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61. I feel sorry for both parties in the transaction; it's sad mutual exploitation
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  -Do you find anything wrong with using escorts and prostitutes? Herman Munster  Jul-14-07 06:44 AM   #0 
  - Agreed wholeheartedly  Frank Cannon   Jul-14-07 06:50 AM   #1 
  - The woman who provided Vitter the diaper service is looking at serving hard time  NNN0LHI   Jul-14-07 06:51 AM   #2 
  - Well she didn't get "hard" time with Vitter  Horse with no Name   Jul-14-07 06:54 AM   #3 
  - It needs to be regulated and taxed like other companies  rodeodance   Jul-14-07 08:47 AM   #39 
  - Personally? Yes. The sex industry as a whole is detrimental  Katherine Brengle   Jul-14-07 06:55 AM   #4 
  - Detrimental how precisely?  cyborg_jim   Jul-14-07 07:53 AM   #20 
  - It's impersonal and dehumanizing. Other than that, it's great. nt  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 07:56 AM   #22 
     - To whom? You?  cyborg_jim   Jul-14-07 08:01 AM   #24 
     - Many 'women' 'employed' in prostitution don't want to be there.  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 08:28 AM   #28 
     - I doubt many people employed at Burger King want to be there either  cyborg_jim   Jul-14-07 08:39 AM   #33 
     - You're totally clueless if you can equate working at Burger King with being a prostitute.  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 08:43 AM   #37 
        - So no counter-argument then?  cyborg_jim   Jul-14-07 08:53 AM   #42 
        - I think I'd rather be a hooker than work at Burger King  HeeBGBz   Jul-14-07 03:02 PM   # 
           - but would you still wear the paper hat?  JVS   Jul-14-07 03:19 PM   #101 
              - Want a little shake with that?  HeeBGBz   Jul-14-07 07:30 PM   #144 
     - Whoa!  Jed Dilligan   Jul-14-07 01:49 PM   #78 
        - Sure. But don't equate it with potentially ruining your life/health in prostitution.  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 03:29 PM   #104 
           - Why? Because it only affects factory and agricultural workers  Jed Dilligan   Jul-14-07 06:34 PM   #137 
     - As my former prostitute friends have told me......  Jade Fox   Jul-14-07 10:13 AM   #52 
     - So are most other service industry jobs  havocmom   Jul-14-07 01:52 PM   #81 
  - Objectification and commoditization of human beings have a common moral failing.  TahitiNut   Jul-14-07 02:00 PM   #86 
  - The draft objectifies men in a similar way, BUT...  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 03:31 PM   #105 
  - It's not the 'draft' that objectifies men ... it's the military. Any military.  TahitiNut   Jul-14-07 07:44 PM   #145 
  - That reminds me  Echos Myron   Jul-14-07 04:06 PM   #112 
     - Human "resources". Good point.  Veganistan   Jul-15-07 02:47 AM   #178 
  - Nothing exists in a vacuum, including the seemingly total inabilty of some to formulate cogent  impeachdubya   Jul-14-07 04:23 PM   #117 
  - Yeah -- they cost way too much!  Pigwidgeon   Jul-14-07 06:58 AM   #5 
  - I think a person's body is priceless, so you're lucky it's not several  Clark2008   Jul-14-07 07:49 AM   #17 
  - Let me just blush with shame ... not  Pigwidgeon   Jul-14-07 08:48 AM   #40 
     - I think I'm being compasionate, actually. nt  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 03:32 PM   #106 
  - Well - we all know WHAT repukes are, now we are only haggling over the PRICE...  TankLV   Jul-14-07 09:26 PM   #161 
  - this is the land of the free I'm told  madokie   Jul-14-07 06:59 AM   #6 
  - used to be, like 7 yrs ago. no longer.  antifaschits   Jul-14-07 07:34 AM   #12 
     - my bad I forget  madokie   Jul-14-07 08:32 AM   #29 
  - If the women who were providing the service weren't virtual slaves...  liberal N proud   Jul-14-07 07:06 AM   #7 
  - its mainly a service for men, who don't care if the majority of women doing the  fed-up   Jul-14-07 07:45 AM   #16 
  - Legalize. Get rid of the pimps.  TheFriendlyAnarchist   Jul-14-07 08:23 AM   #27 
