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Sometimes the dumbfuckery around here reaches pretty ridiculous levels.
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| -Wouldn't having a child be the worst thing a person can do for the environment? |
RGBolen |
Jul-21-07 12:24 AM |
#0 |
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What if that child is raised to fight for the environment |
wtmusic |
Jul-21-07 12:26 AM |
#1 |
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Yes, there are too many people. |
Lasher |
Jul-21-07 12:26 AM |
#2 |
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Too many people, quite probably. What would you do resolve that problem? |
HypnoToad |
Jul-21-07 09:08 AM |
#36 |
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I don't know if the problem can be resolved |
Lasher |
Jul-21-07 10:44 AM |
#55 |
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I think some Presidential leadership would help |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Jul-21-07 12:33 PM |
#92 |
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There are some things we could do if we think about it. |
Lasher |
Jul-21-07 02:11 PM |
#119 |
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Making the public practice of religion something to be ridiculed |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-21-07 01:56 PM |
#116 |
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Yes, if it weren't for religion nobody would fuck each other. |
spoony |
Jul-21-07 04:26 PM |
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Not at all, there would likely be a lot more fucking, just without all the guilt |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-21-07 10:14 PM |
#182 |
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It is the biggest problem |
Yupster |
Jul-21-07 03:47 PM |
#147 |
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Name removed |
Jul-21-07 12:27 AM |
#3 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-21-07 12:51 AM |
#14 |
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I think you're going to get some serious debate on this one..... |
pepperbear |
Jul-21-07 12:27 AM |
#4 |
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If it's your child, the environment doesn't matter. Your child could |
babylonsister |
Jul-21-07 12:29 AM |
#5 |
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Nope... |
Contrary1 |
Jul-21-07 12:29 AM |
#6 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-21-07 01:42 AM |
#16 |
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With that logic, why not have 15 kids.... |
theHandpuppet |
Jul-21-07 02:33 PM |
#127 |
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Depends on who the child grows up to be. |
Jed Dilligan |
Jul-21-07 12:30 AM |
#7 |
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No way. |
emilyg |
Jul-21-07 12:32 AM |
#8 |
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For Barbara Bush maybe nt |
wtmusic |
Jul-21-07 12:36 AM |
#9 |
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that's why I choose to be childless in the 70s n/t |
AZDemDist6 |
Jul-21-07 12:38 AM |
#10 |
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Unless you want a world made up entirely of old people, no |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-21-07 12:39 AM |
#11 |
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We are not replacing anyone, sorry |
RGBolen |
Jul-21-07 12:40 AM |
#12 |
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I'm not either, but I don't condemn people who have one or two children |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-21-07 08:15 AM |
#28 |
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The 'environment' will survive - it's people that won't. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-21-07 12:50 AM |
#13 |
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I keep thinking of the lesson of Easter Island |
Lasher |
Jul-21-07 10:56 AM |
#61 |
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Have you read the book "Collapse?" |
Yupster |
Jul-21-07 03:50 PM |
#149 |
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No, I'll have to check it out. |
Lasher |
Jul-22-07 03:20 AM |
#197 |
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Good post. I fear that justice. There is no question that our species has wasted, a sin which Earth |
glitch |
Jul-21-07 11:39 AM |
#73 |
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Yeah, the long-term survival of humanity. Which requires, among other things, what? |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 01:15 AM |
#192 |
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Yeah, that's what this planet needs -- More people. |
RC |
Jul-21-07 01:09 AM |
#15 |
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Uh. No. |
votesomemore |
Jul-21-07 01:43 AM |
#17 |
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Oh, for fuck's sake. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 01:50 AM |
#18 |
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You noticed that, too, huh? n/t |
kgfnally |
Jul-21-07 02:02 AM |
#20 |
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. |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Jul-21-07 03:08 PM |
#142 |
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People can scoff but very few can raise a cogent argument against this |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 02:00 AM |
#19 |
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Yeah, I'll raise a cogent argument. RUN YOUR OWN GOD DAMN LIFE.... |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 02:22 AM |
#22 |
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hmm...sounds like somebody isn't all that happy with the life choices they've made |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 03:05 AM |
#23 |
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I thought it was funny as hell and I LOVE my life choices. |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-07 10:45 AM |
#56 |
