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The New Frontier (A Question)
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{1} The New Frontier (Kahlil Gibran; 1925)

"Are you a politician
asking what your country can do for you
or a zealous one
asking what you can do for your country?
If you are the first,
then you are a parasite;
if you are the second,
then you are an oasis in the desert."


{2} The New Frontier (defined by John F. Kennedy)

"Too many Americans have lost their way, their will and their sense of historic purpose. It is a time, in short, for a new generation of leadership -- new men to cope with new problems and new opportunities. .... I stand tonight facing west on what was once the last frontier. From the lands that stretch three thousand miles behind me, the pioneers of old gave up their safety, their comfort, and sometimes their lives to build a new world here in the West. They were not the captives of their own doubts ....

"We stand today on the edge of a New Frontier .... a frontier of unknown opportunities and perils -- a frontier of unfulfilled hopes and threats. The New Frontier of which I speak is not a set of promises -- it is a set of challenges. It sums up not what I intend to offer the American people, but what I intend to ask of them .... Can a nation organized and governed such as ours endure? That is the real question. Have we the nerve and the will? .... Are we up to the task -- are we equal to the challenge? .... That is the question of the New Frontier. That is the choice our nation must make -- a choice ... between the public interest and the private comfort -- between national greatness and national decline .... All mankind waits upon our decision. A whole world looks to see what we will do. We cannot fail their trust, we cannot fail to try."


My question is: What does the idea of a "New Frontier" mean to you? There is no right or wrong answer; I am only asking what you think about this. And I will offer my own brief opinion ....

I believe that the USA entered a new and dangerous era when the Bush-Cheney administration assumed power in 2001. I think that their taking power was a consequence of a series of events that had been in motion for decades -- a progression in a direction that is very different than what I believe our Constitutional democracy should be heading.

I believe that the strength of the democratic party is found primarily at the grass roots level. I do not think it is as evident in Washington, DC as it is in the other cities and towns and rural areas of this nation. I think Gibran's term "parasite" is, sadly, an accurate description of the politicians in all three branches of our federal government. I prefer the zealous ones that he speaks of.

I am convinced that the possibility of a New Frontier is only going to be opened up by the grass roots progressives. That is not to say there are not a few good and decent elected officials in the congress. But it is my opinion that they are not able to institute the changes that are needed, as Kennedy noted, to move us in the direction of national greatness rather than national decline.

There are, of course, very real differences between the demands of the grass roots progressives, and the ability of even those few decent politicians to deliver. And there are far greater differences between the grass roots and the majority in congress. That has become more evident in the past week.

"This is what separated us from you; we made demands. You were satisfied to serve the power of your nation, and we dreamed of giving ours her truth." -- Albert Camus



