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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:59 PM
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142. The taping system brought him down.
I heard Al Franken on his Air America show say this:

He was living in NYC with his comedy partner, Tom Davis. They used to be Franken and Davis on Saturday Night Live and they were in the movie "Trading Places".

Anyway, a minor witness, Alexander Butterfield, while testifying revealed the existence of the taping system in the Oval Office.

Franken said they heard about that on the news, jumped up, high-fived each other, and said "HE'S GOIN' DOWN!!!".

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Nixon was a bastard back when he ran for Congress in CA against Helen Gahagan Douglas, and smeared her. That was in the late 1940s.

My mom always called him "That Bastard Richard Nixon".
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  -Question for old-timers: Was Watergate anything like this? CatWoman  Jul-26-07 08:46 AM   #0 
  - No  Atman   Jul-26-07 08:48 AM   #1 
  - And every revelation was aired as soon as it became known  Canuckistanian   Jul-26-07 08:50 AM   #2 
  - You had 3 channels??? I had 2, but as you said  shraby   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #5 
  - I would listen to the hearings on my car radio at lunch time  goclark   Jul-27-07 03:11 PM   #149 
  - Even Match Game!  mondo joe   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #6 
  - That's how the bastids sucked this 13 year old into being a polical wonk.  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #12 
     - I just kept waiting for Brett Sommers to show up.  mondo joe   Jul-26-07 08:55 AM   #14 
     - I'd have liked to see her question Haldeman and Ehrlichmann...  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 08:59 AM   #21 
        - That coulda been good! Then Nipsy Russell could have made up a  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-26-07 09:05 AM   #30 
        - There once were two tricksters  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 09:34 AM   #46 
           - I can really hear him saying that :^D  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-26-07 10:07 AM   #65 
           - Oh if we're doing Nixon jokes..  ananda   Jul-26-07 12:26 PM   #82 
              - Good ones! nt  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 12:47 PM   #87 
              - I still have a "Don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw" bumpersticker! n/t  eridani   Jul-26-07 10:07 PM   #125 
              - You forgot one  eridani   Jul-26-07 10:38 PM   #129 
              - Ah yes!! Rice graffiti!  Perragrande   Jul-26-07 11:41 PM   #138 
        - Remember the old song...  troubleinwinter   Jul-26-07 06:39 PM   #117 
           - That's True, he wasn't impeached  JPettus   Jul-26-07 11:53 PM   #140 
           - My only hope is that history repeats itself.  ariesgem   Jul-27-07 04:06 PM   #154 
              - What a great pic.  troubleinwinter   Jul-27-07 06:08 PM   #157 
     - It was mesmerizing  wryter2000   Jul-26-07 01:50 PM   #104 
  - I was 9 and can remember my grandmom being glad when it  woodsprite   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #9 
  - I was born in 1966 -  NewJeffCT   Jul-26-07 09:05 AM   #32 
  - oh yes, at least we had the media on our side back then.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 08:54 AM   #13 
  - By "our side," I'm assuming you mean "the people."  Atman   Jul-26-07 08:59 AM   #22 
     - yes, the people's side.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 09:09 AM   #36 
     - Remember Daniel Schorr reading the enemies list?  wryter2000   Jul-26-07 01:53 PM   #106 
  - We Had Real Investigative Reporters At That Time That Continued To.....  global1   Jul-26-07 08:55 AM   #15 
  - Excellent summary.  Le Taz Hot   Jul-26-07 09:40 AM   #51 
  - But those investigative reporters were in the WP METRO division, not in the WH press  ProgressiveEconomist   Jul-26-07 10:00 AM   #61 
  - yep, just a bunch of toadies alright!  G_j   Jul-26-07 01:03 PM   #94 
  - Woodward , who now writes Bush hagiography ?  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:43 PM   #132 