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Yep, those kids are damn cute |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:54 AM |
#60 |
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simple explanation |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-21-07 12:27 PM |
#88 |
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Maybe... |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 01:00 PM |
#101 |
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How else would you |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-21-07 01:38 PM |
#108 |
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How would I expect someone to take it? For starters, like a rational adult. |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 12:19 AM |
#188 |
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Touche |
theHandpuppet |
Jul-21-07 02:17 PM |
#124 |
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Uh, you say "touche" when someone you disagree with makes a point that convinces you. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 02:45 PM |
#134 |
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As are mine. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jul-21-07 12:35 PM |
#95 |
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Yeah, Until They Get to be Teenagers. |
Megahurtz |
Jul-21-07 01:36 PM |
#106 |
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Yeah, it was funny. If you find ignorant tirades funny, I guess. |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jul-21-07 04:33 PM |
#164 |
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I didn't get that impression at all. |
Blue in Portland |
Jul-21-07 12:28 PM |
#90 |
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Yeah, that's exactly it. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 02:42 PM |
#132 |
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Projecting...heh. The adult version of the I'm Rubber/You're Glue argument |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:04 PM |
#179 |
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Why the bile? Hmmmmm, let's see. First off, in the past 10 days, these are some of the adjectives |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 11:00 PM |
#185 |
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ok, maybe staying in the here and now is something you could work on |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 12:04 AM |
#187 |
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Sigh. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 01:06 AM |
#191 |
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Then your argument is with the OP *on that other thread* |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 01:27 AM |
#193 |
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Pfffffft. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-22-07 01:44 AM |
#195 |
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Including your own? (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Jul-22-07 03:26 PM |
#201 |
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haha -- I certainly have a few I'd like to get back |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 03:58 PM |
#204 |
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I would shoot off FIREWORKS for your post if I could! Fuckin' great! |
Veganistan |
Jul-21-07 03:50 AM |
#24 |
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Interesting response given your name and avatar |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:44 AM |
#54 |
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Only if you'll give me back the taxes for the roads I don't |
Clark2008 |
Jul-21-07 10:48 AM |
#58 |
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Exactly my point |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:51 AM |
#59 |
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Normally, I wouldn't jump in here |
chefgirl |
Jul-21-07 01:55 PM |
#115 |
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Is the instinct to reproduce a separate desire from sex ? |
wuushew |
Jul-21-07 02:13 PM |
#121 |
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You've made my point, thanks |
chefgirl |
Jul-21-07 02:24 PM |
#126 |
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Why not? Simply because of scale? |
wuushew |
Jul-21-07 02:40 PM |
#131 |
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I'm well aware of the Easter Island story |
chefgirl |
Jul-21-07 02:49 PM |
#136 |
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But isn't there some limit |
Yupster |
Jul-21-07 03:59 PM |
#155 |
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Great book |
Yupster |
Jul-21-07 04:00 PM |
#156 |
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The universe is likely infinite. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-21-07 04:26 PM |
#160 |
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Another planet? OK, now this conversation has definitely gone round the bend |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:11 PM |
#180 |
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The Easter Island argument is |
Yupster |
Jul-22-07 12:45 PM |
#198 |
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"I don't believe population, per se, or reproductive choices are truly the problem" |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:00 PM |
#177 |
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Oohh, don't I feel told?? |
chefgirl |
Jul-22-07 03:05 PM |
#200 |
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I'm gonna guess "no" |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 04:03 PM |
#205 |
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Don't gripe to us about it. Complain to your parents. |
Telly Savalas |
Jul-21-07 03:56 PM |
#154 |
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It's stupid because schools make or break a community |
AngryOldDem |
Jul-21-07 03:55 PM |
#152 |
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Who the fuck paid for your education? |
