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| 71. After considering the phenomenon carefully, I have come to the |
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conclusion that some of our most relevant dems are being threatened. Conyers' backdown is hard to decipher any other way. I saw Bush's first Sec of the Treasury on Charlie Rose after he had written a tell all book and he explained to Rose that he was well-to-do and old so he had nothing to fear. However, he never was heard from again after that interview. I am confident that his grandchildren that he spoke so lovingly of were threatened the very next day. There seems to be no other explanation for Conyers; he was too on top of this whole situation. They ignored him and relegated him to the basement until he was chairman.
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| -A list of Benedict Arnold Democrats - and the Democrats who will challenge them in '08 |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 11:36 AM |
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I have recommende this post |
burythehatchet |
Aug-05-07 11:39 AM |
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Thank you... |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 11:46 AM |
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Do you think some 'Democrats' could be part of a GOP sleeper cell strategy? |
bananarepublican |
Aug-06-07 05:09 AM |
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I would say they are cowards against power. They know who has the power |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 08:59 AM |
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yes I agree with this post completely. |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-05-07 12:50 PM |
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Kick! |
nradisic |
Aug-05-07 11:46 AM |
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K&R....We have to fix our party from within or we're in trouble. |
TroubleMan |
Aug-05-07 11:47 AM |
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Agree totally, but how? Maybe identify and isolate those that are corporatist sympathizers |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 08:57 AM |
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Geez! |
ananda |
Aug-05-07 11:48 AM |
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Some might also claim it's the power of the DLC |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 11:52 AM |
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As long as |
vpilot |
Aug-05-07 11:52 AM |
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I'm curious |
ProudDad |
Aug-06-07 12:07 AM |
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Well the party has limited resources |
bryant69 |
Aug-05-07 11:53 AM |
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I vote for "NONE AT PRESENT" (reminds me of a one-party state) |
Kip Humphrey |
Aug-05-07 11:51 AM |
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You're not going to get radical progressives in most of these seats |
KingFlorez |
Aug-05-07 11:57 AM |
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are those the only choices? |
rucky |
Aug-05-07 12:01 PM |
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If not a radical progressive, then how about an honest-to-goodness Democrat? |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 12:02 PM |
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Quite right, K&R. |
dickbearton |
Aug-05-07 03:32 PM |
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Still wouldn't get that here. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-05-07 04:09 PM |
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SEVENTY PERCENT of the American people oppose the Iraq War and want it ended. |
Peace Patriot |
Aug-05-07 12:39 PM |
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And these people aren't elected by the entire American population. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-05-07 04:15 PM |
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want the United States to pull out of the UN... hate the French, love their flags and hate |
Truth2Tell |
Aug-05-07 09:19 PM |
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Won't get that here. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-05-07 11:41 PM |
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How many are willing to get off their dead asses and do something, anything, even vote |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 09:01 AM |
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not the way this county is moving |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-05-07 01:11 PM |
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We don't need a radical progressive, just someone who respects the rule of law and Constitution... |
Solon |
Aug-05-07 10:43 PM |
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If you analyze the last election, progressives (not radicals) did very well, and |
John Q. Citizen |
Aug-06-07 12:16 AM |
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I don't believe this country is all that conservative either |
KingFlorez |
Aug-06-07 12:29 AM |
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I don't doubt that. but I also believe that many of those districts (not all) |
John Q. Citizen |
Aug-06-07 12:54 AM |
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Pera's website is great. |
rucky |
Aug-05-07 12:01 PM |
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Do you post elsewhere? |
Opposite Reaction |
Aug-05-07 12:04 PM |
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Y'know, that's a wonderful idea |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 12:16 PM |
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OK Howard It's up to you. Find us some true PATRIOTS to run against |
dkofos |
Aug-05-07 12:08 PM |
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Kick... |
AzDar |
Aug-05-07 12:11 PM |
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K&R |
Skidmore |
Aug-05-07 12:19 PM |
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So for the way they voted on 3 issues, |
Gman |
Aug-05-07 12:46 PM |
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Actually, OP'er would have a very liberal Dem run against them. Not just someone |
cryingshame |
Aug-05-07 12:57 PM |
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Many similar posts are being done by people with no star, less than 1000 posts |
Gman |
Aug-05-07 01:33 PM |
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Yes, this place has been crawling with trolls ever since last night. |
