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Fri Jul-27-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #85 |
| 86. Nichols is a constitutional expert who clarified that neither Conyers or Pelosi can bring about |
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Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 03:32 PM by mzmolly
impeachment alone.
"The notion that John Conyers or Nancy Pelosi can make impeachment happen is mistaken..." Shouldn't Cindy and David defer to Nichols on this?
However, the author of the article noted wasn't in the room either was she? It's my understanding that she is taking the paraphrased smear by reactionaries like Sheehan and Swanson and running with it? Thus my concern.
Let me know when you guys hear from David on what was ACTUALLY said about "never impeaching."
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| -DN!: Should Impeachment Be Off The Table? Debate With Cindy Sheehan, Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern... |
babylonsister |
Jul-27-07 09:25 AM |
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Thanks for that. |
mmonk |
Jul-27-07 09:27 AM |
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I listened |
proud2Blib |
Jul-27-07 09:30 AM |
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K&R |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-27-07 09:31 AM |
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On Now. nt |
babylonsister |
Jul-27-07 10:11 AM |
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45% approval, 80 town or city measures, 15 sponsors for |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 10:14 AM |
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A lot of the evidence for impeachment was presented to |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 10:31 AM |
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I caught that; but I had my doubts about that |
babylonsister |
Jul-27-07 10:36 AM |
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He's actually much better than I thought he would be! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 10:39 AM |
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Why do Swanson and Sheehan continue to allow a dishonest characterization of what Conyers said to be |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 10:33 AM |
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Why not call his office? They should be able to answer that question. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 10:34 AM |
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Talking with them now. |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 10:44 AM |
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Transcript of Conyers on Amy's show 2/2007: |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 10:48 AM |
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Which to me says "I want to build a strong case." |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 10:54 AM |
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calling John Conyer's office for an exact quote might help |
leftchick |
Jul-27-07 10:40 AM |
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Just did "Conyers has not said he will NEVER impeach ... the off the table comment was made by |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 10:47 AM |
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See my post above. The problem isn't, to my mind, that |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 10:50 AM |
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I dont know that he wants to give these people more attention? |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 10:55 AM |
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What about those other people, the million people who signed |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 11:30 AM |
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Yep. |
mmonk |
Jul-27-07 11:38 AM |
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Call and ask for an official statement if you like? |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 11:49 AM |
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The idea would not be to continue the conflict but to clear up |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:24 PM |
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I don't think that's possible |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 12:39 PM |
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"these people"?? |
leftchick |
Jul-27-07 12:00 PM |
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I signed the petition as well. |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 12:08 PM |
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So you are saying the party is in peril? Gotcha. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:23 PM |
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Dr. Dean won't impeach either?! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:24 PM |
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What your group is doing is not funny. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:27 PM |
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Jul-27-07 12:29 PM |
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I have very little support here at all. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:33 PM |
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He told them to focus on the November 08 elections |
proud2Blib |
Jul-27-07 12:17 PM |
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He told "THEM" to focus on the elections, he did not say that he would not do his job |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 12:44 PM |
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From those who met with him on Monday: |
proud2Blib |
Jul-27-07 01:23 PM |
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Still no quotes, just paraphrased schmear. |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 01:34 PM |
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And even more from that same article: |
proud2Blib |
Jul-27-07 01:37 PM |
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... which is why I defer to John Nichols and not more paraphrasing and innuendo. |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 01:41 PM |
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John Nichols was in the office with Conyers? |
proud2Blib |
Jul-27-07 03:24 PM |
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Nichols is a constitutional expert who clarified that neither Conyers or Pelosi can bring about |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 03:31 PM |
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I have already posted that |
proud2Blib |
Jul-27-07 03:39 PM |
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You posted what each of them said, sans what Conyers said. |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 03:42 PM |
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But that would be hearsay |
proud2Blib |
Jul-27-07 04:01 PM |
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A quote is a quote. A paraphrase is shit. |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 05:54 PM |
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Nice. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 03:50 PM |
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Thanks MF |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 05:58 PM |
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Cindy's supporters are determined to hurt a good man, aren't they? |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:20 PM |
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What spin? When I posted that, I was trying to answer a question. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:22 PM |