     - Exactly. Regulate it, tax it, and get it off the streets.  Frank Cannon   Jul-14-07 09:41 AM   #49 
  - If it were legal the women would not need a pimp for protection and bail.  MiltonF   Jul-14-07 09:52 PM   #170 
  - not at all -- it can be a perfectly good way  xchrom   Jul-14-07 07:16 AM   #8 
  - i agree it should be legalized but while its a crime, for any government officer,  bullimiami   Jul-14-07 07:21 AM   #9 
  - I dont see any difference between prostituting ones body and ones character, e.g. politicians. nt  jody   Jul-14-07 07:23 AM   #10 
  - Bingo!  Demeter   Jul-14-07 07:33 AM   #11 
  - are you kidding?  antifaschits   Jul-14-07 07:36 AM   #13 
  - ...  Fox Mulder   Jul-14-07 07:39 AM   #14 
  - ROFLMAO  jody   Jul-14-07 07:41 AM   #15 
  - ............  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-14-07 10:16 AM   #54 
  - rofl  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 01:35 PM   #71 
  - Damn, I wish we could recomend individual posts.  otherlander   Jul-14-07 01:39 PM   #74 
  - Now that you mention it, we don't call politicians and RW media shills  Raksha   Jul-14-07 08:39 PM   #152 
  - At some point I'd admit that both prostitution and political hypocrisy  Old Crusoe   Jul-14-07 07:50 AM   #18 
  - Agreed. What happens between two constenting adults  OnionPatch   Jul-14-07 07:51 AM   #19 
  - So many of the young women are there under duress. nt  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 07:55 AM   #21 
  - which is why it should be legal.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-14-07 08:35 AM   #31 
     - There will always be pressures to lower wages through a greater supply of women.  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 08:41 AM   #35 
        - A regulated sex industry would allow resources to be concentraited on the more unpleasant aspects  cyborg_jim   Jul-14-07 09:08 AM   #44 
        - What?  Warren Stupidity   Jul-14-07 09:24 AM   #47 
           - No, I don't "make this shit up," I live in Hampton Roads, VA. nt  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 11:37 AM   #60 
  - So do we let the crack H0s and the Viagra crazed repugs run  Hubert Flottz   Jul-14-07 07:59 AM   #23 
  - Most women sell their bodies because they have no other options.  PBass   Jul-14-07 08:01 AM   #25 
  - Lots of people work lots of shitty jobs because they have no other options.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-14-07 08:38 AM   #32 
  - I'm for legal drugs  Retired AF Dem   Jul-14-07 09:24 AM   #46 
     - Drug addicts are highly productive people.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-14-07 09:31 AM   #48 
  - This is not true  zalinda   Jul-14-07 10:14 AM   #53 
  - that's not saying a whole lot  marions ghost   Jul-14-07 10:52 AM   #58 
     - A lot of the workers use the sex industry  zalinda   Jul-14-07 01:30 PM   #69 
        - I don't doubt what you say  marions ghost   Jul-14-07 01:56 PM   #83 
           - A growing industry? How about the oldest industry?  XOKCowboy   Jul-14-07 04:41 PM   #124 
              - I guess i mean the 'less sleezy' prostitution industry...  marions ghost   Jul-14-07 08:34 PM   #151 
  - Not My Friends  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 01:59 PM   #84 
  - I'm sorry but Bullcrap.  Rosemary2205   Jul-14-07 02:26 PM   #94 
     - Oh, all those women from Russia, Ukraine, El Salvador that are promised jobs know ...  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 07:00 PM   #140 
        - You obviously did not read my post.  Rosemary2205   Jul-14-07 07:50 PM   #146 
  - The problem here is hypocrasy. Making a big deal about the Clenis,  MiniMe   Jul-14-07 08:16 AM   #26 
  - not really. It is a service industry and has been around for a long time.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-14-07 08:34 AM   #30 
  - It should be legalized but don't expect for either major party to call for that  book_worm   Jul-14-07 08:39 AM   #34 
