Solo_in_MD
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Wed Aug-08-07 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #84 |
| 86. Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) were the Salem witch trials of politics in the US. |
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Some of the first ones televised IIRC. We all should recall what paragons of virtue the participants were and the vast amount of truth uncovered. All those bad people exposed and blacklisted. Why should we believe that this committee will be any better? These kinds of public sessions are little more than media events. Any real investigation is done off camera and were completed some time ago.
CRS-32 states that under current law, the Congress can turn to the court to address intention not to comply. Its does not say it can turn to the court for evading service. The report could be incomplete, so feel free to look up the enabling legislation. Alternative means of service is allowed by many courts, and it varies somewhat, so conceivably the COmmittee could ask for that.
I still believe that this will all blow over soon enough in what will be an anticlimactic event when there are better sound bites for the pols to pursue.
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| -Where the hell is Lt. General Kensinger? I want his ass brought in for questioning. |
fooj |
Aug-06-07 03:14 PM |
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Are there any good hearings scheduled during the "break"? |
BuyingThyme |
Aug-06-07 03:16 PM |
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I don't think so. I just want to know where this f*cking coward is. |
fooj |
Aug-06-07 03:18 PM |
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Nobody asked the question. If it was "friendly fire" then |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-06-07 03:19 PM |
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How 'bout, "If there was no incoming fire, at whom was the 'friend' firing?" |
BuyingThyme |
Aug-06-07 03:21 PM |
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The cover is, the group got divided and wound up shooting |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-06-07 03:22 PM |
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No actually the cover story sounds very plausible |
truedelphi |
Aug-06-07 07:00 PM |
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Right -- and it falls apart when we learn the distance between |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-07-07 11:24 AM |
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Never thought of that, Great point! |
superkia |
Aug-06-07 10:50 PM |
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AWOL. |
shain from kane |
Aug-06-07 03:19 PM |
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Rep. Waxman will resume the Hearings in Sept. |
Disturbed |
Aug-06-07 03:23 PM |
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Won't be considered AWOL, if he is following his Commander-In-Chief's order. |
shain from kane |
Aug-06-07 03:34 PM |
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He is retired...he can not be AWOL: |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 06:28 PM |
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He Is Retired... And He Is A COWARD !!! |
WillyT |
Aug-07-07 11:48 PM |
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Good question Fooj and thanks for the post - I had no idea he skipped bail. |
shance |
Aug-06-07 03:23 PM |
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Well... |
Solly Mack |
Aug-06-07 03:23 PM |
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K&R..yes where is he? i want to know as well!!! eom |
flyarm |
Aug-06-07 03:39 PM |
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If the Army is hiding him, wouldn't that be aiding and abetting? Kick and Recommend! nt |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-06-07 03:45 PM |
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The Army punished him, I doubt they are hiding him |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 06:32 PM |
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Oh, I don't know about that. They knocked him down a star.... |
Kingshakabobo |
Aug-06-07 07:04 PM |
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dunno, that would tend to piss a guy off. He also retired, so the Army would not know where he is |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 07:07 PM |
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Did he skip the country? |
knitter4democracy |
Aug-06-07 03:48 PM |
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Nope. It's even worse than that. |
fooj |
Aug-06-07 05:21 PM |
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Not if he wasn't served |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 06:27 PM |
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'Green Zone' |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-07-07 05:05 AM |
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Which begs the question, can US Marshals get to the geen zone |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:33 AM |
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Hard to know if it will be "straight forward" |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-07-07 08:22 AM |
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He is retired |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 06:44 PM |
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and then what? |
radfringe |
Aug-06-07 03:49 PM |
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and then what? |
radfringe |
Aug-06-07 03:56 PM |
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Way To Reflect HONOR General! |
hootinholler |
Aug-06-07 03:57 PM |
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What??!! |
kenfrequed |
Aug-06-07 04:02 PM |
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They need to GPS his phone! |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-06-07 04:14 PM |
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Stan Goff's latest on the Tillman fratricide |
eridani |
Aug-06-07 04:20 PM |
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Thanks for the link. EXCELLENT read! |
fooj |
Aug-06-07 05:36 PM |
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"has evaded a subpoena issued by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform" |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-06-07 04:23 PM |
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"Business travel." |
fooj |
Aug-06-07 05:18 PM |
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On what charge? He has done illegal at this time |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 06:30 PM |
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Contempt of Congress |
me b zola |
Aug-07-07 02:48 AM |
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Can't be contempt until he is severd and does not appear |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:17 AM |
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Lt. General Philip Kensinger, Jr. (Ret) - Chief Operating Officer, Oak Grove Technologies |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-06-07 08:04 PM |
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Its a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 09:37 PM |
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No one said they were "exactly Blackwater". |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-07-07 12:17 AM |
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Did not mean to offend, but given the heat being generated |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 01:36 AM |
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Maybe Oak Grove has resemblance to Blackwater after all... |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-07-07 04:58 AM |
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Good find, intell and secuirty people, but no armed mercs |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:31 AM |
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I can't find a 'small business' NAICS code for COUNTERINTELLIGENCE and SECURITY in IRAQ |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-07-07 05:20 AM |