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  -The New Frontier (A Question) H2O Man  Aug-05-07 07:32 AM   #0 
  - I like the Camus quote  Solly Mack   Aug-05-07 07:54 AM   #1 
  - Well, then,  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 08:01 AM   #2 
     - Tailor - made for me :)  Solly Mack   Aug-05-07 08:10 AM   #3 
  - It Should Never Have Happened  Me.   Aug-05-07 08:53 AM   #4 
  - Though I share  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 08:58 AM   #5 
     - Now That's Interesting  Me.   Aug-05-07 09:08 AM   #7 
     - He who bemoans  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 09:13 AM   #10 
     - Can't fix the problem unless you see it for what it is...exactly  Solly Mack   Aug-05-07 09:09 AM   #8 
  - Thanks, H2O Man.  speedoo   Aug-05-07 09:03 AM   #6 
  - That is  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 09:10 AM   #9 
  - My friend, it's always a pleasure...  speedoo   Aug-05-07 09:21 AM   #11 
     - Charles Schultz wisdom.  warrior1   Aug-05-07 09:31 AM   #12 
        - Aah Lucy!  Me.   Aug-05-07 10:01 AM   #14 
  - I tend to see it even more in FDR's SOTU speech in 1941 ... when he articulated the "Four Freedoms."  TahitiNut   Aug-05-07 05:43 PM   #51 
     - It's very troubling that our country has abandoned that course.  speedoo   Aug-05-07 11:07 PM   #75 
  - This 'New Frontier', this historical moment in time  rosesaylavee   Aug-05-07 09:52 AM   #13 
  - I think that  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 10:49 AM   #16 
     - The crisis has changed us  rosesaylavee   Aug-05-07 11:10 AM   #20 
        - Because we are human,  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 04:50 PM   #39 
  - This post is a boost this dark morning....  KoKo01   Aug-05-07 10:03 AM   #15 
  - I can remember  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 10:57 AM   #18 
  - and i will simply add...  tomp   Aug-06-07 12:49 AM   #78 
  - Thanks H2O Man  malaise   Aug-05-07 10:55 AM   #17 
  - I was hoping  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 03:25 PM   #30 
  - Unfortunately, we live in a non-participant "democracy".  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-05-07 11:06 AM   #19 
  - It seems to me  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 01:33 PM   #27 
  - There are glimmers of hope, even still.  riderinthestorm   Aug-05-07 11:26 AM   #21 
  - In order to get  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 11:39 AM   #22 
  - Yes, we definitely need to understand our strengths and weaknesses  riderinthestorm   Aug-05-07 11:59 AM   #24 
     - One of the things  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 01:39 PM   #28 
  - As To Move-On  Me.   Aug-05-07 12:07 PM   #26 
  - Forgive me if this is way off target.  Gregorian   Aug-05-07 11:43 AM   #23 
  - I think that  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 04:36 PM   #34 
  - When that vehicle, wherein we've gone asleep at the wheel, is headed into the ditch ...  TahitiNut   Aug-05-07 06:06 PM   #56 
     - Right.  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 08:09 PM   #66 
     - And when that car is veering off the road to the right, we need to take a hard left ...  antigop   Aug-05-07 08:13 PM   #67 
  - I don't know how you change the people in government  Annces   Aug-05-07 12:05 PM   #25 
  - There are a number of posts  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 07:14 PM   #60 
  - Interesting discussion in this thread  DemReadingDU   Aug-05-07 02:05 PM   #29 
  - A quote:  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 04:10 PM   #31 
  - Principles  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 04:22 PM   #32 
  - That is beautiful-  BeHereNow   Aug-05-07 04:45 PM   #38 
  - . . . here's some neutralizing energy  stellanoir   Aug-05-07 05:06 PM   #42 
     - Thanks for that! I just watched it and passed the link on to others.  BeHereNow   Aug-05-07 05:33 PM   #49 
     - Great!  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 05:40 PM   #50 
  - Lincoln  Me.   Aug-05-07 04:34 PM   #33 
  - Very good.  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 07:31 PM   #61 
  - "greater differences between the grass roots and the majority in congress." And that is our work.  BeHereNow   Aug-05-07 04:36 PM   #35 
  - One of the nicest  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 07:34 PM   #62 
  - The "New Frontier" to me is the same one it was in the beginning.  annabanana   Aug-05-07 04:38 PM   #36 
  - "A real revelation  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 07:53 PM   #63 
  - Here's what the words "new frontier" mean to me:  Shine   Aug-05-07 04:43 PM   #37 
  - That is the centermost core of it.  Gregorian   Aug-05-07 05:30 PM   #48 
  - Have you seen this yet, Gregorian? It's very uplifting...  Shine   Aug-05-07 05:48 PM   #53 
     - I see.  Gregorian   Aug-05-07 08:35 PM   #71 
        - I'm happy to stand in cyber circle with you, my friend.  Shine   Aug-05-07 09:03 PM   #72 
  - That's it.  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 07:54 PM   #64 
  - I kind of think Michael Moore got it right in "Sicko"....  antigop   Aug-05-07 08:18 PM   #68 
  - Mr. Sellack  blogslut   Aug-05-07 04:54 PM   #40 
  - "With this faith  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 08:03 PM   #65 
  - Great.....thanks  spanone   Aug-05-07 04:55 PM   #41 
  - Here are quotes from Dorothy Day  rosesaylavee   Aug-05-07 05:07 PM   #43 
  - Have you ever heard how the word "fear" is actually an acronym?  Shine   Aug-05-07 05:10 PM   #44 
  - That's right  rosesaylavee   Aug-05-07 05:25 PM   #46 
  - For You Rose  Me.   Aug-05-07 05:19 PM   #45 
  - Thanks Me!  rosesaylavee   Aug-05-07 05:27 PM   #47 
  - Dorothy Day was a good friend of my parents  Annces   Aug-05-07 07:08 PM   #59 
     - How lucky you were to have that contact with her!  rosesaylavee   Aug-05-07 10:26 PM   #73 
  - I remember the end of the Apollo program...  AntiFascist   Aug-05-07 05:44 PM   #52 
  - Rastaman Vibrations  H2O Man   Aug-05-07 05:51 PM   #54 
  - I'm feelin' irie....  Shine   Aug-05-07 05:57 PM   #55 
  - I had to take a moment to clear the blur from teary eyes after reading the JFK quote.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Aug-05-07 06:06 PM   #57 
  - Thanks for reminding me of the good energy.  donkeyotay   Aug-05-07 07:06 PM   #58 
  - For me The New Frontier, may only be exist-able just beyond a fossil fuel based economy...  bridgit   Aug-05-07 08:24 PM   #69 
  - M. Moore:"The main thing is don't be depressed. That's exactly what those in power want you to do."  antigop   Aug-05-07 08:28 PM   #70 
  - How about the Kingston Trio, sung in JFK's time?  tomreedtoon   Aug-05-07 10:39 PM   #74 
  - The New Frontier isn’t a place.  Octafish   Aug-05-07 11:49 PM   #76 
     - !  Me.   Aug-05-07 11:52 PM   #77 
     - The Power of Ideas.  H2O Man   Aug-06-07 06:18 AM   #79 
 

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