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Sun Aug-05-07 02:26 AM
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| 91. Radicals only existed after 1946. |
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The ones before were agrarian-comfy.
It was easy to be a radical before '39. Moreso before '46.
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| -I'm sticking with the Dems, and I'm a good progressive. Here's why that's true. |
WilliamPitt |
Aug-04-07 11:01 AM |
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we're a captive electorate nt |
shireen |
Aug-04-07 11:02 AM |
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"Radicals like Clinton"? |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-04-07 11:07 AM |
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The Dems are certainly tools, I'll give you that. |
deutsey |
Aug-04-07 11:08 AM |
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I share your perspective on that n/t |
independentpiney |
Aug-04-07 11:20 AM |
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Clinton, Clinton, rah, rah, rah, |
IChing |
Aug-04-07 11:10 AM |
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I was a bit puzzled by that, too, but just chose to make my larger point |
deutsey |
Aug-04-07 11:12 AM |
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Same here. I will vote Democrat no matter what, but Clinton? Radical? Not. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Aug-04-07 11:14 AM |
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Not Clinton personally...he is certainly no radical. |
Raksha |
Aug-05-07 01:26 AM |
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I think the point is that he was radical compared to the current bunch in office |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-05-07 02:08 AM |
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I would rather.. |
sendero |
Aug-04-07 11:10 AM |
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Not defeat. Just not having had victory *yet*. Very different. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-04-07 11:11 AM |
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I don't see |
warrior1 |
Aug-04-07 11:12 AM |
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I don't agree. It the people exercised a tenth of their power |
debbierlus |
Aug-04-07 11:14 AM |
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I hope Will that you're submitting this to The Onion. Clinton "radical". |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-04-07 11:14 AM |
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Why do you think they tried to impeach him? |
dickbearton |
Aug-05-07 04:04 PM |
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Great Post! |
RDANGELO |
Aug-04-07 11:16 AM |
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Nice rant. But what are you going to work with? A party with no spine, |
acmavm |
Aug-04-07 11:17 AM |
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Why talk to Dems.. |
dickbearton |
Aug-05-07 04:22 PM |
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It's not a "setback", Will - it's a surrender |
hatrack |
Aug-04-07 11:19 AM |
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Politicians don't make revolutions. They follow the lead of the people. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-04-07 11:19 AM |
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hear hear! I'll drink to that! |
AZDemDist6 |
Aug-04-07 11:28 AM |
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Remember the name of this website! |
CTyankee |
Aug-05-07 11:39 AM |
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Well Said, As Always |
NeedleCast |
Aug-04-07 11:31 AM |
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Not me! |
opusprime |
Aug-04-07 11:31 AM |
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The Dems Had Better Nip THIS In The Bud, Or It Will Be All Over But The Shouting !!! |
WillyT |
Aug-04-07 11:36 AM |
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You're right, this isn't getting much attention. |
avrdream |
Aug-04-07 08:00 PM |
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So in other words: Party before country. Go Team Go. Rah Rah Rah. |
Beelzebud |
Aug-04-07 11:38 AM |
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Bingo. And your words are so much easier on the eyes and the brain. n/t |
Seabiscuit |
Aug-04-07 01:02 PM |
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Pretty much, yeah. |
Marr |
Aug-05-07 09:34 AM |
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I am in for the duration. NGU. But it looks to me like we have gone past the tripping point. |
rhett o rick |
Aug-04-07 11:41 AM |
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"We have to win in 2008, and in 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032 and more..." |
ProSense |
Aug-04-07 11:44 AM |
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I approve of the way you immediately got into and explaned the |
higher class |
Aug-04-07 12:05 PM |
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You see this as the chickens coming home to roost from all that. |
Cleita |
Aug-04-07 12:06 PM |