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The current NACIS list is from 2002, and was developed earlier, give the SBA a little time to catch |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:34 AM |
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Didn't you hear? None of them have to be held accountable for |
SaveAmerica |
Aug-06-07 05:47 PM |
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Somehow I doubt any personal actions you take are going to change anything in this scenario |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 06:16 PM |
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Personal actions? What's with your "projecting"? |
fooj |
Aug-07-07 02:00 AM |
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Kicking to keep this up, another important post today that should not be lost. |
AuntPatsy |
Aug-06-07 06:29 PM |
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Why...it was discussed here and elsewhere last week |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 06:43 PM |
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Who gives a crap if he's retired? |
fooj |
Aug-07-07 02:16 AM |
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My read of the thread indicated that many of the posters thought he was on active duty and ducking |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:25 AM |
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Some posters were talking about him being AWOL... |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:28 AM |
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Just because it was discussed last week on du does not mean that I or others saw it |
AuntPatsy |
Aug-08-07 06:52 PM |
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Haven't you heard? Republicans get a SPECIAL EXEMPTION |
kestrel91316 |
Aug-06-07 06:36 PM |
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Shouldn't MSM be looking for him |
malaise |
Aug-06-07 06:37 PM |
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can a general do that? |
Blue_Tires |
Aug-06-07 06:57 PM |
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He is retired, and as done nothing illegal in avoiding a subpeona |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 07:12 PM |
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what? |
druidity33 |
Aug-06-07 08:01 PM |
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He's on the run, evidently. |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-06-07 08:07 PM |
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He has not been served with the subpeona, so he is not in contempt |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 08:07 PM |
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He has not been served, because he chooses to "EVADE service" |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-06-07 08:19 PM |
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Presumably true, but its still not contempt |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-06-07 09:16 PM |
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The US Marshals were SENT after him to SERVE him with a subpoena. |
fooj |
Aug-07-07 02:12 AM |
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And until they serve him, he is not under any obligatgion to appear before the committee |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:21 AM |
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And until they serve him, any apearance by him is voluntary |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:26 AM |
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"travel on your own dime" |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-07-07 08:08 AM |
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My view of the end game is that this will fizzle out |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 07:30 PM |
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Apparently, he wasn't disgraced enough. |
fooj |
Aug-08-07 07:59 PM |
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I dare state that these hearing are showboating based on historical example and precedent |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 08:13 PM |
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And I SUGGEST that you stop with your condescending blather... |
fooj |
Aug-08-07 09:06 PM |
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I won't apologize for defending the civil rights of the despicable since it also defends them for |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 09:18 PM |
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You finally said it! DESPICABLE. |
fooj |
Aug-08-07 09:39 PM |
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at some point they can issue a bench warrant, no? |
Snazzy |
Aug-07-07 05:27 AM |
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No they can not. Congress can not issue warrants, that is reserved for the courts |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-07-07 07:23 AM |
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While you're busy defending the actions of this coward... |
fooj |
Aug-07-07 04:02 PM |
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exactly |
Snazzy |
Aug-07-07 11:40 PM |
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Not defending him, just pointing out factual inaccuracies and hyperbole |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 07:05 PM |
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uh, yeah, Please excuse my ill considered use of "they" |
Snazzy |
Aug-07-07 11:38 PM |
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Thanks, Snazzy. Mighty interesting. |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-08-07 06:38 PM |
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Right on! |
fooj |
Aug-08-07 07:09 PM |
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He still fails to understand the due process requirements |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 07:40 PM |
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Cite what you claim. |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-08-07 07:51 PM |
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Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) were the Salem witch trials of politics in the US. |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 08:04 PM |
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I see. You cannot or will not cite the material that you pretend exists. |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-08-07 08:41 PM |
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My claims are good, but you do not seem to be aware of a bedrock principle of English/Am. common law |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 10:00 PM |
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why all the congress needs to do is trace where he has gone with his passport!! |
flyarm |
Aug-08-07 11:47 PM |
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You misunderstand the process |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 06:47 PM |
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What a crock of shit. |
fooj |
Aug-08-07 07:35 PM |
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Which is all you get from televised committee hearing...they are effectively staged and scripted |
Solo_in_MD |
Aug-08-07 07:49 PM |
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Congress Contempt Power: |
fooj |
Aug-08-07 09:00 PM |
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You make my point |
Snazzy |
Aug-09-07 12:55 AM |
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Maybe he's using this "free time" to help plan Bush's martial law coup! |
calipendence |
Aug-07-07 02:04 AM |
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B*sh can't recall on Tillman |
fooj |
Aug-09-07 01:33 PM |
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Name removed |
Aug-09-07 02:08 PM |
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Army reprimands in Tillman case mild. |
fooj |
Aug-10-07 09:15 PM |
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