| 62. True, but what chance do they have of winning, really? |
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I'm pretty optimistic that a vast majority just don't want to turn the clock back.
We can use this to support the Democratic candidate for President too. Scare the voters with the judges the right wingers will pick. In fact it might be a good idea to find out who some of them are - Circuit Court judges who have made terrible rulings - and make ads that "threaten" the voters with these judges.
And the court can only do so much, what it messes with Congress and States can often do something to turn back, so it's a temporary setback.
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| -Why we (feminists) fight. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 08:50 AM |
#0 |
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Aw. I thought this was gonna be an within-the-system vs revolutionary thread.... |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-08-07 08:51 AM |
#1 |
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Might not be a bad idea lol. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 08:56 AM |
#2 |
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I can count to 1. :) |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-08-07 08:59 AM |
#3 |
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I can't stand you, more and more...each day. |
Breeze54 |
Aug-08-07 02:16 PM |
#75 |
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I suggest you stop trying. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-08-07 02:24 PM |
#83 |
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Dude, don't f***ing mock women. |
quantessd |
Aug-09-07 03:08 AM |
#175 |
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So very true. Thank you and recommended! eom |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-08-07 08:59 AM |
#4 |
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Thank you for posting this link |
lulu |
Aug-08-07 09:06 AM |
#5 |
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Exactly. I would take it a step further and say that a lot of liberal men |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 09:35 AM |
#8 |
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"Because, she's a little too old to fall off her bike but too young to get beat up by her boyfriend" |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 10:28 AM |
#18 |
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Yeah I thought I might puke. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 12:09 PM |
#39 |
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Believe me lulu, that world never existed |
JitterbugPerfume |
Aug-08-07 06:59 PM |
#154 |
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fight the good fight. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-08-07 09:13 AM |
#6 |
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thank you Katherine |
JitterbugPerfume |
Aug-08-07 09:31 AM |
#7 |
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I don't fear the power of women. Therefore the general statement "Men fear the power of women" |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 10:04 AM |
#13 |
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It's kind of like your generalization on another thread that a rich person..... |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 10:11 AM |
#14 |
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Not relevant. And quote where I said that. In fact, I said exactly the opposite. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 10:16 AM |
#16 |
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It's completely relevant |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 10:22 AM |
#17 |
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This is the whole post. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 10:32 AM |
#22 |
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And JE has the right |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 10:34 AM |
#23 |
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"lets not sidetrack this thread and the Human Rights of Women into a primary debate" |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 10:39 AM |
#27 |
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Oopsie! |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 10:49 AM |
#28 |
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no worries! |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 10:52 AM |
#29 |
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quit nit picking |
JitterbugPerfume |
Aug-08-07 11:47 AM |
#35 |
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perhaps I should have said |
JitterbugPerfume |
Aug-08-07 11:51 AM |
#36 |
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No. Lots of unintelligent people with nothing to contribute spend their time being pedantic... |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-08-07 12:21 PM |
#51 |
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Aug-08-07 12:09 PM |
#40 |
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Piss off because I'm not afraid of women? |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 12:47 PM |
#56 |
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Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-08-07 09:18 PM |
#160 |
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Aug-09-07 01:17 AM |
#171 |
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Umm |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-09-07 07:28 AM |
#182 |
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it is just a |
BoneDaddy |
Aug-08-07 10:51 PM |
#167 |
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You're cool. So are are the men who are like you, BoneDaddy. |
quantessd |
Aug-10-07 12:08 AM |
#189 |
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I have known many men who are jerks |
BoneDaddy |
Aug-10-07 10:00 AM |
#190 |
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No men do not fear the power of women. You fear facing reality. |
Sapere aude |
Aug-08-07 12:18 PM |
#48 |
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"Some men may fear the power of women but those are the ones who don't really matter." |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 12:55 PM |
#57 |
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And do Justices Breyer and Stevens fear women? |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:05 PM |
#71 |
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Stevens & Breyers are not in the majority on the court |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:09 PM |
#73 |
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Ok. I misread your statement, confusing it with a later comment. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:19 PM |