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And I also ask YOU what I've asked elsewhere: how many lives is your wait and see faith worth? |
Exiled in America |
Aug-04-07 12:16 PM |
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The Democrats are all we have |
EndlessMaze |
Aug-04-07 12:40 PM |
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Nice post and welcome to DU! |
Laurab |
Aug-04-07 01:11 PM |
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That's not even remotely good enough. That is the rheotric of appeasement. |
Exiled in America |
Aug-05-07 10:36 AM |
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Great post! Those questions certainly DO deserve an answer. n/t |
NotGivingUp |
Aug-05-07 09:58 AM |
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Security Economy |
suffragette |
Aug-04-07 12:39 PM |
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Best Post In This Thread |
some guy |
Aug-05-07 12:43 PM |
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Appreciate your reply, some guy. But it's Will's OP that prompted |
suffragette |
Aug-05-07 01:22 PM |
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Now, I understand the hatred for Bill Clinton |
zalinda |
Aug-04-07 12:43 PM |
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That's not at all why they hated Bill Clinton.. |
Ghost in the Machine |
Aug-04-07 02:10 PM |
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But Clinton didn't pull the rug in 92...Ross Perot did |
EndlessMaze |
Aug-05-07 03:41 AM |
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See Ralph Nader, 2000 |
Stuckinthebush |
Aug-05-07 08:33 AM |
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I don't remember a President Perot in the 90's |
Ghost in the Machine |
Aug-05-07 12:33 PM |
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The "big picture" has to include IMPEACHMENT; the first responsibility to protect the Constitution - |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-07 02:36 PM |
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Radicals like Clinton have shown me what is possible |
Truth2Tell |
Aug-04-07 01:00 PM |
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That's a long winded rationalization for not even getting a reach around,once again. |
Forkboy |
Aug-04-07 01:16 PM |
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Read: "Democrats Responsibility for Bush Radicalism..." |
KoKo01 |
Aug-04-07 01:30 PM |
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Maybe the evil ones have made it clear |
femrap |
Aug-04-07 08:46 PM |
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Here's my take on this: |
LongTomH |
Aug-04-07 01:36 PM |
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My idea of a revolution differs a bit |
blues90 |
Aug-04-07 01:54 PM |
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I totally agree. I know that the actions of the dems sometimes are |
MasonJar |
Aug-04-07 02:11 PM |
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Drive by? or just way lagged? nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-04-07 02:16 PM |
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Good Post, And May I Add: WE WOULDN'T HAVE A PRAYER IF IT WEREN'T |
Beetwasher |
Aug-04-07 02:21 PM |
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Yes - Clinton was a radical |
KT2000 |
Aug-04-07 02:23 PM |
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About Radicals |
Truth2Tell |
Aug-04-07 02:27 PM |
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GLOBAL WARMING is a truer reality than the fabricated MIC/cold warriors -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-07 02:35 PM |
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Hooray Will, you said it. Trillions in surplus was the scariest thing ever |
HamdenRice |
Aug-04-07 02:36 PM |
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Except with one stolen election, there is no longer a surplus but a bankrupted Treasury -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-04-07 02:39 PM |
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I remember that surplus.... |
femrap |
Aug-04-07 08:55 PM |
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You nailed it - I just said the same thing in different words |
Raksha |
Aug-05-07 01:41 AM |
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Thanks, Will. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Aug-04-07 02:45 PM |
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"This party is my tool, nothing more." |
mzmolly |
Aug-04-07 02:45 PM |
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If we are going to survive as a political party, the DLC members |
B Calm |
Aug-04-07 02:48 PM |
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Great essay Will but I don't think we have decades... |
Altean Wanderer |
Aug-04-07 02:52 PM |
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Will, don't you get tired of having to write a long post defending them every 2 weeks? |
Finnfan |
Aug-04-07 03:02 PM |
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So you won't admit when you're being Mutt 'n' Jeff'ed to death. |
Usrename |
Aug-04-07 03:06 PM |
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Clinton a radical? |