  - and now, even Woodward, one the reporters that broke Nixon  cmt928   Jul-27-07 08:08 AM   #148 
  - I recall watching the hearings on TV during Social Studies class.  PA Democrat   Jul-26-07 09:07 AM   #33 
  - And the "soap opera" ladies were pissed!  MNDemNY   Jul-26-07 12:13 PM   #77 
  - Now THAT I remember....kept interfering with my afternoon cartoons.  DesertedRose   Jul-26-07 12:22 PM   # 
  - This old timer would agree with your statement.  Hepburn   Jul-26-07 12:57 PM   #91 
  - yeah. remember the advocates on PBS, who debated this and it  roguevalley   Jul-26-07 02:33 PM   #112 
  - I read "All The President's Men" some years back..  Virginia Dare   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #3 
  - Intell insiders took Nixon down. Look into Sen Robt. F. Bennett's Mullan & Co. background  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 12:15 PM   # 
  - Early pages around 32-36 re the 'Chilean investors' in the Mexican bank  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:46 PM   #133 
  - Nixon teetered on the brink with the firing of the special prosecutor  Richardo   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #4 
  - Not that Nixon cared much for that old rag....  DCKit   Jul-26-07 09:34 AM   #45 
  - Woodward was part of intell and intell ran the operation  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:41 PM   #131 
  - Do you realize it was Robert Bork who did Nixon's bidding by firing the  alfredo   Jul-26-07 10:08 AM   #66 
     - Indeed. They went down the list at Justice and all refused to fire Cox until they got to Bork  Richardo   Jul-26-07 10:12 AM   #68 
        - Loyalty to the junta is all important.  alfredo   Jul-26-07 10:19 AM   #71 
  - No. And...  displacedtexan   Jul-26-07 08:52 AM   #7 
  - Link?  onenote   Jul-26-07 09:58 AM   #58 
  - Link?  displacedtexan   Jul-26-07 10:08 AM   #67 
  - I remember on the bottom right corner (I think)....  Hepburn   Jul-26-07 01:02 PM   #93 
     - I remember them discussing the weekly body count  onenote   Jul-26-07 01:20 PM   #97 
        - Life Magazine one week's war dead pics Memorial Day 1969 issue  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:49 PM   #134 
  - I was a very small child, but I remember the scroll of those killed that day in Vietnam*  UnyieldingHierophant   Jul-26-07 02:19 PM   #110 
  - Way back then, we had journalists  C_U_L8R   Jul-26-07 08:52 AM   #8 
  - This observation cannot be stressed enough...  KansDem   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #25 
  - Watergate inspired the RW "insurgency"  NewJeffCT   Jul-26-07 09:09 AM   #35 
  - We are eating the fruits of those labors right now and it sucks  harun   Jul-26-07 10:20 AM   #72 
  - Don't forget the Knights of Malta and other autocratic groups...  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:52 PM   #135 
  - Bingo  malaise   Jul-26-07 09:15 AM   #41 
  - It's all about the bottom line.  Dulcinea   Jul-26-07 12:01 PM   #75 
  - you still do, they just have a harder time being heard.  TheBaldyMan   Jul-26-07 09:36 AM   #48 
  - I'm not much older than you, but I as a political science major  groovedaddy   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #10 
  - Yes and No.  Tesha   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #11 
  - No  vpilot   Jul-26-07 08:58 AM   #20 
     - After a while. Nixon needed to rise to the level of being "an embarrasment" first.  Tesha   Jul-26-07 09:18 AM   #42 
  - Yes And No  MannyGoldstein   Jul-26-07 08:55 AM   #16 
  - You hit the key difference on the nose.  Buck Rabbit   Jul-26-07 03:04 PM   #113 
  - The Times were different in another way as well  JPettus   Jul-27-07 12:27 AM   #143 
  - Nixon was not a good person however  sallyseven   Jul-26-07 08:56 AM   #17 
  - my daughter called me last night  CatWoman   Jul-26-07 09:04 AM   #29 
     - I bet * gets drunk and talks to Bill Clinton's portrait.  roamer65   Jul-26-07 11:47 PM   #139 
     - Lost it?  JPettus   Jul-27-07 12:31 AM   #144 
  - Nixon wasn't willing to bring the country down with him.  jtrockville   Jul-26-07 08:57 AM   #18 
  - Do you think there is any chance the media will stop  woodsprite   Jul-26-07 08:58 AM   #19 
  - No  azurnoir   Jul-26-07 09:00 AM   #23 
