks... The War Sucks....  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 06:15 PM   #29 
                 - Why? Conservative has always been a subjective label  jgraz   Aug-08-07 06:22 PM   #30 
     - Barbara Milkulsi Voted For The New FISA Law  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 05:55 PM   #17 
        - There are only two Democrats left according to many posters here..  Virginia Dare   Aug-08-07 06:01 PM   #21 
           - Now just wait one damn minute!  jgraz   Aug-08-07 06:05 PM   #23 
           - Al Gore Voted For Gulf War One, Was Anti-Choice , And Anti-Gay  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 06:07 PM   #27 
              - Yes, in DU world some are given a pass to evolve..  Virginia Dare   Aug-08-07 06:22 PM   #31 
     - How about a progun, prolife type? Is THAT conservative?  MADem   Aug-09-07 05:48 PM   #164 
  - Excellent, gutsy post  jgraz   Aug-08-07 05:45 PM   #8 
  - Great post, one I must highly recommend.  AuntPatsy   Aug-08-07 05:57 PM   #18 
  - I think I missed something  sandnsea   Aug-08-07 06:05 PM   #24 
  - you cannot rule the Democratic Party by fiat  hfojvt   Aug-08-07 06:06 PM   #25 
  - I Think We Can All Agree Zell Was A Conservative Dem...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 06:13 PM   #28 
  - It's not even 'to the right of DU'  hfojvt   Aug-08-07 06:31 PM   #33 
     - I Just Think It's Vanity To Play The "I'm More Progressive With You Card"  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 06:36 PM   #34 
        - How is that vanity?  redqueen   Aug-09-07 10:13 AM   #58 
  - Here, here...  Limelight   Aug-09-07 11:07 AM   #70 
  - Then vote for the Republican  lynyrd_skynyrd   Aug-09-07 02:00 PM   #137 
  - Applauds, applauds  question everything   Aug-09-07 02:22 PM   #143 
  - Well said! n/t  cynatnite   Aug-10-07 01:25 PM   #187 
  - oh, snap!  nashville_brook   Aug-08-07 07:08 PM   #36 
  - Whom do you consider a conservative Democrat?  maui9002   Aug-08-07 07:20 PM   #37 
  - You don't think the minimum wage helps low-paid workers?  RandomKoolzip   Aug-09-07 01:05 AM   #43 
  - A living wage?  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 09:48 AM   #53 
     - .  RandomKoolzip   Aug-09-07 09:52 AM   #54 
     - BS.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 10:19 AM   #61 
     - Hours WERE cut  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 10:55 AM   #68 
        - Did I dispute that it happened? No.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 11:29 AM   #81 
        - Never said necessary, nor only forseeable...  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 11:43 AM   #92 
           - So... you chose to ignore the examples from history in my post.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 11:56 AM   #98 
              - I'm not an anarchist  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 12:35 PM   #117 
                 - So then leave an 'out' for small businesses.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 12:57 PM   #121 
                    - Why not $10,000 an hour!  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 01:37 PM   #131 
        - Point, set and match...  Limelight   Aug-09-07 11:57 AM   #99 
           - Are there any other small-business owners around?  redqueen   Aug-09-07 12:01 PM   #105 
              - Nope, just seems that way...  Limelight   Aug-09-07 12:18 PM   #112 
                 - Or maybe not all small business owners agree with you.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 12:27 PM   #113 
                    - "Real communism"  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 12:54 PM   #120 
                    - "If it's true that real communism has never been tried"  redqueen   Aug-09-07 01:00 PM   #123 
                       - Heh  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 01:39 PM   #132 
                          - Enjoy your stay.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 01:40 PM   #133 
                    - "All" people will never agree...  Limelight   Aug-09-07 01:05 PM   #125 
                       - So your solution is armed revolt?  redqueen   Aug-09-07 01:23 PM   #128 
                          - It was a question of corruption  Limelight   Aug-09-07 04:05 PM   #150 
                             - We've been standing up against them for decades.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 04:24 PM   #153 
     - The idea that if corporations pass out a few more crums  AnotherGreenWorld   Aug-09-07 12:06 PM   #108 
        - Maybe you're right...  divinecommands   Aug-09-07 12:39 PM   #119 
  - To me that sounds like you are against the working class/working people.  cui bono   Aug-09-07 03:48 AM   #44 
  - I think your question illustrates my original point  maui9002   Aug-09-07 05:49 PM   #165 
     - Well the party is open to anyone who wants to join.  cui bono   Aug-09-07 09:28 PM   #179 
        - It may be a common belief  maui9002   Aug-09-07 10:36 PM   #180 