Telly Savalas |
Jul-21-07 03:55 PM |
#153 |
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Missing the point |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:02 PM |
#178 |
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You'll wait? |
Telly Savalas |
Jul-21-07 11:08 PM |
#186 |
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Yes, I'm being a prick. Me, that's who's the prick |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 12:22 AM |
#189 |
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> |
Bunny |
Jul-21-07 05:30 AM |
#26 |
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Not. n/t |
Megahurtz |
Jul-21-07 01:40 PM |
#110 |
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Overpopulation occurred in the US, Europe and Japan a long time ago |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-21-07 05:47 AM |
#27 |
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The point is, the regions that have the population problems need contraception, education |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 03:07 PM |
#141 |
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But you're assuming that because the American population only grows slowly |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-21-07 07:08 PM |
#173 |
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You mean, while people are busy lecturing, they're not using resources? |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 08:04 PM |
#174 |
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! |
blondeatlast |
Jul-21-07 08:56 AM |
#32 |
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Your spot on! |
Geek_Girl |
Jul-21-07 09:12 AM |
#38 |
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Thank you. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jul-21-07 10:14 AM |
#47 |
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I always find it amusing |
JulieRB |
Jul-21-07 11:08 AM |
#63 |
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Yep. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-21-07 11:17 AM |
#64 |
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Yep. You nailed it. |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 11:25 AM |
#66 |
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Yep. Those Self-Centered People |
Megahurtz |
Jul-21-07 01:48 PM |
#112 |
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Yes, being a parent is an incredibly selfish act. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 04:54 PM |
#169 |
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No, not everyone who doesn't have kids is a self-righteous ass. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 02:43 PM |
#133 |
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Oh. Gosh, I feel so much better now. |
JulieRB |
Jul-21-07 03:23 PM |
#144 |
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No, you don't understand what I meant. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 04:16 PM |
#157 |
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Nice personal attack! |
JulieRB |
Jul-21-07 08:20 PM |
#176 |
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Cool. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 10:18 PM |
#183 |
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Well said. |
TheWraith |
Jul-21-07 11:25 AM |
#65 |
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I have no confidence that our country will be able to feed itself in 70 years |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-21-07 11:46 AM |
#75 |
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"Here's a clove cigarette..." |
Vektor |
Jul-21-07 12:01 PM |
#78 |
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lol -- bigotry is a hoot |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 12:06 PM |
#80 |
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I see bigotry and preconceived notions coming from ALL angles |
Vektor |
Jul-21-07 12:18 PM |
#84 |
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Wow, talk about a false equivalency |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 12:25 PM |
#87 |
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You see it how you want to, and knock yourself out... |
Vektor |
Jul-21-07 12:33 PM |
#91 |
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If you had any idea whatsoever about "my situation", you'd know what a joke that is. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 02:54 PM |
#137 |
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Still waiting for rational debate instead of ranting and mindless chest-thumping |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 01:52 AM |
#196 |
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What??? |
Megahurtz |
Jul-21-07 01:34 PM |
#105 |
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The overpopulation is due to immigration, not birth rates. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 03:03 PM |
#138 |
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That is true |
wuushew |
Jul-21-07 03:07 PM |
#140 |
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Bangladesh has a population density of 2850/sq. mi. The US has 84. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-21-07 05:27 PM |
#172 |
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There's nothing wrong with making the point. Your rude reaction to it is the only |
Harper_is_Bush |
Jul-21-07 04:30 PM |
#162 |
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Al Gore Still Might Run. |
impeachdubya |
Jul-21-07 04:35 PM |
#165 |
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I just love your post here! |
DemExpat |
Jul-21-07 04:39 PM |
#167 |
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Halle-freakin-lujah! |
IA_Seth |
Jul-22-07 03:31 PM |
#203 |
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Yes, actually it does count. |
skids |
Jul-21-07 10:17 AM |
#48 |
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OK |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 10:30 AM |
