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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #69
71. That's ok -- I drive two hummers at once and eat roast dolphin for breakfast
We all have our vices, I suppose.

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  -Wouldn't having a child be the worst thing a person can do for the environment? RGBolen  Jul-21-07 12:24 AM   #0 
  - What if that child is raised to fight for the environment  wtmusic   Jul-21-07 12:26 AM   #1 
  - Yes, there are too many people.  Lasher   Jul-21-07 12:26 AM   #2 
  - Too many people, quite probably. What would you do resolve that problem?  HypnoToad   Jul-21-07 09:08 AM   #36 
  - I don't know if the problem can be resolved  Lasher   Jul-21-07 10:44 AM   #55 
  - I think some Presidential leadership would help  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-21-07 12:33 PM   #92 
     - There are some things we could do if we think about it.  Lasher   Jul-21-07 02:11 PM   #119 
  - Making the public practice of religion something to be ridiculed  greyhound1966   Jul-21-07 01:56 PM   #116 
     - Yes, if it weren't for religion nobody would fuck each other.  spoony   Jul-21-07 04:26 PM   # 
        - Not at all, there would likely be a lot more fucking, just without all the guilt  greyhound1966   Jul-21-07 10:14 PM   #182 
  - It is the biggest problem  Yupster   Jul-21-07 03:47 PM   #147 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-21-07 12:27 AM   #3 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-21-07 12:51 AM   #14 
  - I think you're going to get some serious debate on this one.....  pepperbear   Jul-21-07 12:27 AM   #4 
  - If it's your child, the environment doesn't matter. Your child could  babylonsister   Jul-21-07 12:29 AM   #5 
  - Nope...  Contrary1   Jul-21-07 12:29 AM   #6 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-21-07 01:42 AM   #16 
  - With that logic, why not have 15 kids....  theHandpuppet   Jul-21-07 02:33 PM   #127 
  - Depends on who the child grows up to be.  Jed Dilligan   Jul-21-07 12:30 AM   #7 
  - No way.  emilyg   Jul-21-07 12:32 AM   #8 
  - For Barbara Bush maybe nt  wtmusic   Jul-21-07 12:36 AM   #9 
  - that's why I choose to be childless in the 70s n/t  AZDemDist6   Jul-21-07 12:38 AM   #10 
  - Unless you want a world made up entirely of old people, no  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-21-07 12:39 AM   #11 
  - We are not replacing anyone, sorry  RGBolen   Jul-21-07 12:40 AM   #12 
     - I'm not either, but I don't condemn people who have one or two children  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-21-07 08:15 AM   #28 
  - The 'environment' will survive - it's people that won't.  TahitiNut   Jul-21-07 12:50 AM   #13 
  - I keep thinking of the lesson of Easter Island  Lasher   Jul-21-07 10:56 AM   #61 
  - Have you read the book "Collapse?"  Yupster   Jul-21-07 03:50 PM   #149 
     - No, I'll have to check it out.  Lasher   Jul-22-07 03:20 AM   #197 
  - Good post. I fear that justice. There is no question that our species has wasted, a sin which Earth  glitch   Jul-21-07 11:39 AM   #73 
  - Yeah, the long-term survival of humanity. Which requires, among other things, what?  impeachdubya   Jul-22-07 01:15 AM   #192 
  - Yeah, that's what this planet needs -- More people.  RC   Jul-21-07 01:09 AM   #15 
  - Uh. No.  votesomemore   Jul-21-07 01:43 AM   #17 
  - Oh, for fuck's sake.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 01:50 AM   #18 
  - You noticed that, too, huh? n/t  kgfnally   Jul-21-07 02:02 AM   #20 
  - .  TheFriendlyAnarchist   Jul-21-07 03:08 PM   #142 
  - People can scoff but very few can raise a cogent argument against this  jgraz   Jul-21-07 02:00 AM   #19 
  - Yeah, I'll raise a cogent argument. RUN YOUR OWN GOD DAMN LIFE....  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 02:22 AM   #22 
  - hmm...sounds like somebody isn't all that happy with the life choices they've made  jgraz   Jul-21-07 03:05 AM   #23 
