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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 08:58 AM
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19. Do you think there is any chance the media will stop
carrying water for this administration and actually start reporting? Every once in awhile I think it's starting to happen, then it seems they were just 'throwing us a bone' and they go back to being the 'Piss boy'. We're quickly running out of time and they better stop 'waiting for the shake'.
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  -Question for old-timers: Was Watergate anything like this? CatWoman  Jul-26-07 08:46 AM   #0 
  - No  Atman   Jul-26-07 08:48 AM   #1 
  - And every revelation was aired as soon as it became known  Canuckistanian   Jul-26-07 08:50 AM   #2 
  - You had 3 channels??? I had 2, but as you said  shraby   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #5 
  - I would listen to the hearings on my car radio at lunch time  goclark   Jul-27-07 03:11 PM   #149 
  - Even Match Game!  mondo joe   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #6 
  - That's how the bastids sucked this 13 year old into being a polical wonk.  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #12 
     - I just kept waiting for Brett Sommers to show up.  mondo joe   Jul-26-07 08:55 AM   #14 
     - I'd have liked to see her question Haldeman and Ehrlichmann...  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 08:59 AM   #21 
        - That coulda been good! Then Nipsy Russell could have made up a  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-26-07 09:05 AM   #30 
        - There once were two tricksters  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 09:34 AM   #46 
           - I can really hear him saying that :^D  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-26-07 10:07 AM   #65 
           - Oh if we're doing Nixon jokes..  ananda   Jul-26-07 12:26 PM   #82 
              - Good ones! nt  blondeatlast   Jul-26-07 12:47 PM   #87 
              - I still have a "Don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw" bumpersticker! n/t  eridani   Jul-26-07 10:07 PM   #125 
              - You forgot one  eridani   Jul-26-07 10:38 PM   #129 
              - Ah yes!! Rice graffiti!  Perragrande   Jul-26-07 11:41 PM   #138 
        - Remember the old song...  troubleinwinter   Jul-26-07 06:39 PM   #117 
           - That's True, he wasn't impeached  JPettus   Jul-26-07 11:53 PM   #140 
           - My only hope is that history repeats itself.  ariesgem   Jul-27-07 04:06 PM   #154 
              - What a great pic.  troubleinwinter   Jul-27-07 06:08 PM   #157 
     - It was mesmerizing  wryter2000   Jul-26-07 01:50 PM   #104 
  - I was 9 and can remember my grandmom being glad when it  woodsprite   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #9 
  - I was born in 1966 -  NewJeffCT   Jul-26-07 09:05 AM   #32 
  - oh yes, at least we had the media on our side back then.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 08:54 AM   #13 
  - By "our side," I'm assuming you mean "the people."  Atman   Jul-26-07 08:59 AM   #22 
     - yes, the people's side.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 09:09 AM   #36 
     - Remember Daniel Schorr reading the enemies list?  wryter2000   Jul-26-07 01:53 PM   #106 
  - We Had Real Investigative Reporters At That Time That Continued To.....  global1   Jul-26-07 08:55 AM   #15 
  - Excellent summary.  Le Taz Hot   Jul-26-07 09:40 AM   #51 
  - But those investigative reporters were in the WP METRO division, not in the WH press  ProgressiveEconomist   Jul-26-07 10:00 AM   #61 
  - yep, just a bunch of toadies alright!  G_j   Jul-26-07 01:03 PM   #94 
  - Woodward , who now writes Bush hagiography ?  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:43 PM   #132 
  - and now, even Woodward, one the reporters that broke Nixon  cmt928   Jul-27-07 08:08 AM   #148 
  - I recall watching the hearings on TV during Social Studies class.  PA Democrat   Jul-26-07 09:07 AM   #33 
  - And the "soap opera" ladies were pissed!  MNDemNY   Jul-26-07 12:13 PM   #77 