  - No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then.  leftofthedial   Jul-26-07 09:00 AM   # 
  - No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then.  leftofthedial   Jul-26-07 09:00 AM   #24 
  - There were actual Republicans in Congress then as well.  Major Hogwash   Jul-26-07 02:16 PM   #107 
  - It was more PORTENTIOUS, I think--the hearings on Tee VEE  MADem   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #26 
  - I was working swing shift when the announcement came that he would resign.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #27 
  - oh yea, it was a time of celebration when Nixon stepped down.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 09:53 AM   #55 
  - My mom had every kid on the block over for cake and ice cream  sfexpat2000   Jul-26-07 10:27 AM   #73 
  - When news came of Niixon's resignation...  sheeptramp   Jul-26-07 12:28 PM   #83 
  - firing the special prosecutor Fox caused a few raised eyebrows  TheBaldyMan   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #28 
  - waddya mean by old-timers? nixon was a prick of the highest order  spanone   Jul-26-07 09:05 AM   #31 
  - Um, Cheney WAS behind Nixon.  cryingshame   Jul-26-07 10:27 AM   #74 
     - you're right, not in quite the same capacity as spiro agnew though.....  spanone   Jul-26-07 02:19 PM   #109 
        - ya, this is what happens when you don't put out a fire entirely. Embers eventually  cryingshame   Jul-26-07 03:43 PM   #115 
           - Oh, how I wish ALL DUers could grasp the truth of which you speak!  bobbolink   Jul-27-07 04:10 PM   #155 
  - No. Shrub makes Nixon look like Mr. Rogers.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-26-07 09:07 AM   #34 
  - Nixon was a choirboy  Turbineguy   Jul-26-07 09:12 AM   #37 
  - Yes and no.  H2O Man   Jul-26-07 09:12 AM   #38 
  - Yes -- "smug and cruel." Exactly. A simple-minded monster. n/t  quiet.american   Jul-26-07 12:19 PM   #79 
  - I don't remember Nixon being this blatantly stupid  supernova   Jul-26-07 09:14 AM   #39 
  - Definitely not as stupid as * ...but then  Desertrose   Jul-26-07 10:04 AM   #63 
  - The attitude of the Bush administration is identical to the Nixxon administration  Gman   Jul-26-07 09:15 AM   #40 
  - that is cheney's vendetta.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 09:56 AM   #57 
  - I was 30 years old. 4 key players, IMHO.  trof   Jul-26-07 09:20 AM   #43 
  - Please see post #132. Woodward hasn't changed a bit  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:55 PM   #136 
  - Trof  CatWoman   Jul-27-07 03:24 PM   #151 
  - Well darn, you're younger than me Cat  George Oilwellian   Jul-26-07 09:31 AM   #44 
  - I'm tired of my sister calling me an old bat  CatWoman   Jul-27-07 03:25 PM   #152 
  - Major difference: The investigation was front and center in the media  BurtWorm   Jul-26-07 09:35 AM   #47 
  - yes yes and yes...but this asshole is making me miss Nixon!!  flyarm   Jul-26-07 09:38 AM   #49 
  - Do you really want to know why today's youth aren't protesting?  YOY   Jul-26-07 12:22 PM   #81 
     - I WANT TO SEE IT BUT IT IS NOT PLAYING ANYWHERE NEAR ME..NO WHERE!!  flyarm   Jul-26-07 12:58 PM   #92 
        - The chains are set in place and he is in his cage...perhaps he won't realize until later  YOY   Jul-26-07 01:08 PM   #96 
        - perhaps you can download it, or get some to download it for you  TheBaldyMan   Jul-26-07 08:55 PM   #124 
        - We may very well have to lose the country before they are able to "get it"  bobbolink   Jul-27-07 04:15 PM   #156 
  - Yes and no...  TygrBright   Jul-26-07 09:40 AM   #50 
  - The disdain and contempt - quite similar.  TacticalPeek   Jul-26-07 09:44 AM   #52 
  - Yeah, we need to include John Mitchell. He was the AG and he  King Coal   Jul-26-07 09:55 AM   #56 
     - Interesting Helen Thomas piece on Martha Mitchell  Mme. Defarge   Jul-26-07 02:17 PM   #108 
  - Cat, I was a little older than you, but I remember a chef I was  King Coal   Jul-26-07 09:45 AM   #53 
  - Yes and no. The "no" part = the media weren't quite the lap-dogs, there were no RW shows,  WinkyDink   Jul-26-07 09:47 AM   #54 
  - No-way! Nixon didn't have the media control * has, Nixon wasn't able  Imagevision   Jul-26-07 09:59 AM   #59 