#77 |
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I think it's frightening that they have so much control over my reproductive freedom |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:21 PM |
#80 |
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It doesn't follow that they fear women though. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:24 PM |
#84 |
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They fear women having control over their lives and making their own decisions |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:26 PM |
#86 |
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How do you know that? |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:32 PM |
#92 |
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Let me know when women start bombing clinics and killing abortion doctors |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:39 PM |
#95 |
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No one on the Supreme Court--not even the men!--has bombed an abortion clinic. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:45 PM |
#98 |
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I didn't say that, now did I |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:46 PM |
#101 |
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Opinions should have reasons to support them. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:58 PM |
#104 |
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I'm waiting for your response to #101. |
quantessd |
Aug-09-07 03:25 AM |
#176 |
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I already responded to 101.... |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-09-07 07:25 AM |
#180 |
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Just like there isn't much else to say to someone acting like a brick wall |
wicket |
Aug-09-07 07:28 AM |
#181 |
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Let it be on the record that |
quantessd |
Aug-09-07 11:56 PM |
#188 |
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"No one on the Supreme Court--not even the men!--has bombed an abortion clinic." |
quantessd |
Aug-09-07 02:19 AM |
#172 |
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"And, a hilarious moment to everyone else!" |
wicket |
Aug-09-07 07:29 AM |
#183 |
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Hello. I think you and I should get to know one another. |
quantessd |
Aug-09-07 12:43 AM |
#170 |
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The Freeper ones. |
otherlander |
Aug-11-07 10:51 AM |
#196 |
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Fear, or loathing? |
lynnertic |
Aug-09-07 06:55 AM |
#178 |
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Good point |
wicket |
Aug-09-07 07:21 AM |
#179 |
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And wouldn't it be just as frightening if nine women with the views of Ann Coulter |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:27 PM |
#87 |
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The currently reality is much more frightening |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:29 PM |
#89 |
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So the idea of nine women who not only would want to overturn Roe but could quite easily |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:36 PM |
#93 |
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I only deal in reality |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:39 PM |
#94 |
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Critical thinking requires hypothetical thinking. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:43 PM |
#97 |
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You're asking me to imagine 9 Ann Coulters on the Supreme Court |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:45 PM |
#99 |
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The point is merely to imagine a situation such that |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:55 PM |
#103 |
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Aug-09-07 03:42 AM |
#177 |
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it's fearing women's POWER, not fearing an individual woman, get it right. n/t |
Scout |
Aug-08-07 08:56 PM |
#156 |
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Start a discussion here about |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 01:09 PM |
#58 |
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I said some men fear the power of women but most of us don't and to say |
Sapere aude |
Aug-08-07 01:22 PM |
#64 |
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If you didn' t fear the power of women |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 02:00 PM |
#70 |
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Man you sure have a vivid imagination. |
Sapere aude |
Aug-08-07 02:08 PM |
#72 |
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I stand by what I said |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 02:19 PM |
#78 |
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I agree. |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 02:20 PM |
#79 |
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You have a vivid imagination also. |
Sapere aude |
Aug-08-07 02:23 PM |
#81 |
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Are you pro-choice? |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:41 PM |
#96 |
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Yes why do you ask? |
Sapere aude |
Aug-08-07 02:46 PM |
#100 |
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Yeah, me too. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 02:49 PM |
#102 |
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I really don't fear men either. I'm 61 years old and happily married. |
Sapere aude |
Aug-08-07 03:20 PM |
#105 |
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The defensiveness says it all...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 02:24 PM |
#85 |
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Too bad that white privilege isn't something you can just take off-- |
eridani |
Aug-09-07 12:19 AM |
#168 |
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hahaha...dream on. Supreme Court anyone?...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 01:59 PM |
#69 |
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I have had 67 years |
JitterbugPerfume |
Aug-08-07 07:04 PM |
#155 |
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Yesterday I heard another story about abuse |
cally |
Aug-08-07 09:39 AM |
#9 |
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I think the hatred stems from fear of women... |
femrap |
Aug-08-07 09:45 AM |
#10 |
