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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 05:16 PM
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141. I disagree, Clinton ran away from Gore
Edited on Thu Aug-09-07 05:18 PM by Uncle Joe
when *he stopped thinking about tomorrow and gave the corporate media a Republican Frame on a silver platter regarding the issue of integrity, precisely the talking points Bush used "to restore honor and integrity to the White House" to keep the race close enough to steal. This issue had a major carry over effect combined with the same corporate media's slander of "Al Gore claiming to have invented the Internet." This also tells me Clinton never really thought of global warming as a looming catastrophe or he would have behaved in a much more responsible professional manner, not putting at risk his loyal sub ordinate's election chances.

The Republican dominated corporate media knew Bush couldn't beat Al Gore on vision, experience, competence or the issues, the only way they stood a chance to make the race close enough to steal was on the nation's weariness of scandal and Clinton only aided them in this endeavor.

I believe the corporate media's primary motivation in slandering Al Gore, was in large measure due to the fact that he empowered the American People when he championed the Internet and as the Internet grew in power, they viewed and still view it as a threat to their monopoly on information. Information equals influence, power and money and they saw this as slipping away.

Today the same corporate media which carried out a near eight year witch hunt against both Clintons to some degree and transferred their zeal to a near two year "War Against Gore" just prior to the selection of 2000, while camouflaging Bush's obvious shortcomings, can't do enough to promote Hillary Clinton's candidacy and make Bill Clinton our nation's very first First Gentlemen. As for me, this doesn't pass the smell test.

* This incident reminds me of the 1992 Democratic Convention theme song by Fleetwood Mac "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow", I have ambivalent feelings about that song to this day, every time I hear it.

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  -Bill Clinton Rocked... DemocratSinceBirth  Aug-08-07 06:48 AM   #0 
  - You're pretty young, aren't you?  Tesha   Aug-08-07 06:53 AM   #1 
  - Clinton, sandwiched between the two Bushes, does look good, BUT  SoCalDem   Aug-08-07 06:56 AM   #2 
  - Settle down, Tesha  MethuenProgressive   Aug-08-07 06:57 AM   #3 
  - You settle down.  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:04 AM   #6 
  - "Clinton destroyed the Democratic party"? And yet Gore had more votes than *?  MethuenProgressive   Aug-08-07 07:06 AM   #9 
  - Gore didn't manage to become the President, did he? (NT)  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:07 AM   #12 
     - Because He Ran Away From Clinton In The General Election  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:13 AM   #15 
        - I disagree, Clinton ran away from Gore  Uncle Joe   Aug-09-07 05:16 PM   #141 
  - And how in the world do you believe President Bill Clinton to have destroyed the democratic  AuntPatsy   Aug-08-07 01:08 PM   #121 
  - Thanks...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:04 AM   #7 
     - who can argue with that then?  themartyred   Aug-08-07 01:10 PM   #122 
  - He Also Left Us With Breyer And Ginsburg  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:02 AM   #4 
  - My my...  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:07 AM   #11 
  - "Until the end of his term, ehh?"  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:11 AM   #14 
  - He's responsible *FOR* the *EXISTENCE* of the next tenant. (NT)  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:22 AM   #19 
     - He's Not Responsible For Gore and Kerry's Lackluster Campaigns...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:24 AM   #20 
        - And Monica and the blowjob had no effect either, right? (NT)  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:27 AM   #22 
           - He Wasn't On The Ballot  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:34 AM   #26 
           - Isn't the constant reference to blowjobs a rightwing tactic?  Fran Kubelik   Aug-08-07 09:14 AM   #63 
