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Mon Jul-30-07 01:25 PM
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| 2. There is one importanat piece of information missing |
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how pregnant was she? The standard for most states is 24 weeks, before that it is an abortion whether spontaneous or not after, a miscarriage or possible murder or manslaughter. Why is this missing? Do the "authorities" not know or is it to stir up the probirthers to the max before saying oops and how to "prove" it was intentional, could be she has no insurance.
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| -Murder or not? Apparently several home-made abortions |
sampsonblk |
Jul-30-07 01:13 PM |
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Dunno -- but I'll bet mental illness played a part n/t |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-30-07 01:16 PM |
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There is one importanat piece of information missing |
azurnoir |
Jul-30-07 01:25 PM |
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I can't help but think its deliberate |
Az |
Jul-30-07 01:54 PM |
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There was a similar case a few years back |
azurnoir |
Jul-30-07 02:56 PM |
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She delivered the placenta at the hospital |
DemBones DemBones |
Jul-30-07 03:04 PM |
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actually, that's not the piece of information missing |
iverglas |
Jul-30-07 03:27 PM |
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Yes, it was all done for probirthers. |
Tulum_Moon |
Jul-30-07 03:39 PM |
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The local paper said..... |
murbley40 |
Jul-31-07 12:25 PM |
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And stillborn |
azurnoir |
Jul-31-07 04:56 PM |
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How do they know |
PinkTiger |
Jul-30-07 01:25 PM |
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Because she's female, of course |
Warpy |
Jul-30-07 01:35 PM |
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Don't be so sure. |
PinkTiger |
Jul-30-07 01:51 PM |
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I'd wonder who the "fathers" were. |
SoCalDem |
Jul-30-07 03:03 PM |
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Easy. |
sampsonblk |
Jul-30-07 03:00 PM |
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Yeah, I bet she went horseback riding and drank herbal tea! (snark) nt |
Ilsa |
Jul-30-07 09:42 PM |
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How can they prove the babies weren't stillborn? |
gollygee |
Jul-30-07 01:55 PM |
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Or miscarriages to a women without health insurance. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jul-30-07 02:01 PM |
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking |
LostinVA |
Jul-30-07 02:59 PM |
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There are ways |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-30-07 03:10 PM |
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Lots of newborns, particularly preemies, die naturally after taking a breath too |
gollygee |
Jul-30-07 03:54 PM |
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There's a way they can check the lungs to see if the babies have |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Jul-30-07 03:18 PM |
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See #26. thanks. (nt) |
gollygee |
Jul-30-07 03:54 PM |
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Not Murder. Only Human Beings Can Be Murdered. |
stirlingsliver |
Jul-30-07 01:57 PM |
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Wow... |
sampsonblk |
Jul-30-07 03:02 PM |
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Depends on the state |
sandnsea |
Jul-30-07 03:30 PM |
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If they were living at time of birth this mother will be prosecuted... |
cynatnite |
Jul-30-07 02:58 PM |
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so |
sandnsea |
Jul-30-07 03:27 PM |
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I don't believe any woman should be prosecuted for a self-induced abortion... |
cynatnite |
Jul-30-07 03:34 PM |
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I see your point |
sandnsea |
Jul-30-07 03:44 PM |
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My understanding is that if at birth the lungs inflate... |
cynatnite |
Jul-30-07 03:57 PM |
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just for information |
iverglas |
Jul-30-07 04:08 PM |
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Same here - waiting for more information-nt |
sampsonblk |
Aug-01-07 09:22 PM |
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The Supreme Court may have to hear this one |
sampsonblk |
Jul-30-07 07:31 PM |
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Legal abortions require a medical professional |
sandnsea |
Jul-30-07 03:26 PM |
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just fyi |
iverglas |
Jul-30-07 08:48 PM |
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I was thinking back-alley |
sandnsea |
Jul-31-07 12:01 AM |
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Update |
sampsonblk |
Jul-30-07 07:49 PM |
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aren't you cute? |
iverglas |
Jul-30-07 08:42 PM |
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Word |
ismnotwasm |
Jul-30-07 09:28 PM |
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Unfortunately, no |
sampsonblk |
Jul-30-07 09:41 PM |
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Wait. Did you just say fetuses are not human beings????? |
sampsonblk |
Jul-30-07 09:42 PM |
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a little slow on the uptake, are we? |
iverglas |
Jul-31-07 08:15 AM |
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I acccept your challenge. Gladly |
sampsonblk |
Jul-31-07 11:19 AM |
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fine |
iverglas |
Jul-31-07 12:36 PM |
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No problem |
sampsonblk |
Jul-31-07 07:28 PM |
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okay, you lose |
iverglas |
Jul-31-07 09:36 PM |
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Put more effort into your arguments and less into insults |
sampsonblk |
Jul-31-07 10:41 PM |
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you still lose |
iverglas |
Aug-01-07 06:10 AM |
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OK enough of this |
sampsonblk |
Aug-01-07 08:21 PM |
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close, but no cigar |
iverglas |
Aug-01-07 09:25 PM |
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I'll say it. |
NaturalHigh |
Aug-01-07 08:14 AM |
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er, say what? |
iverglas |
Aug-01-07 08:47 AM |
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The acorns and oak trees thing doesn't work. |
NaturalHigh |
Aug-01-07 06:45 PM |
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Name removed |
Aug-01-07 07:33 PM |
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Actually, I'm 36 with a bachelor's degree... |
NaturalHigh |
Aug-01-07 07:39 PM |
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hey, I'm impressed |
iverglas |
Aug-01-07 07:42 PM |
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Actually, I do know the difference between an acorn and an oak tree. |
NaturalHigh |
Aug-01-07 07:53 PM |
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Yeah, what are they, |
Always AskWhy |
Jul-31-07 10:38 AM |
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somebody else slow today? |
iverglas |
Jul-31-07 12:38 PM |
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Acorns are not oak trees. nm |
dicksteele |
Jul-31-07 11:26 AM |
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OK so infants are not men. Ahhhh but they will be-nt |
sampsonblk |
Jul-31-07 07:29 PM |
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That's not what I said. Clearly. nm |
dicksteele |
Jul-31-07 07:54 PM |
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Like many here? Not me |
cgrindley |
Aug-01-07 06:14 AM |
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yeah, kinda like women |
iverglas |
Aug-01-07 06:47 AM |
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Let me just say that.... |
wicket |
Aug-01-07 08:21 AM |
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I have philosophical problems with that concept |
cgrindley |
Aug-01-07 10:01 AM |
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thank you iverglas for that link and your other posts |
uppityperson |
Aug-01-07 10:24 AM |
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You've been missed |
wicket |
Aug-02-07 12:03 PM |
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Supposedly, America is finally going to get to some postpartum illness legislation -- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-31-07 01:23 AM |
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We surely need it |
sampsonblk |
Jul-31-07 01:48 AM |
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In other news, heroic pharmacists continue to dispense lectures about Jesus to "loose women", |
impeachdubya |
Jul-31-07 12:38 PM |
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Huh? |
sampsonblk |
Jul-31-07 07:31 PM |
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I guess you haven't been paying attention. |
impeachdubya |
Aug-01-07 03:38 PM |
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Absolutely Murder. How's That Even Up For Discussion? n/t |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jul-31-07 07:32 PM |
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Update - Her property was vandalized; She has bruises |
sampsonblk |
Jul-31-07 09:16 PM |
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I'll save my sympathy for the babies. |
NaturalHigh |
Aug-01-07 08:17 AM |
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