mondo joe
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Thu Jul-26-07 08:55 AM
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| 14. I just kept waiting for Brett Sommers to show up. |
| -Question for old-timers: Was Watergate anything like this? |
CatWoman |
Jul-26-07 08:46 AM |
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No |
Atman |
Jul-26-07 08:48 AM |
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And every revelation was aired as soon as it became known |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-26-07 08:50 AM |
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You had 3 channels??? I had 2, but as you said |
shraby |
Jul-26-07 08:51 AM |
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I would listen to the hearings on my car radio at lunch time |
goclark |
Jul-27-07 03:11 PM |
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Even Match Game! |
mondo joe |
Jul-26-07 08:51 AM |
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That's how the bastids sucked this 13 year old into being a polical wonk. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-26-07 08:53 AM |
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I just kept waiting for Brett Sommers to show up. |
mondo joe |
Jul-26-07 08:55 AM |
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I'd have liked to see her question Haldeman and Ehrlichmann... |
blondeatlast |
Jul-26-07 08:59 AM |
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That coulda been good! Then Nipsy Russell could have made up a |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jul-26-07 09:05 AM |
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There once were two tricksters |
blondeatlast |
Jul-26-07 09:34 AM |
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I can really hear him saying that :^D |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jul-26-07 10:07 AM |
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Oh if we're doing Nixon jokes.. |
ananda |
Jul-26-07 12:26 PM |
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Good ones! nt |
blondeatlast |
Jul-26-07 12:47 PM |
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I still have a "Don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw" bumpersticker! n/t |
eridani |
Jul-26-07 10:07 PM |
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You forgot one |
eridani |
Jul-26-07 10:38 PM |
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Ah yes!! Rice graffiti! |
Perragrande |
Jul-26-07 11:41 PM |
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Remember the old song... |
troubleinwinter |
Jul-26-07 06:39 PM |
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That's True, he wasn't impeached |
JPettus |
Jul-26-07 11:53 PM |
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My only hope is that history repeats itself. |
ariesgem |
Jul-27-07 04:06 PM |
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What a great pic. |
troubleinwinter |
Jul-27-07 06:08 PM |
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It was mesmerizing |
wryter2000 |
Jul-26-07 01:50 PM |
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I was 9 and can remember my grandmom being glad when it |
woodsprite |
Jul-26-07 08:53 AM |
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I was born in 1966 - |
NewJeffCT |
Jul-26-07 09:05 AM |
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oh yes, at least we had the media on our side back then. |
alyce douglas |
Jul-26-07 08:54 AM |
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By "our side," I'm assuming you mean "the people." |
Atman |
Jul-26-07 08:59 AM |
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yes, the people's side. |
alyce douglas |
Jul-26-07 09:09 AM |
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Remember Daniel Schorr reading the enemies list? |
wryter2000 |
Jul-26-07 01:53 PM |
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We Had Real Investigative Reporters At That Time That Continued To..... |
global1 |
Jul-26-07 08:55 AM |
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Excellent summary. |
Le Taz Hot |
Jul-26-07 09:40 AM |
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But those investigative reporters were in the WP METRO division, not in the WH press |
ProgressiveEconomist |
Jul-26-07 10:00 AM |
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yep, just a bunch of toadies alright! |
G_j |
Jul-26-07 01:03 PM |
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Woodward , who now writes Bush hagiography ? |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 10:43 PM |
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and now, even Woodward, one the reporters that broke Nixon |
cmt928 |
Jul-27-07 08:08 AM |
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I recall watching the hearings on TV during Social Studies class. |
PA Democrat |
Jul-26-07 09:07 AM |
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And the "soap opera" ladies were pissed! |
MNDemNY |
Jul-26-07 12:13 PM |
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Now THAT I remember....kept interfering with my afternoon cartoons. |
DesertedRose |
Jul-26-07 12:22 PM |
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This old timer would agree with your statement. |
Hepburn |
Jul-26-07 12:57 PM |
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yeah. remember the advocates on PBS, who debated this and it |
roguevalley |
Jul-26-07 02:33 PM |
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I read "All The President's Men" some years back.. |
Virginia Dare |
Jul-26-07 08:51 AM |