  - "For example, I support international trade and NAFTA"  HughBeaumont   Aug-09-07 08:56 AM   #49 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-09-07 09:45 AM   #52 
  - LOL n/t  orleans   Aug-09-07 12:33 PM   #116 
  - Neither  GMFORD   Aug-09-07 10:17 AM   #60 
  - Hi GMFORD... welcome to DU!  redqueen   Aug-09-07 10:22 AM   #62 
  - I view you as a Libertarian, somewhat like Aaron Russo.  liberaldemocrat7   Aug-09-07 10:43 AM   #66 
  - Welcome to the D.U.  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-09-07 11:09 AM   #71 
  - "You'll find that this site is dominated by the fringe left"  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:18 AM   #75 
  - Like all those "wild-eyed" anti-war "liberals" n/t  PassingFair   Aug-09-07 11:23 AM   #79 
     - Boy those talking points sure sound stale!  redqueen   Aug-09-07 11:30 AM   #84 
        - You think that's stale??  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:42 AM   #91 
           - I already got Marxist today!  redqueen   Aug-09-07 11:52 AM   #94 
              - Welcome to the club, Comrade!  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:54 AM   #97 
                 - Dirty Commie UN-REFORMED Marxist Pinko reporting for duty!  redqueen   Aug-09-07 11:57 AM   #100 
  - The answer to your question  maui9002   Aug-09-07 06:48 PM   #171 
  - You are DLC!  PassingFair   Aug-09-07 11:12 AM   #73 
  - That's not really my point  lynyrd_skynyrd   Aug-09-07 11:20 AM   #77 
     - Goal should be how best to achieve common set of core values  maui9002   Aug-09-07 07:03 PM   #173 
  - Hear, hear!  Laelth   Aug-08-07 08:55 PM   #38 
  - Nominated.  H2O Man   Aug-08-07 08:56 PM   #39 
  - K & R!!!  in_cog_ni_to   Aug-08-07 10:28 PM   #41 
  - k&r...n/t  Madspirit   Aug-08-07 10:57 PM   #42 
  - The party has shifted too much to the right. Time to make Liberal a good word again  cui bono   Aug-09-07 03:49 AM   #45 
  - Neither Democrats nor Republicans would ever get within a sniff of winning without moderates...  piedmont   Aug-09-07 04:01 AM   #46 
  - Really?  lynyrd_skynyrd   Aug-09-07 08:48 AM   #48 
  - Moderate is a nice term for ..  Lee_n_Tenn   Aug-09-07 10:10 AM   #56 
     - I really don't see how anyone can be "moderate"  redqueen   Aug-09-07 12:30 PM   #115 
     - Old saying  Johnny Noshoes   Aug-09-07 05:10 PM   #156 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-09-07 08:21 AM   #47 
  - Abolutely 100% Correct! N/T  Lee_n_Tenn   Aug-09-07 10:06 AM   #55 
  - Anthrax and EMPing small planes  Lilith Velkor   Aug-09-07 12:29 PM   #114 
  - k&r. . . . . n/t  annabanana   Aug-09-07 09:32 AM   #50 
  - K&R  stimbox   Aug-09-07 09:38 AM   #51 
  - for me it's simple.  tomp   Aug-09-07 10:11 AM   #57 
  - what are the core beliefs of a conservative Democrat?  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 10:16 AM   #59 
  - I'll Give It A Shot  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-09-07 10:29 AM   #64 
  - There are Democrats that believe all those things?  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 10:32 AM   #65 
  - Yeah  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-09-07 10:50 AM   #67 
  - Whoo! Well at least I get to keep my gun.  Maddy McCall   Aug-09-07 11:36 AM   #87 
     - Does that make one conservative? Guns? nt.  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 11:53 AM   #95 
        - Does it prohibit one from being liberal?  Maddy McCall   Aug-09-07 11:59 AM   #104 
           - I am a gun owner and a gun enthusiast....  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 12:03 PM   #106 
              - I'm a gun owner and self-preservationist.  Maddy McCall   Aug-09-07 12:06 PM   #107 
                 - I don't necessarily like this attempt to classify and divide everyone. nt.  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 12:08 PM   #109 
                    - And this is your answer  question everything   Aug-09-07 02:36 PM   #145 
  - Staying in office  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:15 AM   #74 
  - that doesn't help. nt.  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 11:18 AM   #76 
  - Sorry, but it's true  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:22 AM   #78 
     - How about the voters...surely there are actual conservative Democrats. nt.  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 11:24 AM   #80 
        - Again, you have the problem of what that actually means  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:32 AM   #85 
  - You Are Referring To Socialization  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-09-07 11:29 AM   #83 
     - No, I'm referring to a complete lack of core principles  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:36 AM   #88 
        - I Am Not Denying There Are Opportunists...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-09-07 11:44 AM   #93 
           - Of course culture informs our beliefs  jgraz   Aug-09-07 11:54 AM   #96 
              - I Tend To Agree...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-09-07 11:58 AM   #102 
