Warren DeMontague
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Sun Jul-22-07 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 103. You cannot "make" them spend money. |
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You clearly think people are infants, who cannot be trusted with their own brains, bodies, and life choices, certainly not when confronted by the big, bad demons of advertising.
Not "in their best interest to spend money"? Who, precisely, is supposed to be IN CHARGE of determining what constitutes an individual adult's "best interest" in how to spend their own money? You?
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| -What's the difference between designer vaginas and female genital mutilation? |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:38 PM |
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consent |
leftofthedial |
Jul-22-07 04:38 PM |
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exactly. (nt) |
dorkulon |
Jul-22-07 04:39 PM |
#2 |
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not to mention postoperative function |
Warpy |
Jul-22-07 04:41 PM |
#4 |
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Beat me to it. |
Jed Dilligan |
Jul-22-07 04:42 PM |
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I think a lot of young women consent to FGM because cultural pressures are so overwhelming. |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:44 PM |
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there is a huge difference |
toadzilla |
Jul-24-07 01:39 AM |
#110 |
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Well, the absence of violence is one difference -- |
Katherine Brengle |
Jul-22-07 04:41 PM |
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Are you sure about that? |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:45 PM |
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First of all, comparing male circumcision with FGM is a red herring so don't |
Katherine Brengle |
Jul-22-07 04:52 PM |
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But I think that a lot of women in countries where they do FGM |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:00 PM |
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What 'social norm' forces women to have surgery on their vaginas? |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 04:41 PM |
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Vaginoplasty - .... |
JacquesMolay |
Jul-22-07 05:30 PM |
#58 |
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So Vaginoplasty after childbirth = Designer Vaginas? |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:34 PM |
#60 |
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If you look at some before/after pics... |
Concerned GA Voter |
Jul-22-07 06:48 PM |
#90 |
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When I see models sporting 'Gucci Vaginas' on TV, I will take this seriously. |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 06:53 PM |
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I'm sure there are doctors whose names are as good as Gucci in some circles... |
Concerned GA Voter |
Jul-22-07 07:22 PM |
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I don't know. What's the difference having your penis pierced and forced castration? |
devilgrrl |
Jul-22-07 04:43 PM |
#7 |
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When it's cultural pressures forcing people to make/accept any of those choices |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:51 PM |
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What "cultural pressures forcing people" to have surgery on their vaginas? |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:01 PM |
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If you do a search of the phrase, you'll probably find 20 articles in women's mags |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:05 PM |
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No, it is incumbent upon you to provide proof for your assertions. |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:09 PM |
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I never would have posted this if I hadn't been reading about D.V. for months. |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:12 PM |
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Please provide links to what you read and watch. |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:18 PM |
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Why don't you go do some research at the magazine |
RamboLiberal |
Jul-22-07 05:57 PM |
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If it requires research, is it really that commonly known? |
Sparkly |
Jul-22-07 06:12 PM |
#78 |
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Well I wouldn't exactly call looking at magazine racks |
RamboLiberal |
Jul-22-07 06:16 PM |
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Good point. |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 06:37 PM |
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The women I know that have had them are mostly middle-aged |
Horse with no Name |
Jul-24-07 04:01 AM |
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No, when someone makes a profound, sweeping assertion about "culture," I expect that person |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 06:31 PM |
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Are you assuming that women aren't intelligent enough to consent |
Horse with no Name |
Jul-24-07 03:58 AM |
#116 |
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Look at your question? |
MuseRider |
Jul-22-07 04:44 PM |
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For what reason? For a reason that was invented by a corporation and which |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:46 PM |
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Informed consent |
MuseRider |
Jul-22-07 05:38 PM |
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Sometimes the procedures are medically indicated. |
avrdream |
Jul-22-07 05:39 PM |
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The one woman I know who had it done did so to correct a badly done episiotomy |
havocmom |
Jul-22-07 10:11 PM |
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Oh....how about "consent"....n/t |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 04:45 PM |