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Intell insiders took Nixon down. Look into Sen Robt. F. Bennett's Mullan & Co. background |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 12:15 PM |
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Early pages around 32-36 re the 'Chilean investors' in the Mexican bank |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 10:46 PM |
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Nixon teetered on the brink with the firing of the special prosecutor |
Richardo |
Jul-26-07 08:51 AM |
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Not that Nixon cared much for that old rag.... |
DCKit |
Jul-26-07 09:34 AM |
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Woodward was part of intell and intell ran the operation |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 10:41 PM |
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Do you realize it was Robert Bork who did Nixon's bidding by firing the |
alfredo |
Jul-26-07 10:08 AM |
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Indeed. They went down the list at Justice and all refused to fire Cox until they got to Bork |
Richardo |
Jul-26-07 10:12 AM |
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Loyalty to the junta is all important. |
alfredo |
Jul-26-07 10:19 AM |
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No. And... |
displacedtexan |
Jul-26-07 08:52 AM |
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Link? |
onenote |
Jul-26-07 09:58 AM |
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Link? |
displacedtexan |
Jul-26-07 10:08 AM |
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I remember on the bottom right corner (I think).... |
Hepburn |
Jul-26-07 01:02 PM |
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I remember them discussing the weekly body count |
onenote |
Jul-26-07 01:20 PM |
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Life Magazine one week's war dead pics Memorial Day 1969 issue |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 10:49 PM |
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I was a very small child, but I remember the scroll of those killed that day in Vietnam* |
UnyieldingHierophant |
Jul-26-07 02:19 PM |
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Way back then, we had journalists |
C_U_L8R |
Jul-26-07 08:52 AM |
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This observation cannot be stressed enough... |
KansDem |
Jul-26-07 09:01 AM |
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Watergate inspired the RW "insurgency" |
NewJeffCT |
Jul-26-07 09:09 AM |
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We are eating the fruits of those labors right now and it sucks |
harun |
Jul-26-07 10:20 AM |
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Don't forget the Knights of Malta and other autocratic groups... |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 10:52 PM |
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Bingo |
malaise |
Jul-26-07 09:15 AM |
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It's all about the bottom line. |
Dulcinea |
Jul-26-07 12:01 PM |
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you still do, they just have a harder time being heard. |
TheBaldyMan |
Jul-26-07 09:36 AM |
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I'm not much older than you, but I as a political science major |
groovedaddy |
Jul-26-07 08:53 AM |
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Yes and No. |
Tesha |
Jul-26-07 08:53 AM |
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No |
vpilot |
Jul-26-07 08:58 AM |
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After a while. Nixon needed to rise to the level of being "an embarrasment" first. |
Tesha |
Jul-26-07 09:18 AM |
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Yes And No |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-26-07 08:55 AM |
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You hit the key difference on the nose. |
Buck Rabbit |
Jul-26-07 03:04 PM |
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The Times were different in another way as well |
JPettus |
Jul-27-07 12:27 AM |
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Nixon was not a good person however |
sallyseven |
Jul-26-07 08:56 AM |
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my daughter called me last night |
CatWoman |
Jul-26-07 09:04 AM |
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I bet * gets drunk and talks to Bill Clinton's portrait. |
roamer65 |
Jul-26-07 11:47 PM |
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Lost it? |
JPettus |
Jul-27-07 12:31 AM |
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Nixon wasn't willing to bring the country down with him. |
jtrockville |
Jul-26-07 08:57 AM |
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Do you think there is any chance the media will stop |
woodsprite |
Jul-26-07 08:58 AM |
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No |
azurnoir |
Jul-26-07 09:00 AM |
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No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then. |
leftofthedial |
Jul-26-07 09:00 AM |
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No. There were actual Democrats in Congress then. |
leftofthedial |
Jul-26-07 09:00 AM |
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There were actual Republicans in Congress then as well. |
Major Hogwash |
Jul-26-07 02:16 PM |
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It was more PORTENTIOUS, I think--the hearings on Tee VEE |
MADem |
Jul-26-07 09:01 AM |
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I was working swing shift when the announcement came that he would resign. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-26-07 09:01 AM |