  - I thought it was funny as hell and I LOVE my life choices.  Clark2008   Jul-21-07 10:45 AM   #56 
  - Yep, those kids are damn cute  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:54 AM   #60 
  - simple explanation  Bluerthanblue   Jul-21-07 12:27 PM   #88 
  - Maybe...  jgraz   Jul-21-07 01:00 PM   #101 
     - How else would you  Bluerthanblue   Jul-21-07 01:38 PM   #108 
        - How would I expect someone to take it? For starters, like a rational adult.  jgraz   Jul-22-07 12:19 AM   #188 
  - Touche  theHandpuppet   Jul-21-07 02:17 PM   #124 
     - Uh, you say "touche" when someone you disagree with makes a point that convinces you.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 02:45 PM   #134 
  - As are mine.  Midlodemocrat   Jul-21-07 12:35 PM   #95 
  - Yeah, Until They Get to be Teenagers.  Megahurtz   Jul-21-07 01:36 PM   #106 
  - Yeah, it was funny. If you find ignorant tirades funny, I guess.  Harper_is_Bush   Jul-21-07 04:33 PM   #164 
  - I didn't get that impression at all.  Blue in Portland   Jul-21-07 12:28 PM   #90 
  - Yeah, that's exactly it.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 02:42 PM   #132 
  - Projecting...heh. The adult version of the I'm Rubber/You're Glue argument  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:04 PM   #179 
     - Why the bile? Hmmmmm, let's see. First off, in the past 10 days, these are some of the adjectives  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 11:00 PM   #185 
        - ok, maybe staying in the here and now is something you could work on  jgraz   Jul-22-07 12:04 AM   #187 
           - Sigh.  impeachdubya   Jul-22-07 01:06 AM   #191 
              - Then your argument is with the OP *on that other thread*  jgraz   Jul-22-07 01:27 AM   #193 
                 - Pfffffft.  impeachdubya   Jul-22-07 01:44 AM   #195 
  - Including your own? (nt)  The Straight Story   Jul-22-07 03:26 PM   #201 
     - haha -- I certainly have a few I'd like to get back  jgraz   Jul-22-07 03:58 PM   #204 
  - I would shoot off FIREWORKS for your post if I could! Fuckin' great!  Veganistan   Jul-21-07 03:50 AM   #24 
  - Interesting response given your name and avatar  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:44 AM   #54 
     - Only if you'll give me back the taxes for the roads I don't  Clark2008   Jul-21-07 10:48 AM   #58 
     - Exactly my point  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:51 AM   #59 
     - Normally, I wouldn't jump in here  chefgirl   Jul-21-07 01:55 PM   #115 
     - Is the instinct to reproduce a separate desire from sex ?  wuushew   Jul-21-07 02:13 PM   #121 
     - You've made my point, thanks  chefgirl   Jul-21-07 02:24 PM   #126 
        - Why not? Simply because of scale?  wuushew   Jul-21-07 02:40 PM   #131 
           - I'm well aware of the Easter Island story  chefgirl   Jul-21-07 02:49 PM   #136 
           - But isn't there some limit  Yupster   Jul-21-07 03:59 PM   #155 
           - Great book  Yupster   Jul-21-07 04:00 PM   #156 
           - The universe is likely infinite.  girl gone mad   Jul-21-07 04:26 PM   #160 
              - Another planet? OK, now this conversation has definitely gone round the bend  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:11 PM   #180 
              - The Easter Island argument is  Yupster   Jul-22-07 12:45 PM   #198 
     - "I don't believe population, per se, or reproductive choices are truly the problem"  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:00 PM   #177 
        - Oohh, don't I feel told??  chefgirl   Jul-22-07 03:05 PM   #200 
           - I'm gonna guess "no"  jgraz   Jul-22-07 04:03 PM   #205 
     - Don't gripe to us about it. Complain to your parents.  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-07 03:56 PM   #154 
     - It's stupid because schools make or break a community  AngryOldDem   Jul-21-07 03:55 PM   #152 