Raksha |
Aug-05-07 06:42 PM |
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Since last night? |
Forkboy |
Aug-05-07 07:19 PM |
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I know they've been here all along! |
Raksha |
Aug-06-07 01:39 AM |
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We'll never see universal healthcare if they keep bowing |
Mythsaje |
Aug-05-07 01:01 PM |
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but they are such important issues. |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-05-07 01:15 PM |
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"5 times as many people die from lack of health care"? |
ima_sinnic |
Aug-05-07 03:48 PM |
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Heh, heh, heh... there's some of us here that have more than one or two facets |
Gman |
Aug-05-07 04:01 PM |
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YOU are the one fixated on health care above all else |
ima_sinnic |
Aug-05-07 04:47 PM |
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Well known facts? Oh, really? |
Gman |
Aug-05-07 06:05 PM |
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Repeat after me...very slowly... |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 04:37 PM |
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My opinion is that we have a dictatorship or the closest we've ever come to it.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Aug-05-07 04:58 PM |
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Agreed. |
progressoid |
Aug-05-07 09:20 PM |
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I strongly disagree with your assessment. The most important issues |
rhett o rick |
Aug-05-07 11:03 PM |
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Your list is Iraq war/WOT related |
Gman |
Aug-06-07 10:46 AM |
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Your list only had two issues. But the point isn't that they aren't supporting Democratic issues |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 03:44 PM |
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Surely you jest |
Gman |
Aug-06-07 05:23 PM |
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The Republcans stole the 2000 election and the 2004 election, so why is it so hard |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 10:39 PM |
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bean`s district is one of he wealthiest in the chicago land area |
madrchsod |
Aug-05-07 12:50 PM |
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I know someone who lives in Bean's district .... |
greatauntoftriplets |
Aug-05-07 02:46 PM |
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thanks-- i thought that was the deal up there |
madrchsod |
Aug-05-07 04:33 PM |
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Ugh, it's like a steambath out there today. |
greatauntoftriplets |
Aug-05-07 05:29 PM |
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Y'know, there used to be a lot of people who said Lieberman could never be defeated |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 04:56 PM |
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Except that Lieberman won the election. |
greatauntoftriplets |
Aug-05-07 05:29 PM |
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As I just said... |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 05:39 PM |
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my sentiments exactly....nt k&nom |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-05-07 12:52 PM |
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yeah- Alabama, Mississipi and Utah are SUCH liberal bastions... |
cryingshame |
Aug-05-07 12:54 PM |
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Alabama does have liberals... |
dbonds |
Aug-05-07 04:04 PM |
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(IL-3) Daniel Lipinski |
madrchsod |
Aug-05-07 12:57 PM |
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You're correct, Lipinski will win the GE in a walkover. The Pukes |
mohinoaklawnillinois |
Aug-05-07 03:30 PM |
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i`m not sure if people here at du understand the |
madrchsod |
Aug-05-07 04:30 PM |
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Perhaps we just don't care... |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 05:01 PM |
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I cannot bring myself to vote for any Republican. |
mohinoaklawnillinois |
Aug-05-07 06:25 PM |
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By 2008 |
creeksneakers2 |
Aug-05-07 12:58 PM |
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K & R! |
sojourner |
Aug-05-07 01:00 PM |
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sorry to see only 2 contenders to support and send money to. |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-05-07 01:03 PM |
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39th Rec on this thread....thank you for the info. |
Hepburn |
Aug-05-07 02:36 PM |
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I have to ask about your use of "Benedict Arnold" |
TechBear_Seattle |
Aug-05-07 03:25 PM |
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Probably their constituents. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-05-07 04:18 PM |
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Simple way to find out. |
zonmoy |
Aug-06-07 09:47 AM |
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Most Of Those Congressmen Could Run As Indys Or GOPUERS and Win... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-05-07 03:37 PM |
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I live in Floridas' 2nd district |
angrycarpenter |
Aug-05-07 03:54 PM |
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But are you surprised? |
onenote |
Aug-05-07 05:30 PM |
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Thank you! |
il_lilac |
Aug-05-07 03:54 PM |
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Glad I could do my part to help |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 05:09 PM |
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Deja vu all over again |
NoPasaran |
Aug-05-07 04:21 PM |
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Kick! |
LeftyCanuck |
Aug-05-07 04:27 PM |
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We need to popularize the notion of "losing forward" |
eridani |
Aug-05-07 04:29 PM |
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Indiana's Dan Burton??? |
raven880 |
Aug-05-07 04:46 PM |