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oh yea, it was a time of celebration when Nixon stepped down. |
alyce douglas |
Jul-26-07 09:53 AM |
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My mom had every kid on the block over for cake and ice cream |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-26-07 10:27 AM |
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When news came of Niixon's resignation... |
sheeptramp |
Jul-26-07 12:28 PM |
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firing the special prosecutor Fox caused a few raised eyebrows |
TheBaldyMan |
Jul-26-07 09:01 AM |
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waddya mean by old-timers? nixon was a prick of the highest order |
spanone |
Jul-26-07 09:05 AM |
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Um, Cheney WAS behind Nixon. |
cryingshame |
Jul-26-07 10:27 AM |
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you're right, not in quite the same capacity as spiro agnew though..... |
spanone |
Jul-26-07 02:19 PM |
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ya, this is what happens when you don't put out a fire entirely. Embers eventually |
cryingshame |
Jul-26-07 03:43 PM |
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Oh, how I wish ALL DUers could grasp the truth of which you speak! |
bobbolink |
Jul-27-07 04:10 PM |
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No. Shrub makes Nixon look like Mr. Rogers. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jul-26-07 09:07 AM |
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Nixon was a choirboy |
Turbineguy |
Jul-26-07 09:12 AM |
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Yes and no. |
H2O Man |
Jul-26-07 09:12 AM |
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Yes -- "smug and cruel." Exactly. A simple-minded monster. n/t |
quiet.american |
Jul-26-07 12:19 PM |
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I don't remember Nixon being this blatantly stupid |
supernova |
Jul-26-07 09:14 AM |
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Definitely not as stupid as * ...but then |
Desertrose |
Jul-26-07 10:04 AM |
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The attitude of the Bush administration is identical to the Nixxon administration |
Gman |
Jul-26-07 09:15 AM |
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that is cheney's vendetta. |
alyce douglas |
Jul-26-07 09:56 AM |
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I was 30 years old. 4 key players, IMHO. |
trof |
Jul-26-07 09:20 AM |
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Please see post #132. Woodward hasn't changed a bit |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 10:55 PM |
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Trof |
CatWoman |
Jul-27-07 03:24 PM |
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Well darn, you're younger than me Cat |
George Oilwellian |
Jul-26-07 09:31 AM |
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I'm tired of my sister calling me an old bat |
CatWoman |
Jul-27-07 03:25 PM |
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Major difference: The investigation was front and center in the media |
BurtWorm |
Jul-26-07 09:35 AM |
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yes yes and yes...but this asshole is making me miss Nixon!! |
flyarm |
Jul-26-07 09:38 AM |
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Do you really want to know why today's youth aren't protesting? |
YOY |
Jul-26-07 12:22 PM |
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I WANT TO SEE IT BUT IT IS NOT PLAYING ANYWHERE NEAR ME..NO WHERE!! |
flyarm |
Jul-26-07 12:58 PM |
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The chains are set in place and he is in his cage...perhaps he won't realize until later |
YOY |
Jul-26-07 01:08 PM |
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perhaps you can download it, or get some to download it for you |
TheBaldyMan |
Jul-26-07 08:55 PM |
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We may very well have to lose the country before they are able to "get it" |
bobbolink |
Jul-27-07 04:15 PM |
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Yes and no... |
TygrBright |
Jul-26-07 09:40 AM |
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The disdain and contempt - quite similar. |
TacticalPeek |
Jul-26-07 09:44 AM |
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Yeah, we need to include John Mitchell. He was the AG and he |
King Coal |
Jul-26-07 09:55 AM |
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Interesting Helen Thomas piece on Martha Mitchell |
Mme. Defarge |
Jul-26-07 02:17 PM |
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Cat, I was a little older than you, but I remember a chef I was |
King Coal |
Jul-26-07 09:45 AM |
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Yes and no. The "no" part = the media weren't quite the lap-dogs, there were no RW shows, |
WinkyDink |
Jul-26-07 09:47 AM |
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No-way! Nixon didn't have the media control * has, Nixon wasn't able |
Imagevision |
Jul-26-07 09:59 AM |
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No. The sheer volume of what we are facing now is much worse |
mmonk |
Jul-26-07 09:59 AM |
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yes and no |
onenote |
Jul-26-07 10:04 AM |
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No.. W makes Tricky Dick look like an altar boy |
nini |
Jul-26-07 10:05 AM |