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I don't understand it either. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 12:10 PM |
#41 |
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Thank you Katherine |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 10:00 AM |
#11 |
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Amen!!!! |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 10:02 AM |
#12 |
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There is something comforting about that victim stance |
treestar |
Aug-08-07 10:15 AM |
#15 |
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If you look to the future without feminism |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 10:35 AM |
#24 |
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treestar did not say anything about abandoning feminism |
hfojvt |
Aug-08-07 01:10 PM |
#59 |
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you certainly can saw "we" when you are on the same side |
treestar |
Aug-08-07 01:14 PM |
#61 |
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I don't. We need feminism. Since it is mainstream, that should make |
treestar |
Aug-08-07 01:10 PM |
#60 |
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Agreed. |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 01:19 PM |
#63 |
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Absolutely, no dwelling. But no apathy either. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 12:12 PM |
#42 |
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The one who want to turn the clocks back ARE IN CHARGE! |
alarimer |
Aug-08-07 12:21 PM |
#50 |
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True, but what chance do they have of winning, really? |
treestar |
Aug-08-07 01:17 PM |
#62 |
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I wonder about how liberal of judges Clinton would appoint. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 03:30 PM |
#106 |
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The difference between there and here, |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 10:30 AM |
#19 |
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Hmm. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-08-07 10:31 AM |
#21 |
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That group of people who consistently show up |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 10:36 AM |
#25 |
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Too many to count |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 10:39 AM |
#26 |
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The "what about the men!" coalition |
thecatburgler |
Aug-08-07 10:57 AM |
#31 |
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Why do they never |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 11:04 AM |
#32 |
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Because most of their "issues" aren't |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 12:17 PM |
#47 |
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"Exactly where we were before, since you weren't helping us anyway." |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 12:16 PM |
#46 |
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But there are men who defend women's rights. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 04:35 PM |
#116 |
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She's not talking about those few men. |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 04:42 PM |
#121 |
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Yeah. I just think some of the rhetoric on this thread |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-08-07 04:49 PM |
#128 |
| -
Amidst the battle cries of "You're irrational!" "Women are soooo emotional!" |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 12:13 PM |
#43 |
| -
Awwwww That Was Really Cute. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 12:14 PM |
#44 |
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Aug-08-07 12:19 PM |
#49 |
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Why The Melodrama? I Wasn't Even Responding To You. I Thought Your OP Was Fine. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 12:22 PM |
#53 |
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Actually no, |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 12:29 PM |
#55 |
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Right. You've never actually seen anything you would |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 12:24 PM |
#54 |
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You are SO right Thom |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 02:23 PM |
#82 |
| -
Show Me Someone Who Is. Ready, Set, GO! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:12 PM |
#109 |
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We're not allowed to call people out and you KNOW it |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 04:15 PM |
#110 |
| -
...and just fyi |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 04:24 PM |
#113 |
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You Realize How Laughable It Is To Claim There Are 106,000 Of Us, Right? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:37 PM |
#117 |
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blah blah blah blah |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 04:41 PM |
#120 |
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No One Called You Or Them Liars. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:43 PM |
#122 |
| -
*snerk* |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 04:45 PM |
#125 |
| -
so they aren't liars, but they are "guilty of having flawed, clouded or inaccurate perception" .... |
Scout |
Aug-08-07 09:11 PM |
#157 |
| -
...and it is funny |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 04:44 PM |
#123 |
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Please, Read A Response Before You Continue Replying. It'll Save Us Time. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:49 PM |
#129 |
| -
According to OMC, there is plenty of anti-christian bigotry on DU. |
Kingshakabobo |
Aug-10-07 10:44 AM |
#191 |
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Thank-you For This! |
Madspirit |
Aug-10-07 12:36 PM |
#192 |
| -
How DARE I Defend Against Bigotry. I Mean, Like, HOW DARE I! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-10-07 02:17 PM |
#194 |
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Aug-08-07 04:44 PM |
#124 |
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Yup! There's That Knee Jerk Of Flawed Perception Reaction I'm Talkin About! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:47 PM |
#126 |
| -
Sorry Thom ...You Are Right |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 04:49 PM |
#127 |
| -
I Have Noticed |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 04:51 PM |