  - Only as long as they are approved by the FDA and are against abortions.  0007   Jul-14-07 08:42 AM   #36 
  - As long as they don't have any diseases  Bitwit1234   Jul-14-07 08:45 AM   #38 
  - not at all.. its basically the national past time in brazil  markk   Jul-14-07 08:48 AM   #41 
  - There are a lot of things going on in Brazil that I'd rather not have here....  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 01:26 PM   #66 
  - Legalize it and get them a union.  flvegan   Jul-14-07 09:02 AM   #43 
  - That's a good answer  terrya   Jul-15-07 08:54 AM   #188 
  - I support prostitutes and loathe "Johns"  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jul-14-07 09:14 AM   #45 
  - Why the hate for "Johns"?  Frank Cannon   Jul-14-07 10:07 AM   #51 
     - LOL.. thanks for the perspective  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jul-14-07 12:01 PM   #64 
     - so you totally missed the part where senator vitter has a wife and 4 children?  pitohui   Jul-14-07 08:07 PM   #149 
        - Identifying a married john doesn't mean all, or even most, are married.  mondo joe   Jul-14-07 09:02 PM   #155 
           - Indeed.  cyborg_jim   Jul-15-07 02:23 AM   #177 
  - No, I don't, provided everyone is a consenting adult. NT  mondo joe   Jul-14-07 09:57 AM   #50 
  - No, but I have a huge problem with pimping.  LoZoccolo   Jul-14-07 10:19 AM   #55 
  - well....re: the consenting adults....the person's sig. other would have to consent too.  ourbluenation   Jul-14-07 10:20 AM   #56 
  - A Person Should Absolutely Have the Right to Do Whatever They Want With Their Own Body  Toasterlad   Jul-14-07 10:41 AM   #57 
  - It's "unsavory" for other reasons too....  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 01:14 PM   #65 
     - Legalizing it  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 01:34 PM   #70 
     - I've actually not said I'm against legalizing it. I'm not. I'm for it.  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 03:28 PM   #102 
        - But....  Toasterlad   Jul-14-07 03:46 PM   #109 
           - Yes, I do.  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 04:03 PM   #110 
              - Excellent. That's All I'm Saying.  Toasterlad   Jul-14-07 04:17 PM   #113 
     - The only legal model we have is Nevada  XOKCowboy   Jul-14-07 04:29 PM   #122 
     - There's nothing in your list that is exclusive to sex-for-pay that couldn't be part of a free-sex  mondo joe   Jul-14-07 09:04 PM   #156 
  - Nothing at all... nt  ElboRuum   Jul-14-07 11:02 AM   #59 
  - I feel sorry for both parties in the transaction; it's sad mutual exploitation  mitchum   Jul-14-07 11:48 AM   #61 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-14-07 02:00 PM   #85 
  - Please acknowledge that that is NOT the case for a lot of women. nt  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 04:05 PM   #111 
  - No, but your assessment of my opinion IS condescending...  mitchum   Jul-14-07 06:00 PM   #133 
  - If it's mutual consensual exploitation why is it so sad?  mondo joe   Jul-14-07 03:02 PM   #98 
  - Because people are people and often find themselves doing such things out of need...  mitchum   Jul-14-07 06:04 PM   #134 
  - I guess I don't see what's so sad about a mutually agreed upon exchange between  mondo joe   Jul-14-07 08:56 PM   #153 
     - But will the baker suck your cock if the price is right?  mitchum   Jul-14-07 09:34 PM   #162 
     - If the price is right, I'd guess so. It's still mutual exploitation.  mondo joe   Jul-14-07 09:37 PM   #163 
        - I am not deciding for them and never stated that I was doing so...  mitchum   Jul-14-07 09:46 PM   #165 
     - I dont know...if either of my two kids became a prostitute, I'd be sad. n/t  ourbluenation   Jul-15-07 10:05 AM   #194 
  - Like the army, prostitution is 'manned' by an economic draft. Or by force.  MookieWilson   Jul-14-07 07:02 PM   #141 
     - I'd like some data to back up the claim that it is "often under the greatest economic  mondo joe   Jul-14-07 08:58 PM   #154 