  - Now THAT I remember....kept interfering with my afternoon cartoons.  DesertedRose   Jul-26-07 12:22 PM   # 
  - This old timer would agree with your statement.  Hepburn   Jul-26-07 12:57 PM   #91 
  - yeah. remember the advocates on PBS, who debated this and it  roguevalley   Jul-26-07 02:33 PM   #112 
  - I read "All The President's Men" some years back..  Virginia Dare   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #3 
  - Intell insiders took Nixon down. Look into Sen Robt. F. Bennett's Mullan & Co. background  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 12:15 PM   # 
  - Early pages around 32-36 re the 'Chilean investors' in the Mexican bank  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:46 PM   #133 
  - Nixon teetered on the brink with the firing of the special prosecutor  Richardo   Jul-26-07 08:51 AM   #4 
  - Not that Nixon cared much for that old rag....  DCKit   Jul-26-07 09:34 AM   #45 
  - Woodward was part of intell and intell ran the operation  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:41 PM   #131 
  - Do you realize it was Robert Bork who did Nixon's bidding by firing the  alfredo   Jul-26-07 10:08 AM   #66 
     - Indeed. They went down the list at Justice and all refused to fire Cox until they got to Bork  Richardo   Jul-26-07 10:12 AM   #68 
        - Loyalty to the junta is all important.  alfredo   Jul-26-07 10:19 AM   #71 
  - No. And...  displacedtexan   Jul-26-07 08:52 AM   #7 
  - Link?  onenote   Jul-26-07 09:58 AM   #58 
  - Link?  displacedtexan   Jul-26-07 10:08 AM   #67 
  - I remember on the bottom right corner (I think)....  Hepburn   Jul-26-07 01:02 PM   #93 
     - I remember them discussing the weekly body count  onenote   Jul-26-07 01:20 PM   #97 
        - Life Magazine one week's war dead pics Memorial Day 1969 issue  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:49 PM   #134 
  - I was a very small child, but I remember the scroll of those killed that day in Vietnam*  UnyieldingHierophant   Jul-26-07 02:19 PM   #110 
  - Way back then, we had journalists  C_U_L8R   Jul-26-07 08:52 AM   #8 
  - This observation cannot be stressed enough...  KansDem   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #25 
  - Watergate inspired the RW "insurgency"  NewJeffCT   Jul-26-07 09:09 AM   #35 
  - We are eating the fruits of those labors right now and it sucks  harun   Jul-26-07 10:20 AM   #72 
  - Don't forget the Knights of Malta and other autocratic groups...  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:52 PM   #135 
  - Bingo  malaise   Jul-26-07 09:15 AM   #41 
  - It's all about the bottom line.  Dulcinea   Jul-26-07 12:01 PM   #75 
  - you still do, they just have a harder time being heard.  TheBaldyMan   Jul-26-07 09:36 AM   #48 
  - I'm not much older than you, but I as a political science major  groovedaddy   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #10 
  - Yes and No.  Tesha   Jul-26-07 08:53 AM   #11 
  - No  vpilot   Jul-26-07 08:58 AM   #20 
     - After a while. Nixon needed to rise to the level of being "an embarrasment" first.  Tesha   Jul-26-07 09:18 AM   #42 
  - Yes And No  MannyGoldstein   Jul-26-07 08:55 AM   #16 
  - You hit the key difference on the nose.  Buck Rabbit   Jul-26-07 03:04 PM   #113 
  - The Times were different in another way as well  JPettus   Jul-27-07 12:27 AM   #143 
  - Nixon was not a good person however  sallyseven   Jul-26-07 08:56 AM   #17 
  - my daughter called me last night  CatWoman   Jul-26-07 09:04 AM   #29 
     - I bet * gets drunk and talks to Bill Clinton's portrait.  roamer65   Jul-26-07 11:47 PM   #139 
     - Lost it?  JPettus   Jul-27-07 12:31 AM   #144 
  - Nixon wasn't willing to bring the country down with him.  jtrockville   Jul-26-07 08:57 AM   #18 
  - Do you think there is any chance the media will stop  woodsprite   Jul-26-07 08:58 AM   #19 
  - No  azurnoir   Jul-26-07 09:00 AM   #23 
  - No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then.  leftofthedial   Jul-26-07 09:00 AM   # 
  - No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then.  leftofthedial   Jul-26-07 09:00 AM   #24 