#50 |
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Completely unconvincing. |
skids |
Jul-21-07 11:43 AM |
#74 |
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The reproductive arms race is kind of a scary argument |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 11:52 AM |
#77 |
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Fantasy land... |
skids |
Jul-21-07 03:53 PM |
#150 |
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Well woudn't that be a good thing... |
girl gone mad |
Jul-21-07 03:50 PM |
#148 |
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LOL. What crap. How about the argument that |
Midlodemocrat |
Jul-21-07 12:34 PM |
#94 |
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Wouldn't suicide be the best thing a person can do for the environment? |
Der Blaue Engel |
Jul-21-07 02:17 AM |
#21 |
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sorry, i didn't |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-21-07 09:36 AM |
#43 |
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That was dumb |
TheBorealAvenger |
Jul-21-07 11:47 AM |
#76 |
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If you're dumb and you know it, clap your hands |
Der Blaue Engel |
Jul-21-07 03:06 PM |
#139 |
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They are not mutually exclusive |
wuushew |
Jul-21-07 12:51 PM |
#99 |
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well, this takes it even |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-21-07 01:06 PM |
#102 |
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what don't you understand about suicide? |
wuushew |
Jul-21-07 01:27 PM |
#103 |
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- sorry- |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-21-07 01:41 PM |
#111 |
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Not only that, but Bush is the numero uno environmentalist |
spoony |
Jul-21-07 04:29 PM |
#161 |
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It would be better for planet earth if there were no humans here at all. |
cassiepriam |
Jul-21-07 05:19 AM |
#25 |
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To borrow the vegan argument... |
cobalt1999 |
Jul-21-07 08:27 AM |
#29 |
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Yes, the world would be better off if there weren't any people |
gollygee |
Jul-21-07 08:30 AM |
#30 |
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No. |
LWolf |
Jul-21-07 08:31 AM |
#31 |
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To quote Jerry Seinfeld; |
zanne |
Jul-21-07 08:58 AM |
#33 |
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Are you thinking your parents made a mistake when they had you? |
Telly Savalas |
Jul-21-07 08:58 AM |
#34 |
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The theory (and what Catholic clergymen say on TV) is, we need our next generation of scientists... |
HypnoToad |
Jul-21-07 09:00 AM |
#35 |
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Yeah, I think I know why Catholic clergymen want us all to have kids. |
Lex |
Jul-21-07 09:08 AM |
#37 |
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I was referring to a guy on the Catholic channel - I e-mailed him on his broadcast... |
HypnoToad |
Jul-21-07 09:13 AM |
#39 |
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By the same logic, death would be the best. |
rucky |
Jul-21-07 09:14 AM |
#40 |
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No that would be completely different logic |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 12:04 PM |
#79 |
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The same fallacy of the OP's premise. |
rucky |
Jul-21-07 01:50 PM |
#113 |
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That's a BIT rhetorical, RGB! |
baby_mouse |
Jul-21-07 09:25 AM |
#41 |
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why don't we promote suicide as being good for the environment? |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-21-07 09:34 AM |
#42 |
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It's the consumptive habits of the child and family |
ikojo |
Jul-21-07 09:49 AM |
#44 |
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Thank you. |
MrsMatt |
Jul-21-07 10:48 AM |
#57 |
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true, but unless we effect radical change in our way of life... |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 12:11 PM |
#82 |
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An this is an interesting problem |
Yupster |
Jul-21-07 04:17 PM |
#158 |
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I gotta read that book |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 01:01 AM |
#190 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-21-07 09:55 AM |
#45 |
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Only if you consider a depopulated world a proper environment. |
rug |
Jul-21-07 10:03 AM |
#46 |
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I Support Reproductive Freedom |
javadu |
Jul-21-07 10:26 AM |
#49 |
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I do too, I was just asking how high it ranks on the list |
RGBolen |
Jul-21-07 10:35 AM |
#51 |
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Actually, having 3,4,5,6, or more children would be even worse for the environment |
kenny blankenship |
Jul-21-07 10:35 AM |
#52 |
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Can we just agree that mothers should cooperate with flight attendants and not knock all children? |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jul-21-07 10:38 AM |
#53 |
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it is what the environment will do the child . |
donsu |
Jul-21-07 11:08 AM |
#62 |
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The worst thing? |
lwfern |
Jul-21-07 11:30 AM |
#67 |
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People with children should be ashamed of themselves... |
SayWhatYo |
Jul-21-07 11:33 AM |
#68 |