  - No. The sheer volume of what we are facing now is much worse  mmonk   Jul-26-07 09:59 AM   #60 
  - yes and no  onenote   Jul-26-07 10:04 AM   #62 
  - No.. W makes Tricky Dick look like an altar boy  nini   Jul-26-07 10:05 AM   #64 
  - That cannot be emphasized enough. Smirk wouldn't qualify to shine Tricky Dick's shoes.  TahitiNut   Jul-26-07 10:12 AM   #69 
  - YES, and this is a replay of many of the same events....  Blackhatjack   Jul-26-07 10:15 AM   #70 
  - The taping system brought him down.  Perragrande   Jul-26-07 11:59 PM   #142 
  - Yes, In Spades. Watergate was about domestic ops, martial law, and unconstitutional exec behavior  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 12:13 PM   #76 
  - Yes.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-26-07 12:15 PM   #78 
  - No  kaygore   Jul-26-07 12:22 PM   #80 
  - What's missing is the Republican side of this I think.  seasonedblue   Jul-26-07 12:28 PM   #84 
  - NO. And, YES, in 1972 we had criminals running the RNC and the WH.  L. Coyote   Jul-26-07 12:32 PM   #85 
  - I so remember.  ananda   Jul-26-07 12:35 PM   #86 
  - More names: Liz Holtzman, Peter Rodino  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-26-07 01:39 PM   #100 
     - The Judiciary should make Liz Holtzman their impeachment counsel.  IMModerate   Jul-26-07 05:16 PM   #116 
        - Well, she did just write a book...  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-26-07 06:39 PM   #118 
           - Yeah, I was living in NY then. And happy to vote for Liz.  IMModerate   Jul-27-07 05:28 AM   #146 
  - The difference is that the press actually did their job, and did it  spenbax   Jul-26-07 12:51 PM   #88 
  - For starters, there was an opposition party ...  Iverson   Jul-26-07 12:55 PM   #89 
  - yes, I was in law school at the time, it is just like this  Hamlette   Jul-26-07 12:55 PM   #90 
  - You remember it just as I do... I would add Nixon's arrogance brought him down  Blackhatjack   Jul-26-07 01:43 PM   #101 
  - hubris is very dangerous, unfortunately Bush doesn't have tapes and so far no John Dean  Hamlette   Jul-26-07 03:16 PM   #114 
  - That's what I remember  sandnsea   Jul-26-07 01:50 PM   #103 
  - No. Congress wasn't as ideological back then.  kskiska   Jul-26-07 01:04 PM   #95 
  - I don't think so,  dmr   Jul-26-07 01:23 PM   #98 
  - a similarity ;THEY DIDNT HAVE THE VOTES TO IMPEACH EITHER!  sheeptramp   Jul-26-07 01:32 PM   #99 
  - Nixon was arrogant  wryter2000   Jul-26-07 01:49 PM   #102 
  - Cat, There Was A Different Dynamic  KharmaTrain   Jul-26-07 01:52 PM   #105 
  - I guess I really didn't "know" Nixon  CatWoman   Jul-27-07 03:31 PM   #153 
  - The arrogance of the President and Republicans then was just as great as the Bush Adminstration  Blackhatjack   Jul-26-07 02:21 PM   #111 
  - The MSM wasn't owned and pimped by  Jack Sprat   Jul-26-07 06:43 PM   #119 
  - Can you imagine where we would be today  sgcase   Jul-26-07 07:13 PM   #123 
  - I remember it all...  troubleinwinter   Jul-26-07 06:45 PM   #120 
  - It was very much like this, with one important fact -  NancyBreen   Jul-26-07 07:01 PM   #121 
  - Media was different, government was different  AngryOldDem   Jul-26-07 07:06 PM   #122 
  - If someone had told me in 1973 that 30 years later I'd be avidly looking out for--  eridani   Jul-26-07 10:10 PM   #126 
  - Similarities are, Nixon could NEVER allow the 18 minutes content of the erased tape to  Imagevision   Jul-26-07 10:24 PM   #127 
  - NO. Repukes were semi-normal in those days. People like John Dean existed, thank G-D! Now?  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-26-07 10:29 PM   #128 
  - We did not have the INFORMATION then.  Bennyboy   Jul-26-07 10:38 PM   #130 
  - Yes. Nixon was an old school thug, though. These guys are much  pinto   Jul-26-07 11:05 PM   #137 
  - Read Hitchens' book, "The Trial of...  roamer65   Jul-26-07 11:58 PM   #141 
  - Not even close....Bush is THE WORST in all of Americas History  opihimoimoi   Jul-27-07 01:17 AM   #145 
  - Since most of you have said everything  murielm99   Jul-27-07 08:00 AM   #147 
  - What I remember is a long quiet time between the break-in and the investigations.  hedgehog   Jul-27-07 03:18 PM   #150 
 

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