  - There were actual Republicans in Congress then as well.  Major Hogwash   Jul-26-07 02:16 PM   #107 
  - It was more PORTENTIOUS, I think--the hearings on Tee VEE  MADem   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #26 
  - I was working swing shift when the announcement came that he would resign.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #27 
  - oh yea, it was a time of celebration when Nixon stepped down.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 09:53 AM   #55 
  - My mom had every kid on the block over for cake and ice cream  sfexpat2000   Jul-26-07 10:27 AM   #73 
  - When news came of Niixon's resignation...  sheeptramp   Jul-26-07 12:28 PM   #83 
  - firing the special prosecutor Fox caused a few raised eyebrows  TheBaldyMan   Jul-26-07 09:01 AM   #28 
  - waddya mean by old-timers? nixon was a prick of the highest order  spanone   Jul-26-07 09:05 AM   #31 
  - Um, Cheney WAS behind Nixon.  cryingshame   Jul-26-07 10:27 AM   #74 
     - you're right, not in quite the same capacity as spiro agnew though.....  spanone   Jul-26-07 02:19 PM   #109 
        - ya, this is what happens when you don't put out a fire entirely. Embers eventually  cryingshame   Jul-26-07 03:43 PM   #115 
           - Oh, how I wish ALL DUers could grasp the truth of which you speak!  bobbolink   Jul-27-07 04:10 PM   #155 
  - No. Shrub makes Nixon look like Mr. Rogers.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-26-07 09:07 AM   #34 
  - Nixon was a choirboy  Turbineguy   Jul-26-07 09:12 AM   #37 
  - Yes and no.  H2O Man   Jul-26-07 09:12 AM   #38 
  - Yes -- "smug and cruel." Exactly. A simple-minded monster. n/t  quiet.american   Jul-26-07 12:19 PM   #79 
  - I don't remember Nixon being this blatantly stupid  supernova   Jul-26-07 09:14 AM   #39 
  - Definitely not as stupid as * ...but then  Desertrose   Jul-26-07 10:04 AM   #63 
  - The attitude of the Bush administration is identical to the Nixxon administration  Gman   Jul-26-07 09:15 AM   #40 
  - that is cheney's vendetta.  alyce douglas   Jul-26-07 09:56 AM   #57 
  - I was 30 years old. 4 key players, IMHO.  trof   Jul-26-07 09:20 AM   #43 
  - Please see post #132. Woodward hasn't changed a bit  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 10:55 PM   #136 
  - Trof  CatWoman   Jul-27-07 03:24 PM   #151 
  - Well darn, you're younger than me Cat  George Oilwellian   Jul-26-07 09:31 AM   #44 
  - I'm tired of my sister calling me an old bat  CatWoman   Jul-27-07 03:25 PM   #152 
  - Major difference: The investigation was front and center in the media  BurtWorm   Jul-26-07 09:35 AM   #47 
  - yes yes and yes...but this asshole is making me miss Nixon!!  flyarm   Jul-26-07 09:38 AM   #49 
  - Do you really want to know why today's youth aren't protesting?  YOY   Jul-26-07 12:22 PM   #81 
     - I WANT TO SEE IT BUT IT IS NOT PLAYING ANYWHERE NEAR ME..NO WHERE!!  flyarm   Jul-26-07 12:58 PM   #92 
        - The chains are set in place and he is in his cage...perhaps he won't realize until later  YOY   Jul-26-07 01:08 PM   #96 
        - perhaps you can download it, or get some to download it for you  TheBaldyMan   Jul-26-07 08:55 PM   #124 
        - We may very well have to lose the country before they are able to "get it"  bobbolink   Jul-27-07 04:15 PM   #156 
  - Yes and no...  TygrBright   Jul-26-07 09:40 AM   #50 
  - The disdain and contempt - quite similar.  TacticalPeek   Jul-26-07 09:44 AM   #52 
  - Yeah, we need to include John Mitchell. He was the AG and he  King Coal   Jul-26-07 09:55 AM   #56 
     - Interesting Helen Thomas piece on Martha Mitchell  Mme. Defarge   Jul-26-07 02:17 PM   #108 
  - Cat, I was a little older than you, but I remember a chef I was  King Coal   Jul-26-07 09:45 AM   #53 
  - Yes and no. The "no" part = the media weren't quite the lap-dogs, there were no RW shows,  WinkyDink   Jul-26-07 09:47 AM   #54 
  - No-way! Nixon didn't have the media control * has, Nixon wasn't able  Imagevision   Jul-26-07 09:59 AM   #59 
  - No. The sheer volume of what we are facing now is much worse  mmonk   Jul-26-07 09:59 AM   #60 