  - Oh bull-shit it is not:  Hawaii Hiker   Jul-14-07 06:29 PM   #135 
  - I have known a wide variety of whores (and no, not on a professional basis)...  mitchum   Jul-14-07 06:41 PM   #139 
  - most women aren't model pretty and those who are must be brain damaged to be whores  pitohui   Jul-14-07 08:18 PM   #150 
     - To pitohui:  Hawaii Hiker   Jul-14-07 11:18 PM   #176 
  - I'm sure a high priced porn star escort like Nina Hartley would disagree  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Jul-14-07 09:49 PM   #168 
     - I've met Nina Hartley and she is far more the exception than the rule  mitchum   Jul-14-07 10:12 PM   #171 
  - yes--no union and it operates in secrecy  librechik   Jul-14-07 11:50 AM   #62 
  - If prostitution were legal, the status of women  roody   Jul-14-07 11:55 AM   #63 
  - No, but I can't afford it...  JacquesMolay   Jul-14-07 01:28 PM   #67 
  - As a Feminist I Believe Prostitution should be legal  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 01:30 PM   #68 
  - I agree.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-14-07 01:45 PM   #77 
  - They're either fascists or naive fools  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 01:55 PM   #82 
     - I agree, again.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-14-07 02:10 PM   #89 
  - I agree.I worked as a dominatrix in college  w8liftinglady   Jul-14-07 06:33 PM   #136 
  - This feminist agrees  Chovexani   Jul-14-07 07:16 PM   #143 
     - "Prohibition does far worse damage than legalization ever would."  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 10:30 PM   #172 
  - I Did A Poll Here Once  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 01:36 PM   #72 
  - Nope.. I do object to people shooting their mouths off and creating laws that make it illegal  SoCalDem   Jul-14-07 01:37 PM   #73 
  - My thoughts exactly.  Neshanic   Jul-14-07 01:41 PM   #76 
  - Only if they spew RW "Family Values" BS about  NC_Nurse   Jul-14-07 01:41 PM   #75 
  - My answer is this  blues90   Jul-14-07 01:50 PM   #79 
  - That's Nice  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 02:05 PM   #87 
     - Not only the ones outside Vegas  XOKCowboy   Jul-14-07 02:48 PM   #95 
     - Thank-you!  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 03:05 PM   #99 
        - That's funny...  XOKCowboy   Jul-14-07 04:19 PM   #114 
        - I support legalization  entanglement   Jul-14-07 05:52 PM   #132 
     - Over sight ?  blues90   Jul-14-07 04:51 PM   #126 
  - Whenever I'm solicited by prostitutes,  Jed Dilligan   Jul-14-07 01:52 PM   #80 
  - no n/t  enigmatic   Jul-14-07 02:08 PM   #88 
  - "Using" is the operant term here.  PassingFair   Jul-14-07 02:16 PM   #90 
  - No. Live and let live.  NaturalHigh   Jul-14-07 02:18 PM   #91 
  - Nothing wrong whatsoever  mitchtv   Jul-14-07 02:22 PM   #92 
  - Just another example of a "consensual crime"  Mythsaje   Jul-14-07 02:23 PM   #93 
  - there was a fascinating case in Illinois  antifaschits   Jul-14-07 03:00 PM   #96 
     - I've heard of this...  Mythsaje   Jul-14-07 03:02 PM   #97 
        - Alienation of affection is no longer recognized as a cause of action in a lawsuit.  Perragrande   Jul-14-07 09:16 PM   #159 
           - not true in all states  fishwax   Jul-14-07 09:46 PM   #166 
  - consenting adults behind closed doors = nobody's business  JVS   Jul-14-07 03:18 PM   #100 
  - In essence, I would say 'no', BUT...  DutchLiberal   Jul-14-07 03:28 PM   #103 
  - I Don't Think It's A Social Good Nor Do I Think It Should Be Illegal  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-14-07 03:38 PM   #107 
  - What Should Be Discouraged?  Madspirit   Jul-14-07 04:21 PM   #115 
     - There Are All Kinds Of Sex Workers From Streetwalkers To Highly Paid Escorts  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-14-07 04:53 PM   #127 
     - If A Young Woman Or A Young Man Asked My Opinion About Becoming A Prostitute Or Escort Or  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-15-07 07:20 AM   #182 
