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Response to Reply #135
147. Is THAT the only reason to not cut troops/etc? Unemployment?
You are reaching there. How about using some of the money for job retraining for some other "serve their beloved country" sort of job? Don't un-employ people. hahahahaha
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  -I have never supported the troops txprog  Jul-13-07 10:41 AM   #0 
  - the best way to support the troops  sniffa   Jul-13-07 10:44 AM   #1 
  - like this?  orleans   Jul-13-07 10:52 AM   #4 
     - World-wide the image of America's military  irislake   Jul-13-07 11:31 AM   #30 
        - Fortunately I as an American soldier  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:08 PM   #133 
           - Unfortunately, it is exactly that attitude that has made so many  Spazito   Jul-13-07 10:18 PM   #152 
           - Oh I'm sorry  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:29 PM   #166 
              - You missed my point but I am not surprised.....  Spazito   Jul-13-07 10:30 PM   #169 
                 - Neither am I by your hostility  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:31 PM   #170 
                    - LOL, I suggest you read your own posts if you want to recognize  Spazito   Jul-13-07 10:37 PM   #179 
           - That's because it's an iron rice bowl for a large percentage of the country  eridani   Jul-13-07 10:27 PM   #162 
  - I agree completely. But be careful.  rhiannon55   Jul-13-07 10:51 AM   #2 
  - In a time of universal deceit, to speak the truth is a revolutionary act.  The Stranger   Jul-13-07 11:15 AM   #16 
  - The World's Only Superpower  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 10:52 AM   #3 
  - Do you believe the U.S. should abolish our Department of Defense? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 10:53 AM   #5 
  - When was the last time the US military was actually used in defense of the country?  sinkingfeeling   Jul-13-07 11:00 AM   #9 
  - Does your reply mean YES to abolish DOD? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 11:07 AM   #12 
  - If 9/11 was an example of the kind of "defense" we're paying over  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 11:03 AM   #10 
  - Does your reply mean YES to abolish DOD? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 11:07 AM   #13 
     - The old, correctly named, Department of War was replaced by the  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 11:29 AM   #29 
        - DOD or DOW, do you want to abolish it? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 01:21 PM   #59 
           - OK  SoonerPride   Jul-13-07 02:02 PM   #73 
           - You don't abolish DOD by outsourcing its mission. n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 02:09 PM   #81 
              - Keep the DOD, fine, but fund it sanely. Like about 90% of what it gets now.  SoonerPride   Jul-13-07 02:14 PM   #82 
                 - What DOD units would you cut? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 02:21 PM   #83 
                    - Every single one except  conscious evolution   Jul-13-07 02:59 PM   #89 
           - Yes!  Milo_Bloom   Jul-13-07 05:46 PM   #102 
           - I do.  TheFriendlyAnarchist   Jul-13-07 10:06 PM   #129 
  - I believe we should abolish the department of war  Warren Stupidity   Jul-13-07 11:10 AM   #14 
  - Then we should also abolish all departments that protect us since none is 100% successful. n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 11:17 AM   #19 
  - Gee no that isn't quite what I was saying.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-13-07 11:21 AM   #22 
  - IMO the OP was arguing for elimination of DOD. n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 01:20 PM   #58 
     - You invented that argument for the OP.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-13-07 01:25 PM   #61 
        - NO, the OP said "Sure, we need a lean and mean force to DEFEND our country. But this military  jody   Jul-13-07 01:50 PM   #69 
           - Man you twist statements pretty good there.  go west young man   Jul-13-07 02:54 PM   #88 
  - One would be hard pressed to say the military was anything but an  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 11:34 AM   #33 
     - Are you saying DOD should be eliminated because of 9/11? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 01:22 PM   #60 
        - I'm suggesting they go back to being called the Department of War,  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 01:44 PM   #65 
           - Changing the name from DOD to DOW accomplishes what? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 01:51 PM   #70 
              - It cuts through the Orwellian bullshit which obfuscates our often agressive,  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 02:49 PM   #86 
  - We should go back to calling it the Dept. of War  treestar   Jul-13-07 09:42 PM   #116 