              - Insight.  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:23 AM   #69 
              - No, I wasn't suggesting you are a right-winger  Fran Kubelik   Aug-08-07 09:28 AM   #71 
                 - Thank you. (NT)  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:30 AM   #73 
                    - fyi  Fran Kubelik   Aug-08-07 09:31 AM   #75 
                       - Well, if I'm "misguided", ...  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:39 AM   #80 
                          - That's wonderful.  Fran Kubelik   Aug-08-07 09:41 AM   #82 
              - Yes. And it's all *somepeople* know about Bill Clinton  MethuenProgressive   Aug-08-07 06:14 PM   #133 
  - BLAME CLINTON!  Dragonbreathp9d   Aug-08-07 09:54 AM   #90 
  - for god's sake, he got a blow job and that enabled the GOP?  Hamlette   Aug-08-07 10:21 AM   #101 
  - I probably won't be seen claiming Kucinich is "infinitely better"...  Tesha   Aug-08-07 10:27 AM   #103 
     - I probably don't know as much as you do but something I do know is welfare reform and it has worked.  Hamlette   Aug-08-07 01:06 PM   #119 
        - How is the "racist death penalty" any different today?  Alexander   Aug-09-07 04:29 PM   #138 
           - you're kidding...right?  Hamlette   Aug-09-07 11:25 PM   #142 
  - Gore won  liberalpragmatist   Aug-08-07 01:56 PM   #126 
  - "He also left us with a nation where the gap between rich and poor was narrowing..."  whoisalhedges   Aug-08-07 10:01 AM   #94 
  - thank-you  Blue_Roses   Aug-08-07 10:04 AM   #96 
     - Your Welcome  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 11:04 AM   #109 
  - I'm not young and I'd take the Clinton years over anything during the past forty  onenote   Aug-08-07 07:20 AM   #17 
  - I think he meant immeadiatly  Dragonbreathp9d   Aug-08-07 09:52 AM   #89 
  - You're funny!  acmavm   Aug-08-07 07:03 AM   #5 
  - That's Probably The Same Response I Would Get At The "Other" Site For My Posting  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:05 AM   #8 
     - Well, if you find the truth ironic. The man was in the White House  acmavm   Aug-08-07 09:31 AM   #76 
        - Thank you!  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:45 AM   #85 
        - I Find It Ironic That If I Went  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 09:55 AM   #91 
           - yeah bad dem  sniffa   Aug-08-07 10:12 AM   #99 
           - Spend a lot of time on that other board, do you? I don't give a  acmavm   Aug-08-07 01:17 PM   #124 
              - I Apologize If I Offended You...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 04:28 PM   #130 
                 - I not only accept your apology, I am sorry too. I'd retype all the I typed in  acmavm   Aug-08-07 06:01 PM   #132 
  - "Infinitely better than what came before and after him."  HughBeaumont   Aug-08-07 07:06 AM   #10 
  - Don't forget welfare reform, the media consolidation act,...  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:10 AM   #13 
     - The movie "The Big One" touches on the less-than-rosy side of the Clinton years . . .  HughBeaumont   Aug-08-07 09:34 AM   #78 
     - here's another...  Neecy   Aug-08-07 09:37 AM   #79 
        - Thanks to both of you for extending my list! (NT)  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:50 AM   #86 
  - Big Dog was better then Bush .. Hilldog will be better also  mdmc   Aug-08-07 07:16 AM   #16 
  - With some luck.  Xap   Aug-08-07 07:20 AM   #18 
  - I think he was the best Repubican President we ever had. He took our party to the right  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 07:25 AM   #21 
  - Bingo!  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:27 AM   #23 
  - Hmmm  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:30 AM   #24 
  - He achieved what could be achieved in the environment he found himself in.. hmmm  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 07:33 AM   #25 
  - Democrats Were Running Away From That Label Long Befor Clinton  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:38 AM   #27 
  - The fact is that Clinton still did run away from it and in fact hurt the rest of us Liberals  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 07:41 AM   #30 
     - "..go ahead and start listing."  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:44 AM   #32 
        - he sure was great  mdmc   Aug-08-07 07:50 AM   #36 