  - There are two different styles of Democratic conservatism:  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-09-07 11:29 AM   #82 
     - You Did A Nice Job Of Delineating The Difference Between The Two Groups...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-09-07 11:35 AM   #86 
     - interesting take. thanks. nt.  IndianaJones   Aug-09-07 11:38 AM   #90 
     - I'd quibble with the characterization of the DLC as "anti gun-control."  benEzra   Aug-09-07 01:48 PM   #135 
     - I think it must have been a typo.  PassingFair   Aug-09-07 02:17 PM   #142 
     - Not true  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-09-07 03:44 PM   #147 
        - Except when they all voted to authorize the IWR,  PassingFair   Aug-09-07 03:58 PM   #149 
           - Exactly. IWR was a bill for coercive diplomacy  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-09-07 05:22 PM   #157 
              - "Many conservative Democrats still feel that was the correct vote to make"  PassingFair   Aug-09-07 05:26 PM   #160 
                 - You're entitled to your opinion  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-09-07 06:17 PM   #169 
                    - "all the toothless United Nations resolutions in the world have not stopped the genocide in Darfur"  PassingFair   Aug-09-07 07:46 PM   #177 
     - You're probably right about that...  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-09-07 03:11 PM   #146 
     - I don't think that it is always so simplistic  Nikia   Aug-09-07 06:06 PM   #166 
  - Please define your terms and explain who you are referring to  slackmaster   Aug-09-07 10:29 AM   #63 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-09-07 10:57 AM   #69 
  - Die in a fire?  Maddy McCall   Aug-09-07 11:38 AM   #89 
     - DIAF - Doesn't sound too tolerant to me  Robson   Aug-09-07 06:51 PM   #172 
  - It Is My Contention  Me.   Aug-09-07 11:11 AM   #72 
  - I would agree with one major concern.  Gregorian   Aug-09-07 11:57 AM   #101 
     - I Don't Think It Will Be A Breeze  Me.   Aug-09-07 12:08 PM   #110 
        - Yes.  Gregorian   Aug-09-07 01:15 PM   #127 
           - Preemptive Intelligence  Me.   Aug-09-07 05:31 PM   #161 
  - K&R!!  proud2Blib   Aug-09-07 11:58 AM   #103 
  - democrats have a social conscience. republiks have no conscience. nt/  orleans   Aug-09-07 12:35 PM   #118 
  - A good example of "if you don't like it, then leave" rhetoric.  aikoaiko   Aug-09-07 12:59 PM   #122 
  - Where would we be? Maybe not so far to the right.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 01:02 PM   #124 
  - And not have either the Senate or House of Reps.  aikoaiko   Aug-09-07 01:24 PM   #129 
     - I'd bet that's more due to DRE's & other vote fraud actually.  redqueen   Aug-09-07 01:29 PM   #130 
  - Not in Iraq, THAT'S for sure. n/t  PassingFair   Aug-09-07 07:52 PM   #178 
  - K&R  PurgedVoter   Aug-09-07 01:07 PM   #126 
  - F*ckin'-A, my man!  Totally Committed   Aug-09-07 02:01 PM   #138 
  - There is already a 100% big business party  ProudDad   Aug-09-07 02:05 PM   #139 
  - Maybe You Are Correct On Economic Issues But Not Social Ones..  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-09-07 02:10 PM   #140 
  - I'm talking about the corporate fascist state we have become  ProudDad   Aug-09-07 02:17 PM   #141 
     - Fascism vs. social issues  Robson   Aug-10-07 07:53 AM   #184 
        - Unfortunately  ProudDad   Aug-10-07 01:21 PM   #186 
  - AMEN !  Johnny Noshoes   Aug-09-07 05:22 PM   #158 
  - Whew! Glad I didn't get picked up on Lynyrd's radar; but then I support 2A.  SteveM   Aug-09-07 02:34 PM   #144 
  - Gee Thanks  Sherman A1   Aug-09-07 03:49 PM   #148 
  - Recognize the fact  lynyrd_skynyrd   Aug-09-07 04:13 PM   #151 
     - Historically views shift along the way  Sherman A1   Aug-09-07 07:08 PM   #174 
  - This is adopting the radical right's definition of "conservative" and I won't play  DFW   Aug-09-07 04:19 PM   #152 
  - You are CLEARLY wrong on who controls the Democratic Party ...  KneelBeforeZod   Aug-09-07 04:46 PM   #154 
  - Welcome to DU  OzarkDem   Aug-09-07 06:08 PM   #167 
  - Old saying...  Aya Reiko   Aug-09-07 11:40 PM   #182 
  - You would hand districts to the Republicans? Give them back the House?  Xithras   Aug-09-07 04:46 PM   #155 
  - See post 101.  OnionPatch   Aug-09-07 05:25 PM   #159 
  - k+r  Progs Rock   Aug-09-07 05:33 PM   #162 
  - What a sanctimonious load of....  MADem   Aug-09-07 05:44 PM   #163 
  - Well Said!  Sherman A1   Aug-09-07 07:09 PM   #175 
  - "conservative viewpoints "?  19jet54   Aug-09-07 06:15 PM   #168 
  - Well put!  spoony   Aug-10-07 06:12 AM   #183 
  - Things aren't always so black and white.  Scooter24   Aug-09-07 06:32 PM   #170 
  - What an inspirational post!  philosophie_en_rose   Aug-09-07 07:12 PM   #176 
  - Well Said!  Sherman A1   Aug-10-07 02:23 PM   #188 
  - One problem with your analogy.  Aya Reiko   Aug-09-07 11:21 PM   #181 
  - Conservatism - Cultural, Fiscal, Religious  Robson   Aug-10-07 08:03 AM   #185 
 

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