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One post after the other. How am I out of line? Explain, please. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:24 PM |
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You are characterizing me as someone who wants to hurt Mr. Conyers |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:27 PM |
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Oh, well, then. Have your conversation. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:38 PM |
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Stay if you like but it's pretty hard to hold a conversation |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:40 PM |
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Oh, gee, I am so glad there have been no accusations flying... |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:55 PM |
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Are they posting to this thread? I must have them on ignore |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:56 PM |
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what some do not get is it...the votes |
bluedog |
Jul-27-07 12:27 PM |
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They are trying to hurt Democrats. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 12:29 PM |
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many of us are so tired of this ........... |
bluedog |
Jul-27-07 12:30 PM |
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True, once again. |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 12:46 PM |
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You guys keep dragging David and Cindy into this and then |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:58 PM |
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So do I, |
mzmolly |
Jul-27-07 01:05 PM |
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David has a website might respond to a question. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:11 PM |
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his Bio say she also work for Kucinich? |
bluedog |
Jul-27-07 01:32 PM |
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Yep. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:37 PM |
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Cindy's a politician running for office now, |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 01:03 PM |
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Which is why Swanson et. al's anti-Conyers/anti-Pelosi smears/lies so blatantly violate DU's rules. |
FreepFryer |
Jul-27-07 01:09 PM |
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David Swanson was active on impeachment long before she was |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:15 PM |
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So, maybe he was part of the group who urged her to run? |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 01:25 PM |
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The impeachment movement's goal isn't to defeat Democrats |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:35 PM |
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Cindy's goal is to defeat a Democrat. |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 01:43 PM |
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The topic of the OP is impeachment, not Cindy Sheehan. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:44 PM |
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The topic is Sheehan's opinion of the impeachment |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 01:46 PM |
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You might want to reread it. Have you watched the segment? n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:47 PM |
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Yes I've read it. I don't take anything that Sheehan |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 01:54 PM |
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This wasn't The Cindy Show but if that's what you make of it |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:55 PM |
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I never said it was the Cindy show, |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 02:01 PM |
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It's a DEBATE between THREE people!! She isn't debating herself! |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 01:50 PM |
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I never said she was debating herself. |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 01:55 PM |
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You said this was only showing her POV! It isn't. |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 01:57 PM |
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What I said in effect was that |
seasonedblue |
Jul-27-07 02:08 PM |
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But that doesn't address the post you were responding to. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:31 PM |
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until we all hear or read a statement from him |
bluedog |
Jul-27-07 12:37 PM |
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Which is why we were looking for a direct quote. So, actually |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:38 PM |
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May 18, 2006; No Rush to Impeachment |
bluedog |
Jul-27-07 12:49 PM |
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That's what we were trying to figure out. Here's what he said |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:55 PM |
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Far as I can tell, he hasn't changed his mind... |
FreepFryer |
Jul-27-07 01:01 PM |
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Thanks! |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 12:23 PM |
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I clicked the MP3 link to hear the interview and all I'm hearing |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 12:41 PM |
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It's generally 15 minutes into the show, after the headlines.n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:42 PM |
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Thanks! I got aggravated so I stopped the MP3 and closed |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 12:48 PM |
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Sure! I love that show, watch it every morning! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 12:50 PM |
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That was a good interview of all three. |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 01:20 PM |
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Yep. I was suprised that former Joementum aide sounded |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-27-07 01:36 PM |
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I was surprised too! I was expecting |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 01:40 PM |
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Last week, I posted: "Can we cut the BULLSHIT? - IT'S ABOUT THE OIL..." |
Junkdrawer |
Jul-27-07 01:06 PM |
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Raise your hand if you think the Senate has the votes....here's the procedure. |
madfloridian |
Jul-27-07 01:20 PM |
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so you'ld need 20 Republican senators to be in danger of losing their seats in '08 |
TheBaldyMan |
Jul-27-07 08:15 PM |
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k&r |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-27-07 05:58 PM |
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Beautiful!!! |
Breeze54 |
Jul-27-07 06:00 PM |
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