        - So she'll be followed by *SIXTEEN YEARS* of Republican assholes? (NT)  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:53 AM   #37 
           - Thanks for the peek into the future.  ronnykmarshall   Aug-08-07 09:20 AM   #67 
        - thank you for that  ccpup   Aug-08-07 08:14 AM   #47 
        - Thank You...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 08:22 AM   #49 
        - You Win  NeedleCast   Aug-08-07 12:57 PM   #118 
  - And just one more thing. I don't give a shit if he had sex with 50 women or men for that  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 07:39 AM   #28 
     - How Did He Demonize Women With That Statement?  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:42 AM   #31 
        - He lied. (Or, if you prefer, "finessed the truth").  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:54 AM   #38 
        - I Don't Consider Oral Sex Sex...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:59 AM   #41 
           - Woody Allen. Don't knock masturbation - it's sex with someone I love.. nt  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 08:04 AM   #43 
           - Someday, your partner make think otherwise.  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:17 AM   #64 
           - I Can Theoretically Get A STD Through Kissing Someone Too  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 09:29 AM   #72 
              - Ask your partner; let me know what they think. (NT)  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:31 AM   #74 
                 - Some Folks Define All Non-Coital Behavior As Not Sex  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 10:43 AM   #106 
           - You're losing me here  Fran Kubelik   Aug-08-07 09:58 AM   #93 
              - I Apologize...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 10:30 AM   #105 
        - Three women could have forced him to resign  mdmc   Aug-08-07 07:55 AM   #39 
           - Are We Going To Relitigate Monicagate  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 08:03 AM   #42 
              - Actually, it could be argued that hundreds of thousands of Iraqis...  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:19 AM   #66 
                 - I Already Told You That Clinton Had A 60% Approval Rating During The 00 Election  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 09:32 AM   #77 
                 - Apparently, the people polled weren't the people voting.  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:41 AM   #83 
                    - Last Time I Checked  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 09:44 AM   #84 
                 - Talk about reaching, my God.  AuntPatsy   Aug-08-07 01:10 PM   #123 
                    - Okay, let's talk about the hundreds of thousands that Clinton *DIRECTLY* killed...  Tesha   Aug-09-07 04:23 PM   #135 
  - David Souter came from GHWB - a republican  mdmc   Aug-08-07 07:48 AM   #33 
  - Souter Was A Great Pick But Bush Also Gave Us Thomas And Kennedy  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:49 AM   #35 
  - You think pot smokers  JTFrog   Aug-08-07 08:04 AM   #44 
     - I Think He Was Being Sarcastic...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 08:11 AM   #46 
     - Surely that must be  Blue State Native   Aug-08-07 11:07 AM   #110 
     - I love your sig line  mdmc   Aug-09-07 08:07 AM   #134 
  - You really know *VERY LITTLE* about history. See "Earl Warren".  Tesha   Aug-08-07 07:48 AM   #34 
     - You Mean The Great Earl Warren Who Supported Japanese Internment As Governor In California During  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 07:56 AM   #40 
        - Yeah, but he also had something to do with Brown v Board of Education  Tesha   Aug-08-07 09:20 AM   #68 
           - Thank You ... I Took Con Law One And Con Law 2... I Did Post Grad Grad Work In Poli Sci...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 09:41 AM   #81 
  - Amen to that.  hedgehog   Aug-08-07 08:11 AM   #45 
  - So Now Clinton Is A Misogonyst And A Predator...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 08:17 AM   #48 
     - lol! I met a woman a couple of years ago who attended a birthday party for Hillary.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 08:36 AM   #50 
        - Well  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 08:43 AM   #51 