     - Who the fuck paid for your education?  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-07 03:55 PM   #153 
        - Missing the point  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:02 PM   #178 
           - You'll wait?  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-07 11:08 PM   #186 
              - Yes, I'm being a prick. Me, that's who's the prick  jgraz   Jul-22-07 12:22 AM   #189 
  - >  Bunny   Jul-21-07 05:30 AM   #26 
  - Not. n/t  Megahurtz   Jul-21-07 01:40 PM   #110 
  - Overpopulation occurred in the US, Europe and Japan a long time ago  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-21-07 05:47 AM   #27 
  - The point is, the regions that have the population problems need contraception, education  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 03:07 PM   #141 
     - But you're assuming that because the American population only grows slowly  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-21-07 07:08 PM   #173 
        - You mean, while people are busy lecturing, they're not using resources?  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 08:04 PM   #174 
  - Thank you, thank you, thank you!  blondeatlast   Jul-21-07 08:56 AM   #32 
  - Your spot on!  Geek_Girl   Jul-21-07 09:12 AM   #38 
  - Thank you.  Blue_In_AK   Jul-21-07 10:14 AM   #47 
  - I always find it amusing  JulieRB   Jul-21-07 11:08 AM   #63 
  - Yep.  TahitiNut   Jul-21-07 11:17 AM   #64 
  - Yep. You nailed it.  jgraz   Jul-21-07 11:25 AM   #66 
  - Yep. Those Self-Centered People  Megahurtz   Jul-21-07 01:48 PM   #112 
  - Yes, being a parent is an incredibly selfish act.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 04:54 PM   #169 
  - No, not everyone who doesn't have kids is a self-righteous ass.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 02:43 PM   #133 
     - Oh. Gosh, I feel so much better now.  JulieRB   Jul-21-07 03:23 PM   #144 
        - No, you don't understand what I meant.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 04:16 PM   #157 
           - Nice personal attack!  JulieRB   Jul-21-07 08:20 PM   #176 
              - Cool.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 10:18 PM   #183 
  - Well said.  TheWraith   Jul-21-07 11:25 AM   #65 
  - I have no confidence that our country will be able to feed itself in 70 years  TheBorealAvenger   Jul-21-07 11:46 AM   #75 
  - "Here's a clove cigarette..."  Vektor   Jul-21-07 12:01 PM   #78 
  - lol -- bigotry is a hoot  jgraz   Jul-21-07 12:06 PM   #80 
     - I see bigotry and preconceived notions coming from ALL angles  Vektor   Jul-21-07 12:18 PM   #84 
     - Wow, talk about a false equivalency  jgraz   Jul-21-07 12:25 PM   #87 
        - You see it how you want to, and knock yourself out...  Vektor   Jul-21-07 12:33 PM   #91 
     - If you had any idea whatsoever about "my situation", you'd know what a joke that is.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 02:54 PM   #137 
        - Still waiting for rational debate instead of ranting and mindless chest-thumping  jgraz   Jul-22-07 01:52 AM   #196 
  - What???  Megahurtz   Jul-21-07 01:34 PM   #105 
  - The overpopulation is due to immigration, not birth rates.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 03:03 PM   #138 
  - That is true  wuushew   Jul-21-07 03:07 PM   #140 
  - Bangladesh has a population density of 2850/sq. mi. The US has 84.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-21-07 05:27 PM   #172 
  - There's nothing wrong with making the point. Your rude reaction to it is the only  Harper_is_Bush   Jul-21-07 04:30 PM   #162 
  - Al Gore Still Might Run.  impeachdubya   Jul-21-07 04:35 PM   #165 
  - I just love your post here!  DemExpat   Jul-21-07 04:39 PM   #167 
  - Halle-freakin-lujah!  IA_Seth   Jul-22-07 03:31 PM   #203 
  - Yes, actually it does count.  skids   Jul-21-07 10:17 AM   #48 
  - OK  jgraz   Jul-21-07 10:30 AM   #50 
     - Completely unconvincing.  skids   Jul-21-07 11:43 AM   #74 
