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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:43 AM
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20. There's already some great responses here:

People in Canada compalin about the long waits and that they want provate health care. Pirvate health care will mean less doctors in the public system which is already short on them. It also means that people with the means to pay for the service will get bumped ahead of those who can't. That doesn't seem fair either.
Posted by: Mike Ventresca | July 29, 2007 at 12:39 PM


Way to push the HMO's agenda, adopting exactly their lobby's post-SiCKO response. Me, I'd rather wait 4 months than wait forever, because I don't have any coverage. Once again, the News shows which side its bread is buttered on.
Posted by: BS | July 29, 2007 at 11:46 AM


It seems we concentrate on Canadians who are unhappy with the system. Meanwhile, it is easy to forget how unhappy Americans are with our scattershot coverage.

Who enjoys arguing with an insurer about payment or seeing a specialist? Who wants to wait for hours at your emergency room? Lets not forget about the 45 million Americans who have no insurance. Then there is the dirty little secret of universal health care, ITS CHEAPER!

Now no one is claiming that the Canadian system is better in every regard. The Canadian model is just one here way in dozens of approaches to administer National Healthcare.

We have the luxury of selecting characteristics from systems around he world to tailor the best fit for us.

We cant continue to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, while millions are uninsured or under insured.

Posted by: al-alo | July 29, 2007 at 11:13 AM
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  -Oh, here we go again..... Universal health care: Is it worth the long waits? devilgrrl  Jul-29-07 10:34 AM   #0 
  - Sounds very strategic.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Jul-29-07 10:37 AM   #1 
  - The Buffalo News is a joke.  dorkulon   Jul-29-07 10:37 AM   #2 
  - I couldn't agree with you more.  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 10:39 AM   #4 
  - Hey now  shadowknows69   Jul-29-07 10:41 AM   #7 
     - I grew up there. They may be good people but city's a joke.  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 10:47 AM   #11 
        - Buffalo's a great example of what an entrenched political class  dorkulon   Jul-29-07 12:32 PM   #26 
           - I love how all the city's woes are blamed on Unions and taxes...  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 12:40 PM   #28 
              - Yep, and the unconstitutional control boards are part of that program. /nt  dorkulon   Jul-29-07 12:46 PM   #29 
                 - You're aware that Chief Justice Roberts' dad was a higher-up at Bethelem Steel?  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 12:53 PM   #31 
                    - Didn't know that, but knew he was from the Buff. But Bob Wilmers is the one  dorkulon   Jul-29-07 03:20 PM   #40 
                       - I read bloggers for the "real" local news in Buffalo.  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 04:16 PM   #44 
  - This story was to balance out the 18,000 stories they ran on how our system killed people last year.  FormerRushFan   Jul-29-07 03:05 PM   #38 
     - LOL right. /nt  dorkulon   Jul-29-07 03:21 PM   #41 
  - Whatever.  asthmaticeog   Jul-29-07 10:38 AM   #3 
  - I wouldn't be surprised if there were elements in the Canadian govt. deliberately creating  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-29-07 10:39 AM   #5 
  - Let Mr. McCreith come w/o a lot of money and we'll see. ...AS IF *WE* don't ration healthcare???  FormerRushFan   Jul-29-07 10:41 AM   #6 
  - I have kaiser...  MindPilot   Jul-29-07 10:45 AM   #8 
  - She had to wait a bit for a procedure  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jul-29-07 10:46 AM   #9 
  - I like Michael Moore's response to this  proud2Blib   Jul-29-07 10:46 AM   #10 
  - An interesting conversation I had with a Canuck....  Aviation Pro   Jul-29-07 10:47 AM   #12 
  - Your scenario is correct  Canuckistanian   Jul-30-07 01:41 PM   #60 
  - Here's what I wrote to the "reporter"...  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 10:50 AM   #13 
  - Why do we continue to use the word "sir" when debating the propogandists?  Aviation Pro   Jul-29-07 10:59 AM   #15 
  - Checking the average annual income....  Aviation Pro   Jul-29-07 10:57 AM   #14 
  - How much was McCreith paid to say this?  AX10   Jul-29-07 10:59 AM   #16 