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I dunno, but how about the millions of US women with no health insurance? |
OzarkDem |
Jul-22-07 04:48 PM |
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OMG!?! |
OlderButWiser |
Jul-22-07 04:49 PM |
#14 |
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My response, too!! |
Sparkly |
Jul-22-07 04:54 PM |
#20 |
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Me, too! |
LanternWaste |
Jul-24-07 07:15 AM |
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Something you wouldn't catch me doing for any reason |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-22-07 04:55 PM |
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Dayum.... |
Sparkly |
Jul-22-07 05:11 PM |
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This was answered many years ago by... |
OlderButWiser |
Jul-22-07 05:16 PM |
#49 |
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Ben Franklin was very astute |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-22-07 05:19 PM |
#53 |
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Aye |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-22-07 05:18 PM |
#51 |
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I could see it becoming a "trend" if it got a lot of hype |
Sparkly |
Jul-22-07 05:26 PM |
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that's what |
OlderButWiser |
Jul-22-07 05:29 PM |
#57 |
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... |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-22-07 05:47 PM |
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I hope I don't flip on NBC |
OlderButWiser |
Jul-22-07 05:55 PM |
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That would be problematic |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-22-07 06:03 PM |
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As if there aren't enough things they make women feel anxious about |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-22-07 05:49 PM |
#68 |
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Exactly |
Sparkly |
Jul-22-07 05:52 PM |
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Female genitalia does change with age |
Horse with no Name |
Jul-24-07 04:06 AM |
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I'm a 52-year-old female |
pink-o |
Jul-22-07 04:50 PM |
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Don't you think that making women anxious about the size of their vaginas |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:53 PM |
#19 |
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Excuse me? |
MuseRider |
Jul-22-07 06:13 PM |
#79 |
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You cannot "make" them spend money. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 07:31 PM |
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aren't you referring to |
shanti |
Jul-22-07 08:10 PM |
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You MUST be a guy |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 04:52 PM |
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For the fifth time in this thread, on consent: |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:56 PM |
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Sorry |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 05:00 PM |
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See post 19. |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:01 PM |
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"you're going to bad at sex and unhappy if your vagina isn't like it was when you were 16" |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:04 PM |
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see above. Google. |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:06 PM |
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No, I think you should provide the evidence to back your assertions. |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:14 PM |
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He's full of shit |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 05:42 PM |
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I am beginning to think this line of reasoning may actually harm the real debate |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:47 PM |
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Hey Swampy! |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 06:07 PM |
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Arguing that no one is able to consent to ANYTHING you, personally don't approve of makes a mockery |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 05:05 PM |
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In countries where FGM'd mothers accept FGM for their daughters, what drives that consent? |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:09 PM |
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In one case, you're talking about someone making a decision for another, a minor. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 05:12 PM |
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I respect decisions not driven by Fear-Urgency-Disaster -- the salesman's tactic |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:14 PM |
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What FUD? |
LibFromWV |
Jul-22-07 05:51 PM |
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Rather than making some giant list as to which decisions are "permitted" and which aren't, try this |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 07:26 PM |
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What drives it that the girl won't find a husband if that husband isn't assured the she is sexless |
Marrah_G |
Jul-22-07 06:49 PM |
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I think I am going to go schedule one |
Horse with no Name |
Jul-24-07 04:08 AM |
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FGM is very real and cruel |
blogslut |
Jul-22-07 04:54 PM |
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Yes. I hope discussions like this one nip this insanity in the bud. |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:57 PM |
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I dunno about designer V's , |
sheeptramp |
Jul-22-07 05:21 PM |
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People should be free to do as they please with their bodies. |
dkofos |