     - The reproductive arms race is kind of a scary argument  jgraz   Jul-21-07 11:52 AM   #77 
        - Fantasy land...  skids   Jul-21-07 03:53 PM   #150 
     - Well woudn't that be a good thing...  girl gone mad   Jul-21-07 03:50 PM   #148 
  - LOL. What crap. How about the argument that  Midlodemocrat   Jul-21-07 12:34 PM   #94 
  - Wouldn't suicide be the best thing a person can do for the environment?  Der Blaue Engel   Jul-21-07 02:17 AM   #21 
  - sorry, i didn't  Bluerthanblue   Jul-21-07 09:36 AM   #43 
  - That was dumb  TheBorealAvenger   Jul-21-07 11:47 AM   #76 
  - If you're dumb and you know it, clap your hands  Der Blaue Engel   Jul-21-07 03:06 PM   #139 
  - They are not mutually exclusive  wuushew   Jul-21-07 12:51 PM   #99 
  - well, this takes it even  Bluerthanblue   Jul-21-07 01:06 PM   #102 
     - what don't you understand about suicide?  wuushew   Jul-21-07 01:27 PM   #103 
        - - sorry-  Bluerthanblue   Jul-21-07 01:41 PM   #111 
  - Not only that, but Bush is the numero uno environmentalist  spoony   Jul-21-07 04:29 PM   #161 
  - It would be better for planet earth if there were no humans here at all.  cassiepriam   Jul-21-07 05:19 AM   #25 
  - To borrow the vegan argument...  cobalt1999   Jul-21-07 08:27 AM   #29 
  - Yes, the world would be better off if there weren't any people  gollygee   Jul-21-07 08:30 AM   #30 
  - No.  LWolf   Jul-21-07 08:31 AM   #31 
  - To quote Jerry Seinfeld;  zanne   Jul-21-07 08:58 AM   #33 
  - Are you thinking your parents made a mistake when they had you?  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-07 08:58 AM   #34 
  - The theory (and what Catholic clergymen say on TV) is, we need our next generation of scientists...  HypnoToad   Jul-21-07 09:00 AM   #35 
  - Yeah, I think I know why Catholic clergymen want us all to have kids.  Lex   Jul-21-07 09:08 AM   #37 
     - I was referring to a guy on the Catholic channel - I e-mailed him on his broadcast...  HypnoToad   Jul-21-07 09:13 AM   #39 
  - By the same logic, death would be the best.  rucky   Jul-21-07 09:14 AM   #40 
  - No that would be completely different logic  jgraz   Jul-21-07 12:04 PM   #79 
     - The same fallacy of the OP's premise.  rucky   Jul-21-07 01:50 PM   #113 
  - That's a BIT rhetorical, RGB!  baby_mouse   Jul-21-07 09:25 AM   #41 
  - why don't we promote suicide as being good for the environment?  Bluerthanblue   Jul-21-07 09:34 AM   #42 
  - It's the consumptive habits of the child and family  ikojo   Jul-21-07 09:49 AM   #44 
  - Thank you.  MrsMatt   Jul-21-07 10:48 AM   #57 
  - true, but unless we effect radical change in our way of life...  jgraz   Jul-21-07 12:11 PM   #82 
     - An this is an interesting problem  Yupster   Jul-21-07 04:17 PM   #158 
        - I gotta read that book  jgraz   Jul-22-07 01:01 AM   #190 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-21-07 09:55 AM   #45 
  - Only if you consider a depopulated world a proper environment.  rug   Jul-21-07 10:03 AM   #46 
  - I Support Reproductive Freedom  javadu   Jul-21-07 10:26 AM   #49 
  - I do too, I was just asking how high it ranks on the list  RGBolen   Jul-21-07 10:35 AM   #51 
  - Actually, having 3,4,5,6, or more children would be even worse for the environment  kenny blankenship   Jul-21-07 10:35 AM   #52 
  - Can we just agree that mothers should cooperate with flight attendants and not knock all children?  Nikki Stone1   Jul-21-07 10:38 AM   #53 
  - it is what the environment will do the child .  donsu   Jul-21-07 11:08 AM   #62 
  - The worst thing?  lwfern   Jul-21-07 11:30 AM   #67 
  - People with children should be ashamed of themselves...  SayWhatYo   Jul-21-07 11:33 AM   #68 
  - lol  Rhoads   Jul-21-07 11:35 AM   #70 
  - I have 3 children. I am sorry.  Rhoads   Jul-21-07 11:33 AM   #69 
  - That's ok -- I drive two hummers at once and eat roast dolphin for breakfast  jgraz   Jul-21-07 11:35 AM   #71 