  - How long do senators have to wait for their coverage?  dmordue   Jul-29-07 11:24 AM   #17 
  - Darn longer the 30 to 45 minute wait NOW>  Bitwit1234   Jul-29-07 11:26 AM   #18 
  - I would hope some Buffalo area folks write responses as LTTEs  NewJeffCT   Jul-29-07 11:30 AM   #19 
  - There's already some great responses here:  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 11:43 AM   #20 
     - just added mine to the mix  NewJeffCT   Jul-29-07 12:12 PM   #23 
        - Check out the freeper entry:  devilgrrl   Jul-29-07 01:35 PM   #36 
           - wow, what a loser that person is  NewJeffCT   Jul-30-07 07:46 AM   #48 
           - "And the rich are getting tired of picking up the tab..."  warren pease   Jul-30-07 12:28 PM   #49 
           - The same reason the firemen come to your house for free  Lirwin2   Jul-30-07 12:49 PM   #52 
           - lol at that!  Blue_Tires   Jul-30-07 01:28 PM   #57 
  - Uh - Canada's healthcare system is wildly popular in Canada.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-29-07 11:56 AM   #21 
  - The WashTimes had a different hit peice in the Commentary Section today  Solo_in_MD   Jul-29-07 12:07 PM   #22 
  - Oh, great. Now I have to take a shower.  FormerRushFan   Jul-29-07 12:32 PM   #25 
  - I know the guy who wrote this...  divinecommands   Jul-29-07 03:11 PM   #39 
  - a little fact checking  iverglas   Jul-30-07 03:00 PM   #64 
  - Here's a few differing viewpoints re Canadian health care  warren pease   Jul-29-07 12:31 PM   #24 
  - I'm familiar with this story  sammythecat   Jul-29-07 12:37 PM   #27 
  - If socialized medicine is so horrible, why do all these countries that have it  petronius   Jul-29-07 12:47 PM   #30 
  - Doesn't Canada have a two tiered system? Which did this person  trudyco   Jul-29-07 01:01 PM   #32 
  - No two tiered health care in Canada  divinecommands   Jul-29-07 05:19 PM   #45 
     - Well...  Lirwin2   Jul-30-07 12:47 PM   #51 
  - Well then fuck it. Give the whiny bastards an opt out option.  Kansas Wyatt   Jul-29-07 01:08 PM   #33 
  - Not opt-OUT, but opt-UP. Universal health will NOT be paid with flat fees...  FormerRushFan   Jul-29-07 03:35 PM   #43 
  - all medicine is slow and there are waits at every level  spanone   Jul-29-07 01:08 PM   #34 
  - Mr. McCreith is an idiot.  NanceGreggs   Jul-29-07 01:11 PM   #35 
  - McCreith probably complains about high taxes too - wants the gov't to cut back on services... n/t  FormerRushFan   Jul-29-07 02:55 PM   #37 
  - You're exactly right  SteelPenguin   Jul-30-07 01:09 PM   #55 
     - The thing is ...  NanceGreggs   Jul-30-07 03:07 PM   #65 
        - but don't miss the big picture!  iverglas   Jul-30-07 03:13 PM   #66 
        - The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Canadians ...  NanceGreggs   Jul-30-07 03:39 PM   #67 
           - Er  iverglas   Jul-30-07 03:55 PM   #68 
              - Hi, there!  NanceGreggs   Jul-30-07 04:28 PM   #70 
        - Hey Nance, is it the case that...  warren pease   Jul-30-07 04:29 PM   #71 
           - what am I, chopped liver??  iverglas   Jul-30-07 04:58 PM   #72 
              - Chopped liver, indeed  warren pease   Jul-30-07 05:28 PM   #73 
                 - oops  iverglas   Jul-30-07 05:45 PM   #74 
                    - Same afflictions, different geography...  warren pease   Jul-30-07 06:13 PM   #75 
  - Universal Health Care: But what about the forced abortions?  kenny blankenship   Jul-29-07 03:24 PM   #42 
  - I guess we shouldn't complain about a three hour wait in the ER...  cynatnite   Jul-29-07 05:22 PM   #46 
  - There is a town in Vermont that straddles the US-Canada border  SoCalDem   Jul-29-07 05:29 PM   #47 
  - What's the name of this town?  warren pease   Jul-30-07 12:31 PM   #50 
  - Because we don't have long waits with our current system.  LWolf   Jul-30-07 12:56 PM   #53 
  - my father is getting an MRI, he has been waiting at least a month so far  LSK   Jul-30-07 12:58 PM   #54 
  - I don't know what to think about this  iverglas   Jul-30-07 01:17 PM   #56 
  - Thank you for your wonderful, informative post. n/t  FormerRushFan   Jul-30-07 01:33 PM   #59 
  - you're welcome!  iverglas   Jul-30-07 01:59 PM   #61 
  - I'm seeing a pattern here with this 'Timely Medical Alternatives Inc.'  Canuckistanian   Jul-30-07 02:01 PM   #62 
     - good one  iverglas   Jul-30-07 02:10 PM   #63 
  - A consitutional challenge? I doubt it.  Canuckistanian   Jul-30-07 01:31 PM   #58 
  - I never have to wait...  walldude   Jul-30-07 04:04 PM   #69 

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