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I don't think he has a Democratic primary challenger, either |
derby378 |
Aug-05-07 05:15 PM |
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Burton |
PhilipDC |
Aug-06-07 08:38 AM |
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North Dakotans fear change. |
Chichiri |
Aug-05-07 04:53 PM |
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I pray plenty of Democrats will run against these people! |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Aug-05-07 04:57 PM |
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well it's obvious those two should lose then |
themartyred |
Aug-05-07 05:11 PM |
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Thanks for posting |
Geek_Girl |
Aug-05-07 05:17 PM |
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I have no problem if someone wants to mount a primary challenge |
onenote |
Aug-05-07 05:32 PM |
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Nancy Boyda (KS-2) voted against it. |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-05-07 09:32 PM |
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my district is not that red |
hfojvt |
Aug-07-07 02:10 AM |
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Thank you for posting this list. I'm going to save it and print it out |
Raksha |
Aug-05-07 05:47 PM |
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After considering the phenomenon carefully, I have come to the |
MasonJar |
Aug-05-07 06:03 PM |
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This post should be pinned to the top of the front page. |
Usrename |
Aug-05-07 07:01 PM |
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Here's the complete roll-call |
democrat2thecore |
Aug-05-07 07:07 PM |
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Dan Boren (D-OK) - Add him to the list! |
democrat2thecore |
Aug-05-07 07:08 PM |
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Me like this post. |
Forkboy |
Aug-05-07 07:20 PM |
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Someone should warn the challengers how quickly Democrats turn on one another. |
Perry Logan |
Aug-05-07 07:23 PM |
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Heath Effing Shuler, NC-11 |
Spiffarino |
Aug-05-07 07:55 PM |
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recommended and kicked |
B Calm |
Aug-05-07 09:04 PM |
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Ask the challengers about FISA |
jfern |
Aug-05-07 09:34 PM |
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41 House Dems Tremble Before the Mighty Bush |
redacted |
Aug-05-07 10:45 PM |
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Contact the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee |
Krashkopf |
Aug-05-07 11:02 PM |
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Welcome Krashkopf! |
AllyCat |
Aug-05-07 11:05 PM |
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It is impossible to replace these traitors. The state and national Democratic |
rhett o rick |
Aug-05-07 11:07 PM |
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Lieberman was the first. The next will be successful, or the next. starting with House cleaning |
yurbud |
Aug-05-07 11:10 PM |
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You're right, cleaning House isn't the same thing. |
Usrename |
Aug-05-07 11:50 PM |
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He did what Dem leaders fail to do: took a long shot stand on principle, knowing it would |
yurbud |
Aug-06-07 01:30 AM |
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Throwing out incumbents is not so easy, see my post below # 112. |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 08:50 AM |
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Thanks for posting this. |
Eric J in MN |
Aug-05-07 11:59 PM |
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this post is so much better than mindless ranting |
Enrique |
Aug-06-07 01:18 AM |
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One thing to add if possible is the number of terms incumbents have |
Norquist Nemesis |
Aug-06-07 02:45 AM |
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I think it is time to start a liberal blog party. |
angryxyouth |
Aug-06-07 08:11 AM |
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Thank you for this excellent list! |
CrispyQGirl |
Aug-06-07 08:12 AM |
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This list needs to be a permanent resource on the front page (nt) |
Ian_rd |
Aug-06-07 08:40 AM |
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People still don't get it |
disndat |
Aug-06-07 08:43 AM |
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I absolutely hate seeing some of the names on that list, BUT |
The Stranger |
Aug-06-07 08:45 AM |
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Lieberman / Lamont contest showed us how extremely hard it is to replace |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 08:49 AM |
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Good points all. |
The Stranger |
Aug-06-07 08:56 AM |
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TOUGH DECISION HERE>....... |
happygoluckytoyou |
Aug-06-07 10:24 AM |
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I couldn't disagree with you more. The worst of the worst are not those that are your enemy, |
rhett o rick |
Aug-06-07 02:19 PM |
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Like this? |
bonito |
Aug-06-07 10:40 AM |
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Hey, that works, too |
derby378 |
Aug-07-07 11:41 AM |
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If Voting Could Change The System |
Forrest Greene |
Aug-06-07 11:06 AM |
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Who voted you Democratic Whip? |
19jet54 |
Aug-06-07 11:29 AM |
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Before you judge me, take a good look at those three votes... |
derby378 |
Aug-06-07 06:02 PM |
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I understand... |
19jet54 |
Aug-06-07 06:47 PM |
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I sort of agree with what you are saying, but I would rephrase it. |
Usrename |
Aug-07-07 02:00 AM |
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Joe Lieberman |
19jet54 |
Aug-07-07 11:07 AM |
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It's cool |
derby378 |
Aug-07-07 11:32 AM |
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Damn. I gave money to Stephanie Herseth, helped her get in, in a |
calimary |
Aug-07-07 02:09 AM |
#131 |