  - Nope. I have a problem with hypocrites who claim to be religious, moral and have better better  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-14-07 03:41 PM   #108 
  - What about women and men who marry for money?  camero   Jul-14-07 04:21 PM   #116 
  - WATCH OUT THERE! Now you're getting personal...  XOKCowboy   Jul-14-07 09:51 PM   #169 
  - Personally, I think it's a little sad. But Consenting adults should have the right to make their own  impeachdubya   Jul-14-07 04:25 PM   #118 
  - As long as the prostitutes are not under some form of coersion.  Vidar   Jul-14-07 04:26 PM   #119 
  - I hope to gods the stinking hypocrisy of it all brings the Publicans & Sinners Party down  Hekate   Jul-14-07 04:26 PM   #120 
  - I agree. The government has no place penalizing adults for consensual sex.  Pushed To The Left   Jul-14-07 04:27 PM   #121 
  - If you're married and have kids? HELL YES!  Alexander   Jul-14-07 04:30 PM   #123 
  - Thank you N/t  Perky   Jul-14-07 09:06 PM   #157 
  - never understood why it was illegal.  KG   Jul-14-07 04:49 PM   #125 
  - As long as it is between consenting adults then it is none of our business.  LostInAnomie   Jul-14-07 05:01 PM   #128 
  - Prostitution should be completely outsourced.  dave29   Jul-14-07 05:03 PM   #129 
  - No but RW nutjobs condemn everyone else for being involved  treestar   Jul-14-07 05:04 PM   #130 
  - Good idea to legalize - Also wish international trafficking of women is tackled seriously  entanglement   Jul-14-07 05:41 PM   #131 
  - Escorts are kind of  Bluerthanblue   Jul-14-07 06:39 PM   #138 
  - Believe it or not, there actually is a Japanese car called "LaPuta"  Art_from_Ark   Jul-15-07 07:26 AM   #183 
  - Are we supposed to speak from personal experience?  Ezlivin   Jul-14-07 07:10 PM   #142 
  - the wife didn't consent to it  pitohui   Jul-14-07 07:56 PM   #147 
  - Where did he mention a wife?  MiltonF   Jul-14-07 09:47 PM   #167 
  - Not at all.  LWolf   Jul-14-07 08:06 PM   #148 
  - "I don't approve of cheating"  Madspirit   Jul-15-07 02:55 AM   #179 
     - I don't think you read my post very carefully before replying.  LWolf   Jul-15-07 09:58 AM   #193 
  - No. This is one are where the "it's a woman's body..." argument  hiaasenrocks   Jul-14-07 09:07 PM   #158 
  - I don't go around staking my whole existence on condemning others' sexual escapades.  TankLV   Jul-14-07 09:23 PM   #160 
  - I see nothing wrong with prostitution as long as both adults are consenting.  MiltonF   Jul-14-07 09:42 PM   #164 
  - I have a huge issue with the fact that it's one of the few places a woman can earn good money.  AZBlue   Jul-14-07 10:38 PM   #173 
  - You make a very valid point  XOKCowboy   Jul-14-07 11:04 PM   #175 
  - I have a friend who's a CPA.  AZBlue   Jul-15-07 03:41 PM   #196 
  - I don't know which options young men would have that young women wouldn't.  mondo joe   Jul-15-07 08:46 AM   #185 
  - certainly it should be legal  Skittles   Jul-14-07 10:48 PM   #174 
  - Legalize, Regulate...Make It Safe  Madspirit   Jul-15-07 03:17 AM   #180 
  - Prostitution should be legalized and regulated  bluestateguy   Jul-15-07 03:22 AM   #181 
  - choosing for others is kewl  Mushroom   Jul-15-07 08:37 AM   #184 
  - Nah, nothing wrong with it.  JNelson6563   Jul-15-07 08:50 AM   #186 
  - I don't see anything wrong with it at all.  terrya   Jul-15-07 08:53 AM   #187 
  - As long as the prostitutes are doing so of their own free will.  porphyrian   Jul-15-07 09:00 AM   #189 
  - i do when men keep prostitution illegal and make women vulnerable to cops/johns/ law  lionesspriyanka   Jul-15-07 09:01 AM   #190 
  - shoot no I don't  madokie   Jul-15-07 09:05 AM   #191 
  - Only when they don't disclose their dude-ness.  burythehatchet   Jul-15-07 09:42 AM   #192 
  - Yes for many of the reasons stated especially if the john is married  Nikia   Jul-15-07 10:29 AM   #195 
 

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