eridani |
Aug-04-07 03:48 PM |
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The Clintons, if elected will guarantee... |
Larry Ogg |
Aug-04-07 04:46 PM |
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Amerika needs a multi-Party System! |
Disturbed |
Aug-04-07 05:52 PM |
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Yup your right the two party system sucks, especially when it looks like this. |
Larry Ogg |
Aug-05-07 11:04 AM |
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I will work for, give the maximum |
liberalnurse |
Aug-04-07 06:36 PM |
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That’s nice, and because of NAFTA |
Larry Ogg |
Aug-05-07 11:41 AM |
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One Party with two faces, nothing more. History show quite clearly how this will end. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-04-07 04:56 PM |
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I'm not sure how best to Thank You for this piece Will |
proud patriot |
Aug-04-07 05:20 PM |
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All it would take is for one Dem Prez to break her/his contract with the devil, |
Zorra |
Aug-04-07 06:04 PM |
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Interesting essay. |
H2O Man |
Aug-04-07 06:09 PM |
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Radicals only existed after 1946. |
WilliamPitt |
Aug-05-07 02:26 AM |
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I would suggest |
H2O Man |
Aug-05-07 05:30 AM |
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kick |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Aug-04-07 06:54 PM |
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Thanks! I agree. N/T |
mirrera |
Aug-04-07 07:58 PM |
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The only game in town |
cachukis |
Aug-04-07 08:05 PM |
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I hear you loud and clear, Cachukis! |
brer cat |
Aug-04-07 10:13 PM |
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Welcome to DU, cachukis! |
Heidi |
Aug-05-07 08:31 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-04-07 08:08 PM |
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In the end I suspect most here will vote whoever they are allowed to vote |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-04-07 08:14 PM |
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Lovely...some sense at last. |
dorktv |
Aug-04-07 08:31 PM |
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43 congressional democrats just gave Gonzo more power and |
IChing |
Aug-04-07 09:24 PM |
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The Democratic party is |
tsegat01 |
Aug-04-07 09:40 PM |
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The fact of the matter is that the Democrats know what they are doing. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-04-07 09:44 PM |
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I agree |
tsegat01 |
Aug-05-07 01:02 AM |
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When it's a core issue, a matter of our constitutional rights... |
Raksha |
Aug-05-07 07:40 AM |
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Agreed. |
Marr |
Aug-05-07 09:44 AM |
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Yep. Good job. Some good points there. NT |
MADem |
Aug-04-07 09:58 PM |
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I'm sticking my thumb in my mouth |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-04-07 10:03 PM |
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So, Will: Whom, exactly, represents us now? n/t |
JulieRB |
Aug-04-07 10:22 PM |
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You do. |
WilliamPitt |
Aug-05-07 02:24 AM |
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How many times will it take 'till they know |
ProudDad |
Aug-04-07 10:57 PM |
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I stood with the dems..it is they who chose not to stand with me or my dem values! |
flyarm |
Aug-04-07 11:33 PM |
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Well said William! |
Crewleader |
Aug-04-07 11:35 PM |
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Name removed |
Aug-05-07 12:08 AM |
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That's nice, but what happened to, "This is Stalingrad. Not. One. Step. Back."? |
Phredicles |
Aug-05-07 12:09 AM |
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In Stalingrad, they ate their own to stay alive. If you want to call it a life... |
puebloknot |
Aug-05-07 12:56 AM |
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So will Pitt "stick with" the 41 Dem House members and 16 Senators who just |
Seabiscuit |
Aug-05-07 01:36 AM |
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C'mon! Just give it 30 or 100 years. n/t |
BushDespiser12 |
Aug-05-07 04:43 AM |
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Lots to think about...... |
FredStembottom |
Aug-05-07 02:00 AM |
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a kick! 1st 1! eom! |
wildbilln864 |
Aug-05-07 02:10 AM |
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Contradiction? |
spindoctor |