#130 |
| -
So What Ever Happened To Providing Supporting Substance? You Dead In The Water Already? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:51 PM |
#131 |
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That's A Cop Out. Just Post The Quotes AND The Context. No Names Are Necessary. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:31 PM |
#115 |
| -
Check your PM |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:27 PM |
#88 |
| -
Here's a good example of sexism |
OzarkDem |
Aug-08-07 04:29 PM |
#114 |
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Oh Absolutely. Even Now There Is Still Far Too Much Sexism In Our Society. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Aug-08-07 04:38 PM |
#118 |
| -
I can't speak for DU |
OzarkDem |
Aug-08-07 04:40 PM |
#119 |
| -
The Democratic Party is the party of women |
OzarkDem |
Aug-08-07 03:31 PM |
#107 |
| -
But do you chew gum? |
Redneck Socialist |
Aug-08-07 10:30 AM |
#20 |
| -
LOL! |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 10:55 AM |
#30 |
| -
So I just read that link and...oy vey! |
thecatburgler |
Aug-08-07 11:08 AM |
#33 |
| -
Isn't he a piece of work? |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 11:45 AM |
#34 |
| -
Yes, because everything was so much better back then. |
ThomCat |
Aug-08-07 11:57 AM |
#37 |
| -
Because you know, we didn't |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 12:06 PM |
#38 |
| -
Check this statement out........ |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-08-07 06:35 PM |
#152 |
| -
But military spending is Important, and Manly! |
thecatburgler |
Aug-08-07 09:20 PM |
#162 |
| -
That's exactly it..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-08-07 09:29 PM |
#165 |
| -
If these guys really had to live in a world with only each other I'd be happy. |
Sapere aude |
Aug-08-07 12:15 PM |
#45 |
| -
They'd nuke us within a week. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 12:21 PM |
#52 |
| -
They'd die of radiation sickness in the attempt |
Lilith Velkor |
Aug-08-07 01:35 PM |
#65 |
| -
I shouldn't laugh |
supernova |
Aug-08-07 01:49 PM |
#67 |
| -
k&r...Of Course...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 01:37 PM |
#66 |
| -
"most keep these thoughts inside" |
cobalt1999 |
Aug-08-07 01:52 PM |
#68 |
| -
No one told you what you are thinking. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 02:30 PM |
#90 |
| -
Your OP made me cry! Literally! THANK YOU!!! |
Breeze54 |
Aug-08-07 02:12 PM |
#74 |
| -
Howdy neighbor! |
wicket |
Aug-08-07 02:17 PM |
#76 |
| -
Hi there, wicket! |
Breeze54 |
Aug-08-07 04:17 PM |
#111 |
| -
:D |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 02:30 PM |
#91 |
| -
K&R |
musette_sf |
Aug-08-07 03:48 PM |
#108 |
| -
Ron Paul is an MD. OB-Gyn for many years in Lake Jackson, TX. |
Perragrande |
Aug-09-07 12:31 AM |
#169 |
| -
oh yes, spent WAAAAY too much time |
musette_sf |
Aug-09-07 09:49 AM |
#186 |
| -
What a despicable pig. |
quantessd |
Aug-08-07 04:19 PM |
#112 |
| -
I still don't hate people, but I do hate ideas. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:13 PM |
#132 |
| -
The Myth of Reverse Discrimination....n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:17 PM |
#133 |
| -
...because |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:18 PM |
#134 |
| -
...because what is SO telling |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:20 PM |
#135 |
| -
No, I'm equally offended by both. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:22 PM |
#137 |
| -
Well now, that is funny |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:28 PM |
#141 |
| -
What did you read? Clearly something other than what I wrote. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:39 PM |
#147 |
| -
hahaha...whew...hahaha |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:50 PM |
#149 |
| -
No, I'm off to fight bias. Period. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:57 PM |
#150 |
| -
Are you working from a definition of "discrimination" that is unfamiliar to the rest of us? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:20 PM |
#136 |
| -
YOU are claiming reverse discrimination |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:27 PM |
#140 |
| -
There you go again. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:36 PM |
#145 |
| -
I doubt that will happen. Based on his posts so far, I refuse to engage. nt |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 05:36 PM |
#146 |
| -
Prudent. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:44 PM |
#148 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-08-07 09:14 PM |
#158 |
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When given the opportunity to oppose bias and predjudice; both. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 09:58 PM |
#166 |
| -
Maybe you can just feel confident that you are a good man and a good person? |
quantessd |
Aug-09-07 02:49 AM |
#173 |
| -
I do. But apparently it's combative to assert that I'm not unique. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-09-07 10:39 AM |
#187 |
| -
What is Amazing and SO Telling |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:23 PM |
#138 |
| -
But . . . but . . . but . . . |
gollygee |
Aug-08-07 05:24 PM |
#139 |
| -
Kinda like white folks or Christians |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:30 PM |
#142 |
| -
What is amazing and so telling... |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-08-07 05:31 PM |
#143 |
| -
Really...go google. ...n/t |
Madspirit |
Aug-08-07 05:33 PM |
#144 |
| -
I think the question of equal rights |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-08-07 06:13 PM |
#151 |
| -
EXACTLY - who the hell has the right to "grant" me "rights" ??? These rights should be |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 09:16 PM |
#159 |
| -
It makes my blood boil. |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-08-07 09:20 PM |
#161 |
| -
I wouldn't count on Clinton for much... |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-08-07 09:23 PM |
#163 |
| -
At least it would be nice to see a woman in the white house |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-08-07 09:25 PM |
#164 |
| -
It really would. |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-09-07 07:51 AM |
#185 |
| -
Right on |
ismnotwasm |
Aug-08-07 06:46 PM |
#153 |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-09-07 02:53 AM |
#174 |
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And this is based on what? I know for myself that's not true. |
AnotherGreenWorld |
Aug-09-07 07:31 AM |
#184 |
| -
What'd we miss? |
Katherine Brengle |
Aug-10-07 12:38 PM |
#193 |
| -
Yeah, what did we miss? n/t |
Kingshakabobo |
Aug-11-07 10:29 AM |
#195 |
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