Jul-22-07 04:55 PM |
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...without having their perceptions of themselves manipulated by profit-driven industries. |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 04:58 PM |
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No, what he said was "people should be free to do what they want with their own bodies". |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 05:08 PM |
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Like smoking? We know how smoking was sold to Americans. It's cool. It's healthy. |
1932 |
Jul-22-07 05:16 PM |
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And lots of people have managed to figure out that it's bad for you. Don't lecture me about smoking, |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 07:40 PM |
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Not what I said |
dkofos |
Jul-22-07 05:15 PM |
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I think the voluntary nature of it is an extremely important.difference |
JVS |
Jul-22-07 05:07 PM |
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What the hell is a "designer vagina?" And, what happens to it |
Skidmore |
Jul-22-07 05:10 PM |
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"DKNY" is emblazoned on the forehead of the newborn. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jul-22-07 05:18 PM |
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Designer vaginas? How did I miss this trend? |
sheeptramp |
Jul-22-07 05:16 PM |
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...."Built in Stereo Surround Sound"... |
pink-o |
Jul-22-07 05:29 PM |
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If I see iVaginas I will concede that we may have a problem. |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 05:32 PM |
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"iVaginas" |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 06:08 PM |
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Do I win anything? |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-22-07 06:14 PM |
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You should absolutely win a DUzy...n/t |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 06:18 PM |
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Dude, that's why you're one of the ones who make this place worthwhile. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 07:27 PM |
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I'll be first in line. |
toadzilla |
Jul-24-07 01:47 AM |
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Attachment disorder? |
InkAddict |
Jul-22-07 07:04 PM |
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Will my new vagina be available in a choice of designer colors? |
sheeptramp |
Jul-24-07 08:52 AM |
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The former have labels. |
rug |
Jul-22-07 05:16 PM |
#48 |
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women who choose designer vaginas are much older and have much more freedom to choose |
pitohui |
Jul-22-07 05:42 PM |
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Ahh |
Madspirit |
Jul-22-07 06:09 PM |
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I want my new designer V to have |
JitterbugPerfume |
Jul-22-07 05:48 PM |
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ROFL! |
Geek_Girl |
Jul-22-07 06:22 PM |
#83 |
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Adults can consent to |
Dorian Gray |
Jul-22-07 05:57 PM |
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Why can't we have a thread on designer penises and male mutilation/castration? |
undeterred |
Jul-22-07 06:28 PM |
#84 |
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If my penis were... |
Concerned GA Voter |
Jul-22-07 06:53 PM |
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Because no one started one yet? |
Maddy McCall |
Jul-22-07 07:08 PM |
#97 |
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Google "subincision" and "meatotomy" |
jmowreader |
Jul-24-07 01:28 AM |
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I'd love to know what percentage of people in the U.S |
irislake |
Jul-22-07 06:35 PM |
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Consent AND designer vaginas are not intended to void pleasure permenantly AND |
Marrah_G |
Jul-22-07 06:39 PM |
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I can't help but picture "designer" vaginas going down the fashion runway. |
Bluebear |
Jul-22-07 06:40 PM |
#89 |
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Ummm, Labia vs Clitoris? |
ShaneGR |
Jul-22-07 06:50 PM |
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Anaesthesia? Hospital settings? Doctors? Patient status? Patient choice? |
WinkyDink |
Jul-22-07 07:06 PM |
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Here's the scariest one |
jmowreader |
Jul-22-07 07:11 PM |
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"privilege" and "deflower" |
MuseRider |
Jul-22-07 08:06 PM |
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One is a choice - the other is not. |
emilyg |
Jul-22-07 07:25 PM |
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I want that detachable one, |
sandnsea |
Jul-24-07 01:37 AM |
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Thats like comparing boob jobs to breast removal by a serial killer, |
MiltonF |
Jul-24-07 01:56 AM |
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exactly. n/t |
toadzilla |
Jul-24-07 01:58 AM |
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consent, or the illusion thereof |
NuttyFluffers |
Jul-24-07 02:54 AM |
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The mindset required to manufacture consent to this is just sick. |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-24-07 03:24 AM |
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Designer vaginas??? Excuse me while I google....nt |
calteacherguy |
Jul-24-07 04:04 AM |
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Laughing out loud |
B Calm |
Jul-24-07 06:37 AM |
#121 |
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It is all about the Choice and always will be |
bleedingheart |
Jul-24-07 08:59 AM |
#124 |
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In the movie Shadowlands |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-24-07 09:01 AM |
#125 |
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