  - I don't... but I think it should be cut back.  SayWhatYo   Jul-13-07 11:22 AM   #23 
  - What units should be cut back? I assume you know it takes 15 or more years to develop a new weapon  jody   Jul-13-07 01:26 PM   #62 
  - We spend what the next 10 countries spend COMBINED  SoonerPride   Jul-13-07 02:03 PM   #75 
  - What units would you cut? n/y  jody   Jul-13-07 02:07 PM   #78 
  - It probably does take the U.S. 15 years to develop new weapons systems.  go west young man   Jul-13-07 03:01 PM   #91 
  - Compare the P-51 with the F-22 and you'll see why the lead time has changed. n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 03:30 PM   #92 
     - I'm sure an F-22 is complex but the Manhattan Project which I'm  go west young man   Jul-13-07 08:52 PM   #112 
  - How about cutting out nuclear submarines? They seem a bit  coalition_unwilling   Jul-13-07 03:37 PM   #93 
  - Cut spending and pay for college and health care....and not raise taxes one cent.  SoonerPride   Jul-13-07 02:07 PM   #77 
     - What DOD units would you cut? n/t  jody   Jul-13-07 02:08 PM   #79 
        - No coast guard. No reserve. No new weapons procurement.  SoonerPride   Jul-13-07 02:24 PM   #84 
           - Yes let's unemploy 1.5 million people that love their country.......  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:10 PM   #135 
              - Is THAT the only reason to not cut troops/etc? Unemployment?  uppityperson   Jul-13-07 10:16 PM   #147 
                 - Yes, in reality that is the main reason we don't cut the military  eridani   Jul-13-07 10:32 PM   #172 
  - No, just cut it down to a size that's actually functional for defense  eridani   Jul-13-07 10:28 PM   #165 
  - I believe the US should abolish the Department of Military Industrial Complex...  mitchum   Jul-13-07 10:44 PM   #184 
  - Recommended! Thank you. eom  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-13-07 10:55 AM   #6 
  - military industrial complex  Johonny   Jul-13-07 10:58 AM   #7 
  - wrong  Terran   Jul-13-07 01:13 PM   #55 
     - And Eisenhower was right. A bloated military/industrial complex  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 01:47 PM   #67 
  - I was thinking about something similar this very morning. I wondered why no one  sinkingfeeling   Jul-13-07 10:58 AM   #8 
  - hero worship- an evolutionary holdover  mopinko   Jul-13-07 11:05 AM   #11 
  - Right Said...  MrPrax   Jul-13-07 11:14 AM   #15 
  - I agree with much of what you said, but I still support the troops.  SayWhatYo   Jul-13-07 11:16 AM   #17 
  - I don't think saying you don't support the troops upsets people  Marrah_G   Jul-13-07 11:17 AM   #18 
  - with a qualification  rudeboy666   Jul-13-07 11:20 AM   #20 
  - Well Most Of Us Do, Thankfully. God Bless Them And May God Be With Them. n/t  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-13-07 11:21 AM   #21 
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  - But it is also true.  The Stranger   Jul-13-07 04:14 PM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-13-07 01:14 PM   #56 
  - What does "Support the Troops" mean? Platitdunal Pablum!  Bonobo   Jul-13-07 04:04 PM   #97 
  - "Support the troops" falls in the same catagory as the little flag lapel pins.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-13-07 11:23 AM   #24 
  - I agree to some extent.  Raskolnik   Jul-13-07 12:11 PM   #44 
     - I didn't see that in the OP.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-13-07 12:21 PM   #47 
        - I believe the OP lays several political failings at the feet of the military  Raskolnik   Jul-13-07 12:26 PM   #48 
           - What in the hell is "support"?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-13-07 12:36 PM   #49 
              - That's why I put it in quotes.  Raskolnik   Jul-13-07 12:48 PM   #51 
  - I have because our family has someone over there  mmonk   Jul-13-07 11:24 AM   #26 
  - Don't let the RW frame the term "support"  spoony   Jul-13-07 11:26 AM   #27 
  - Word!  BrotherBuzz   Jul-13-07 11:33 AM   #32 
  - exactly  nini   Jul-13-07 12:14 PM   #45 
  - Exactly, thank you. eom  uppityperson   Jul-13-07 01:58 PM   #72 
  - Why are you holding members of the military responsible for political policy?  Raskolnik   Jul-13-07 11:26 AM   #28 
  - I agree with you wholeheartedly. I do not  LibDemAlways   Jul-13-07 11:32 AM   #31 
  - Too often "Support the Troops" is equated with...  SledDriver   Jul-13-07 11:44 AM   #36 
  - I saw a bumper sticker about two years ago  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Jul-13-07 07:31 PM   #111 
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  - I see two types of "Support the Troops"  Uncle Joe   Jul-13-07 12:19 PM   #46 
  - And poor Lincoln had to struggle against powerful, corrupt  Benhurst   Jul-13-07 02:02 PM   #74 
  - Agreed  DutchLiberal   Jul-13-07 12:45 PM   #50 
  - k&r...n/t  Madspirit   Jul-13-07 01:02 PM   #52 
  - supporting the troops isn't a choice..  flaminbats   Jul-13-07 01:04 PM   #53 