           - There's no accounting for taste. Also, there is a big difference between  hedgehog   Aug-08-07 10:06 AM   #97 
              - I Am Not Unconvinced That Bill Clinton Didn't Make An Entreaty To Paul Jones But Her Case Was  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 10:16 AM   #100 
                 - By her account, "entreaty" is putting it mildly.  hedgehog   Aug-08-07 10:28 AM   #104 
                    - No... I do not believe Bill Clinton acted the way she said he acted...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 10:50 AM   #107 
                       - #1. It's a he-said , she said situation, and one of them pretty clearly committed perjury  hedgehog   Aug-08-07 11:23 AM   #112 
                          - Because You Raised It...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 11:27 AM   #113 
  - I agree but with a point about Welfare Reform. As an older liberal Democrat I remember  CTyankee   Aug-08-07 08:48 AM   #53 
  - And that's why I said he was the Best Republican President we ever had. nt  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 08:56 AM   #56 
  - Does that make Nixon the best Democratic president we ever had?  CTyankee   Aug-08-07 09:03 AM   #57 
     - The logic is that for the most part he was kinder and gentler but his support  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 10:52 AM   #108 
        - Those were certainly mistakes, You forgot Ruanda. He's doing penance for ignoring that now.  CTyankee   Aug-08-07 11:37 AM   #115 
           - Did I say that I despise him? Please don't words in my mouth, thank you.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-07 11:56 AM   #116 
              - OK, fair enough, you resent him for redefining "left".  CTyankee   Aug-08-07 12:44 PM   #117 
  - One of Bill's big mistakes was waiting to do welfare reform until after '94  liberalpragmatist   Aug-08-07 02:02 PM   #127 
  - Baloney  OzarkDem   Aug-08-07 09:13 AM   #62 
  - Of course he rocked! Democrats know that.  William769   Aug-08-07 07:39 AM   #29 
  - I consider myself a pragmatic socialist  Fran Kubelik   Aug-08-07 09:27 AM   #70 
     - I Frankly Think If He Was On The Ballot In 08 He Would Kick Ass...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 09:52 AM   #88 
  - Sunshine and lollipops is how I remember it now...  Virginia Dare   Aug-08-07 08:47 AM   #52 
  - Hmmm  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 08:52 AM   #55 
  - And Hillary Clinton had nothing to do with it.  Stephanie   Aug-08-07 08:49 AM   #54 
  - True...what does Hillary have to do with the Clinton years?  Stuckinthebush   Aug-08-07 09:05 AM   #58 
  - Did you forget  mindfulNJ   Aug-08-07 09:06 AM   #59 
     - Please re-read the OP, and my post.  Stephanie   Aug-08-07 09:07 AM   #60 
  - He did a great job  OzarkDem   Aug-08-07 09:10 AM   #61 
  - Bill Clinton was and is a great citizen of the world, charismatic and  MasonJar   Aug-08-07 09:18 AM   #65 
  - Exactly  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 09:50 AM   #87 
  - I am 75 years old.  Bitwit1234   Aug-08-07 09:58 AM   #92 
  - You Would Like My Mom.. . She's 89 And Was A Stevenson Alternate Delegate...  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 10:04 AM   #95 
  - I agree with your assessment, esp. with regard to JFK  CTyankee   Aug-08-07 11:28 AM   #114 
  - I agree  bigtree   Aug-08-07 10:10 AM   #98 
  - I Hate To Quote Bush One  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 10:22 AM   #102 
  - Right on! And right now he is up only for First Gentleman!  treestar   Aug-08-07 11:08 AM   #111 
  - When you say..  mvd   Aug-08-07 01:07 PM   #120 
  - Clinton's + NAFTA = corporate whores  FreeStateDemocrat   Aug-08-07 01:19 PM   #125 
  - A perspective from a foreigner  socialdemocrat1981   Aug-08-07 03:22 PM   #128 
  - What A Paean  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-08-07 03:56 PM   #129 
  - Well stated!  HughMoran   Aug-09-07 04:30 PM   #139 
  - Pee Wee herman would have rocked between those two.  Forkboy   Aug-08-07 04:54 PM   #131 
  - I would give anything to feel like I did when Clinton was President  HughMoran   Aug-09-07 04:25 PM   #136 
  - Yes, NAFTA, welfare reform, Don't Ask Don't Tell and Somalia all "rocked".  Alexander   Aug-09-07 04:27 PM   #137 
  - More of the Clinton record  Perry Logan   Aug-09-07 04:36 PM   #140 

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