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lol |
Rhoads |
Jul-21-07 11:35 AM |
#70 |
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I have 3 children. I am sorry. |
Rhoads |
Jul-21-07 11:33 AM |
#69 |
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That's ok -- I drive two hummers at once and eat roast dolphin for breakfast |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 11:35 AM |
#71 |
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actually, |
Rhoads |
Jul-21-07 11:38 AM |
#72 |
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I eat Hummers for breakfast and ride two dolphins at once. |
Vektor |
Jul-21-07 12:09 PM |
#81 |
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Just as long as you don't tell me how to live my life!! |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 12:13 PM |
#83 |
| -
Mine runs on bat guano. |
Vektor |
Jul-21-07 12:20 PM |
#85 |
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I call bullshit on that one |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 12:28 PM |
#89 |
| -
Ok, call all you want. |
Vektor |
Jul-21-07 12:35 PM |
#96 |
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depends what that child does |
ryanus |
Jul-21-07 12:22 PM |
#86 |
| -
What if Gandhi's mother had said that? |
proud2Blib |
Jul-21-07 12:34 PM |
#93 |
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As long as Barbara Bush said it too |
jgraz |
Jul-21-07 12:54 PM |
#100 |
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IMO - yes - tis why I never had any - one reason anyway (n/t) |
Triana |
Jul-21-07 12:38 PM |
#97 |
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Starting a war is pretty bad. |
Bosso 63 |
Jul-21-07 12:40 PM |
#98 |
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Not if that child will grow up to invent a solution to it. - n/t |
porphyrian |
Jul-21-07 01:30 PM |
#104 |
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If I were still young enough I would not bring a child into this world |
blues90 |
Jul-21-07 01:37 PM |
#107 |
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Chalk This Up As One Of The Most Idiotic Flame Baiting Premises I've Ever Seen Here. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jul-21-07 01:39 PM |
#109 |
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Oh Come On. |
Megahurtz |
Jul-21-07 01:54 PM |
#114 |
| -
No, I Posted My Real Thoughts. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jul-21-07 02:01 PM |
#117 |
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Never stopped him before. |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-21-07 02:02 PM |
#118 |
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Oh Grow Up With Your Empty Personal Moronic Attacks Already. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jul-21-07 02:36 PM |
#128 |
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If they did that, they'd have to stop posting. |
spoony |
Jul-21-07 04:32 PM |
#163 |
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Oh No, I've Brought The Wrath And Pity Of The Omnipotent OCM Down On My Poor Self |
greyhound1966 |
Jul-21-07 10:19 PM |
#184 |
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If there were no more children |
Madspirit |
Jul-21-07 02:12 PM |
#120 |
| -
We could always transfer our minds to android bodies |
wuushew |
Jul-21-07 02:23 PM |
#125 |
| -
I like that idea!...n/t |
Madspirit |
Jul-21-07 03:53 PM |
#151 |
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I think it's true that people in general are harmful to the Earth. |
Lex |
Jul-21-07 02:15 PM |
#122 |
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Probably starting a war - ordering DU to be strewn around |
salin |
Jul-21-07 02:16 PM |
#123 |
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I don't know, but Alice the Cook says, |
sl8 |
Jul-21-07 02:37 PM |
#129 |
| -
You're right...nobody should have kids...nt |
SidDithers |
Jul-21-07 02:39 PM |
#130 |
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It would be nice if on this topic, as on many, we could have a discussion of a third way |
nam78_two |
Jul-21-07 02:48 PM |
#135 |
| -
If... |
Kazak |
Jul-21-07 03:11 PM |
#143 |
| -
Yes |
Yupster |
Jul-21-07 04:23 PM |
#159 |
| -
As is ours. |
Kazak |
Jul-21-07 05:04 PM |
#170 |
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Easy one. No. |
gulliver |
Jul-21-07 03:41 PM |
#145 |
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Not as long as he is a sterile vegan who cleans up after himself. |
undeterred |
Jul-21-07 03:46 PM |
#146 |
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I don't drink with you. |
theNotoriousP.I.G. |
Jul-21-07 04:36 PM |
#166 |
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Apparently not--I alerted on this mess early this morning! nt |
blondeatlast |
Jul-21-07 10:13 PM |
#181 |
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And by extension, suicide is the best thing to do. |
SmokingJacket |
Jul-21-07 04:40 PM |
#168 |
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Depends on which child it is |
treestar |
Jul-21-07 05:05 PM |
#171 |
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Perhaps we should reconsider the desire to end the war in Iraq? |
JVS |
Jul-21-07 08:18 PM |
#175 |
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Yes, because deciding to not have children is exactly the same as killing someone |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 01:31 AM |
#194 |
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I knew that desire to not have any children was part of a killer instinct.......... |
nolabels |
Jul-22-07 01:18 PM |
#199 |
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Too bad ya can't go back in time and tell your parents before they screwed up the environment |
The Straight Story |
Jul-22-07 03:29 PM |
#202 |
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Dude, if I could go back in time, I'd be paying a visit to Kennebunkport |
jgraz |
Jul-22-07 04:08 PM |
#206 |
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