Aug-05-07 03:19 AM |
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But there is no other option |
EndlessMaze |
Aug-05-07 04:02 AM |
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And there won't be if we sit around and wait like some suggest |
spindoctor |
Aug-05-07 04:42 AM |
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truth -- or in today's lexicon... word |
BushDespiser12 |
Aug-05-07 04:49 AM |
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Sorry - you won't have MY support on this one...you are just plain WRONG. |
TankLV |
Aug-05-07 03:51 AM |
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Solid. |
oasis |
Aug-05-07 04:19 AM |
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Pretty much describes how I feel... |
cynatnite |
Aug-05-07 04:41 AM |
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I read this a while ago, but didn't respond. This post really disturbed me (in a good way). |
Tatiana |
Aug-05-07 05:50 AM |
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What can I say but that I agree, Tatiana, and Will, this IS one of your best! |
tom_paine |
Aug-05-07 06:08 AM |
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You said it well -- quoting Tatiana: |
marions ghost |
Aug-05-07 08:23 AM |
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Absolutely spot on! |
sybylla |
Aug-05-07 11:29 AM |
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Splendid, Mr. Pitt. I agree with you 100%. nm |
Alamom |
Aug-05-07 06:23 AM |
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(THIS is the most "unpopular thing ever posted"?) |
annabanana |
Aug-05-07 06:24 AM |
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hardly, last year the Jason Leopold shit was rough |
Wetzelbill |
Aug-05-07 08:13 AM |
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A lot of us were |
OzarkDem |
Aug-05-07 10:01 AM |
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yes |
Wetzelbill |
Aug-05-07 10:20 AM |
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It must be cumulative |
OzarkDem |
Aug-05-07 10:53 AM |
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I feel the same way as you do. There's no quick fix and I'll stick by the Dems. |
livvy |
Aug-05-07 07:35 AM |
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I agree with you |
cally |
Aug-05-07 08:06 AM |
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I'm a committed Democrat |
OzarkDem |
Aug-05-07 08:30 AM |
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Before you leave... |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-05-07 08:35 AM |
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I stick. nt |
onehandle |
Aug-05-07 08:50 AM |
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Will! You've caused quite a stir! |
ElboRuum |
Aug-05-07 09:12 AM |
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Two words: SUPREME COURT |
Kazak |
Aug-05-07 09:25 AM |
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I was born a democrat and i`ll die a democrat |
madrchsod |
Aug-05-07 09:55 AM |
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Of course I'm sticking with the Dems - Thanks for the post, Will. n/t |
AnotherMother4Peace |
Aug-05-07 09:58 AM |
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bravo |
unpossibles |
Aug-05-07 10:14 AM |
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Listen to Pitt, DUers. He's right. |
smoogatz |
Aug-05-07 10:49 AM |
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kick |
mantis49 |
Aug-05-07 11:06 AM |
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In the immortal words of Richard Gere |
DemGa |
Aug-05-07 11:13 AM |
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you are right |
leftofthedial |
Aug-05-07 11:20 AM |
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Not to criticize but please take a moment to consider that |
lynnertic |
Aug-05-07 11:34 AM |
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I agree with you, Will. nt |
Miss Chybil |
Aug-05-07 11:37 AM |
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Kick for the progressives |
Tatiana |
Aug-05-07 12:01 PM |
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You speak for me. |
Gregorian |
Aug-05-07 12:05 PM |
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Yes. Here's the deal. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-05-07 12:34 PM |
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Wow Will wish you would stay and keep plodding along |
lovuian |
Aug-05-07 03:14 PM |
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I won't enthusiastically vote for Hillary, but I will. Just like I voted for Gore in 2000, not Nader |
RadiDem |
Aug-05-07 03:14 PM |
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thanks for bringing some perspective, Will |
hlthe2b |
Aug-05-07 03:25 PM |
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So you know you have a rigged deck |
Hydra |
Aug-05-07 03:40 PM |
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I couldn't post this on your Goodbye thread today, as |
Kajsa |
Aug-05-07 04:29 PM |
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locking |
maddezmom |
Aug-05-07 04:48 PM |
#151 |
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