     - actually,  Rhoads   Jul-21-07 11:38 AM   #72 
     - I eat Hummers for breakfast and ride two dolphins at once.  Vektor   Jul-21-07 12:09 PM   #81 
        - Just as long as you don't tell me how to live my life!!  jgraz   Jul-21-07 12:13 PM   #83 
           - Mine runs on bat guano.  Vektor   Jul-21-07 12:20 PM   #85 
              - I call bullshit on that one  jgraz   Jul-21-07 12:28 PM   #89 
                 - Ok, call all you want.  Vektor   Jul-21-07 12:35 PM   #96 
  - depends what that child does  ryanus   Jul-21-07 12:22 PM   #86 
  - What if Gandhi's mother had said that?  proud2Blib   Jul-21-07 12:34 PM   #93 
  - As long as Barbara Bush said it too  jgraz   Jul-21-07 12:54 PM   #100 
  - IMO - yes - tis why I never had any - one reason anyway (n/t)  Triana   Jul-21-07 12:38 PM   #97 
  - Starting a war is pretty bad.  Bosso 63   Jul-21-07 12:40 PM   #98 
  - Not if that child will grow up to invent a solution to it. - n/t  porphyrian   Jul-21-07 01:30 PM   #104 
  - If I were still young enough I would not bring a child into this world  blues90   Jul-21-07 01:37 PM   #107 
  - Chalk This Up As One Of The Most Idiotic Flame Baiting Premises I've Ever Seen Here.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-21-07 01:39 PM   #109 
  - Oh Come On.  Megahurtz   Jul-21-07 01:54 PM   #114 
     - No, I Posted My Real Thoughts.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-21-07 02:01 PM   #117 
     - Never stopped him before.  greyhound1966   Jul-21-07 02:02 PM   #118 
        - Oh Grow Up With Your Empty Personal Moronic Attacks Already.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-21-07 02:36 PM   #128 
           - If they did that, they'd have to stop posting.  spoony   Jul-21-07 04:32 PM   #163 
           - Oh No, I've Brought The Wrath And Pity Of The Omnipotent OCM Down On My Poor Self  greyhound1966   Jul-21-07 10:19 PM   #184 
  - If there were no more children  Madspirit   Jul-21-07 02:12 PM   #120 
  - We could always transfer our minds to android bodies  wuushew   Jul-21-07 02:23 PM   #125 
     - I like that idea!...n/t  Madspirit   Jul-21-07 03:53 PM   #151 
  - I think it's true that people in general are harmful to the Earth.  Lex   Jul-21-07 02:15 PM   #122 
  - Probably starting a war - ordering DU to be strewn around  salin   Jul-21-07 02:16 PM   #123 
  - I don't know, but Alice the Cook says,  sl8   Jul-21-07 02:37 PM   #129 
  - You're right...nobody should have kids...nt  SidDithers   Jul-21-07 02:39 PM   #130 
  - It would be nice if on this topic, as on many, we could have a discussion of a third way  nam78_two   Jul-21-07 02:48 PM   #135 
  - If...  Kazak   Jul-21-07 03:11 PM   #143 
  - Yes  Yupster   Jul-21-07 04:23 PM   #159 
     - As is ours.  Kazak   Jul-21-07 05:04 PM   #170 
  - Easy one. No.  gulliver   Jul-21-07 03:41 PM   #145 
  - Not as long as he is a sterile vegan who cleans up after himself.  undeterred   Jul-21-07 03:46 PM   #146 
  - I don't drink with you.  theNotoriousP.I.G.   Jul-21-07 04:36 PM   #166 
  - Apparently not--I alerted on this mess early this morning! nt  blondeatlast   Jul-21-07 10:13 PM   #181 
  - And by extension, suicide is the best thing to do.  SmokingJacket   Jul-21-07 04:40 PM   #168 
  - Depends on which child it is  treestar   Jul-21-07 05:05 PM   #171 
  - Perhaps we should reconsider the desire to end the war in Iraq?  JVS   Jul-21-07 08:18 PM   #175 
  - Yes, because deciding to not have children is exactly the same as killing someone  jgraz   Jul-22-07 01:31 AM   #194 
     - I knew that desire to not have any children was part of a killer instinct..........  nolabels   Jul-22-07 01:18 PM   #199 
  - Too bad ya can't go back in time and tell your parents before they screwed up the environment  The Straight Story   Jul-22-07 03:29 PM   #202 
     - Dude, if I could go back in time, I'd be paying a visit to Kennebunkport  jgraz   Jul-22-07 04:08 PM   #206 
 

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