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That cannot be emphasized enough. Smirk wouldn't qualify to shine Tricky Dick's shoes. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-26-07 10:12 AM |
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YES, and this is a replay of many of the same events.... |
Blackhatjack |
Jul-26-07 10:15 AM |
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The taping system brought him down. |
Perragrande |
Jul-26-07 11:59 PM |
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Yes, In Spades. Watergate was about domestic ops, martial law, and unconstitutional exec behavior |
EVDebs |
Jul-26-07 12:13 PM |
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Yes. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-26-07 12:15 PM |
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No |
kaygore |
Jul-26-07 12:22 PM |
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What's missing is the Republican side of this I think. |
seasonedblue |
Jul-26-07 12:28 PM |
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NO. And, YES, in 1972 we had criminals running the RNC and the WH. |
L. Coyote |
Jul-26-07 12:32 PM |
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I so remember. |
ananda |
Jul-26-07 12:35 PM |
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More names: Liz Holtzman, Peter Rodino |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jul-26-07 01:39 PM |
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The Judiciary should make Liz Holtzman their impeachment counsel. |
IMModerate |
Jul-26-07 05:16 PM |
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Well, she did just write a book... |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Jul-26-07 06:39 PM |
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Yeah, I was living in NY then. And happy to vote for Liz. |
IMModerate |
Jul-27-07 05:28 AM |
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The difference is that the press actually did their job, and did it |
spenbax |
Jul-26-07 12:51 PM |
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For starters, there was an opposition party ... |
Iverson |
Jul-26-07 12:55 PM |
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yes, I was in law school at the time, it is just like this |
Hamlette |
Jul-26-07 12:55 PM |
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You remember it just as I do... I would add Nixon's arrogance brought him down |
Blackhatjack |
Jul-26-07 01:43 PM |
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hubris is very dangerous, unfortunately Bush doesn't have tapes and so far no John Dean |
Hamlette |
Jul-26-07 03:16 PM |
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That's what I remember |
sandnsea |
Jul-26-07 01:50 PM |
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No. Congress wasn't as ideological back then. |
kskiska |
Jul-26-07 01:04 PM |
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I don't think so, |
dmr |
Jul-26-07 01:23 PM |
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a similarity ;THEY DIDNT HAVE THE VOTES TO IMPEACH EITHER! |
sheeptramp |
Jul-26-07 01:32 PM |
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Nixon was arrogant |
wryter2000 |
Jul-26-07 01:49 PM |
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Cat, There Was A Different Dynamic |
KharmaTrain |
Jul-26-07 01:52 PM |
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I guess I really didn't "know" Nixon |
CatWoman |
Jul-27-07 03:31 PM |
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The arrogance of the President and Republicans then was just as great as the Bush Adminstration |
Blackhatjack |
Jul-26-07 02:21 PM |
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The MSM wasn't owned and pimped by |
Jack Sprat |
Jul-26-07 06:43 PM |
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Can you imagine where we would be today |
sgcase |
Jul-26-07 07:13 PM |
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I remember it all... |
troubleinwinter |
Jul-26-07 06:45 PM |
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It was very much like this, with one important fact - |
NancyBreen |
Jul-26-07 07:01 PM |
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Media was different, government was different |
AngryOldDem |
Jul-26-07 07:06 PM |
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If someone had told me in 1973 that 30 years later I'd be avidly looking out for-- |
eridani |
Jul-26-07 10:10 PM |
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Similarities are, Nixon could NEVER allow the 18 minutes content of the erased tape to |
Imagevision |
Jul-26-07 10:24 PM |
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NO. Repukes were semi-normal in those days. People like John Dean existed, thank G-D! Now? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jul-26-07 10:29 PM |
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We did not have the INFORMATION then. |
Bennyboy |
Jul-26-07 10:38 PM |
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Yes. Nixon was an old school thug, though. These guys are much |
pinto |
Jul-26-07 11:05 PM |
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Read Hitchens' book, "The Trial of... |
roamer65 |
Jul-26-07 11:58 PM |
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Not even close....Bush is THE WORST in all of Americas History |
opihimoimoi |
Jul-27-07 01:17 AM |
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Since most of you have said everything |
murielm99 |
Jul-27-07 08:00 AM |
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What I remember is a long quiet time between the break-in and the investigations. |
hedgehog |
Jul-27-07 03:18 PM |
#150 |