  - yes and no  onenote   Jul-26-07 10:04 AM   #62 
  - No.. W makes Tricky Dick look like an altar boy  nini   Jul-26-07 10:05 AM   #64 
  - That cannot be emphasized enough. Smirk wouldn't qualify to shine Tricky Dick's shoes.  TahitiNut   Jul-26-07 10:12 AM   #69 
  - YES, and this is a replay of many of the same events....  Blackhatjack   Jul-26-07 10:15 AM   #70 
  - The taping system brought him down.  Perragrande   Jul-26-07 11:59 PM   #142 
  - Yes, In Spades. Watergate was about domestic ops, martial law, and unconstitutional exec behavior  EVDebs   Jul-26-07 12:13 PM   #76 
  - Yes.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-26-07 12:15 PM   #78 
  - No  kaygore   Jul-26-07 12:22 PM   #80 
  - What's missing is the Republican side of this I think.  seasonedblue   Jul-26-07 12:28 PM   #84 
  - NO. And, YES, in 1972 we had criminals running the RNC and the WH.  L. Coyote   Jul-26-07 12:32 PM   #85 
  - I so remember.  ananda   Jul-26-07 12:35 PM   #86 
  - More names: Liz Holtzman, Peter Rodino  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-26-07 01:39 PM   #100 
     - The Judiciary should make Liz Holtzman their impeachment counsel.  IMModerate   Jul-26-07 05:16 PM   #116 
        - Well, she did just write a book...  NewYorkerfromMass   Jul-26-07 06:39 PM   #118 
           - Yeah, I was living in NY then. And happy to vote for Liz.  IMModerate   Jul-27-07 05:28 AM   #146 
  - The difference is that the press actually did their job, and did it  spenbax   Jul-26-07 12:51 PM   #88 
  - For starters, there was an opposition party ...  Iverson   Jul-26-07 12:55 PM   #89 
  - yes, I was in law school at the time, it is just like this  Hamlette   Jul-26-07 12:55 PM   #90 
  - You remember it just as I do... I would add Nixon's arrogance brought him down  Blackhatjack   Jul-26-07 01:43 PM   #101 
  - hubris is very dangerous, unfortunately Bush doesn't have tapes and so far no John Dean  Hamlette   Jul-26-07 03:16 PM   #114 
  - That's what I remember  sandnsea   Jul-26-07 01:50 PM   #103 
  - No. Congress wasn't as ideological back then.  kskiska   Jul-26-07 01:04 PM   #95 
  - I don't think so,  dmr   Jul-26-07 01:23 PM   #98 
  - a similarity ;THEY DIDNT HAVE THE VOTES TO IMPEACH EITHER!  sheeptramp   Jul-26-07 01:32 PM   #99 
  - Nixon was arrogant  wryter2000   Jul-26-07 01:49 PM   #102 
  - Cat, There Was A Different Dynamic  KharmaTrain   Jul-26-07 01:52 PM   #105 
  - I guess I really didn't "know" Nixon  CatWoman   Jul-27-07 03:31 PM   #153 
  - The arrogance of the President and Republicans then was just as great as the Bush Adminstration  Blackhatjack   Jul-26-07 02:21 PM   #111 
  - The MSM wasn't owned and pimped by  Jack Sprat   Jul-26-07 06:43 PM   #119 
  - Can you imagine where we would be today  sgcase   Jul-26-07 07:13 PM   #123 
  - I remember it all...  troubleinwinter   Jul-26-07 06:45 PM   #120 
  - It was very much like this, with one important fact -  NancyBreen   Jul-26-07 07:01 PM   #121 
  - Media was different, government was different  AngryOldDem   Jul-26-07 07:06 PM   #122 
  - If someone had told me in 1973 that 30 years later I'd be avidly looking out for--  eridani   Jul-26-07 10:10 PM   #126 
  - Similarities are, Nixon could NEVER allow the 18 minutes content of the erased tape to  Imagevision   Jul-26-07 10:24 PM   #127 
  - NO. Repukes were semi-normal in those days. People like John Dean existed, thank G-D! Now?  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-26-07 10:29 PM   #128 
  - We did not have the INFORMATION then.  Bennyboy   Jul-26-07 10:38 PM   #130 
  - Yes. Nixon was an old school thug, though. These guys are much  pinto   Jul-26-07 11:05 PM   #137 
  - Read Hitchens' book, "The Trial of...  roamer65   Jul-26-07 11:58 PM   #141 
  - Not even close....Bush is THE WORST in all of Americas History  opihimoimoi   Jul-27-07 01:17 AM   #145 
  - Since most of you have said everything  murielm99   Jul-27-07 08:00 AM   #147 
  - What I remember is a long quiet time between the break-in and the investigations.  hedgehog   Jul-27-07 03:18 PM   #150 
 

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