  - NOTHING could make me kill an Innocent  Madspirit   Jul-13-07 01:13 PM   #54 
  - "NOTHING could make me kill an Innocent"  Raskolnik   Jul-13-07 01:29 PM   #64 
  - Well yeah, I can say that  Madspirit   Jul-13-07 01:49 PM   #68 
     - Keyboard commandos exist in both sides I see  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-13-07 06:24 PM   #108 
  - Backfood drafts and econimic drafts  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-13-07 06:22 PM   #107 
  - 'The universal soldier'  DutchLiberal   Jul-13-07 07:26 PM   #110 
  - "Support the Troops" has gotta be one of the most successful memes in the history of propaganda  jgraz   Jul-13-07 01:15 PM   #57 
  - Great looking parrot, man. nt  0007   Jul-13-07 02:08 PM   #80 
     - He's a rescue from the SF wild flock  jgraz   Jul-13-07 02:50 PM   #87 
        - I have a three year old DYH Amazon -  0007   Jul-13-07 05:35 PM   #101 
           - Yeah, I know it's tough. We're all scraping out our piggy banks right now  jgraz   Jul-13-07 06:05 PM   #103 
              - I will when I get a little time. I've just returned to this site after fighting  0007   Jul-13-07 09:50 PM   #120 
                 - Wow -- good for you!!  jgraz   Jul-13-07 10:09 PM   #134 
  - I began my advocacy against the invasion of Iraq with the soldiers because  bigtree   Jul-13-07 01:27 PM   #63 
  - The 'troops' are victims too.  Swamp Rat   Jul-13-07 01:45 PM   #66 
  - The PNAC was an attempt to keep a Cold War Military Budget without a Cold War  Taverner   Jul-13-07 01:53 PM   #71 
  - If wars weren't being fought for profit  pink-o   Jul-13-07 02:05 PM   #76 
  - I totally agree with you and I'm former Marine.  go west young man   Jul-13-07 02:46 PM   #85 
  - Semper Fi  tjwash   Jul-13-07 04:40 PM   #100 
  - Thank-you! I wish I could recommend your post...n/t  Madspirit   Jul-13-07 06:17 PM   #104 
  - Support our Oops! -n/t  coalition_unwilling   Jul-13-07 03:00 PM   #90 
  - K&R.  Vidar   Jul-13-07 03:54 PM   #94 
  - Would it be more accurate to say you don't support the Military leadership?  AZBlue   Jul-13-07 04:00 PM   #95 
  - Let's change Father's Day to an anti--war day -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-13-07 04:03 PM   #96 
  - This has been the most vengeful military in the world.  Xenotime   Jul-13-07 04:15 PM   #99 
  - No it hasn't  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-13-07 06:20 PM   #105 
  - Universal and free higher education might support some troops BEFORE they sign up, IYKWIM.  WinkyDink   Jul-13-07 06:21 PM   #106 
  - Excellent point! (nt)  scarletwoman   Jul-13-07 07:10 PM   #109 
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  - They are not defending this country, whether they believe it or not  treestar   Jul-13-07 09:40 PM   #115 
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     - If they joined to go to Afganistan, they maybe were sold on "for this country" bullshit,  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 09:52 PM   #122 
     - My brother is an Army medic...  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 09:54 PM   #124 
        - Does your brother believe he's helping to defend America? nt  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:03 PM   #128 
        - Does it MATTER????  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:08 PM   #132 
        - Yes, it does matter. nt  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:15 PM   #144 
           - What a fucking bullshit response.  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:15 PM   #146 
              - If he went there thinking he's defending America he's mistaken  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:22 PM   #159 
                 - Do you have reading comprehension issues?  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:26 PM   #161 
                    - No graduated top 1% of my class. LOL  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:43 PM   #183 
                       - Top 1%?  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:46 PM   #187 
                          - That would be correcto missy.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:48 PM   #189 
                             - Hmmm... it obvious that you cannot READ  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:49 PM   #190 
                                - Is that all you've got Doll because this is getting pretty boring.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 11:01 PM   #197 
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                                      - Better watch yourself. You are accusing me of criminal behavior and you've it's in print.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 11:24 PM   #208 
        - I believe I am helping to defend America  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:15 PM   #143 
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           - Somedays  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:20 PM   #155 
              - God... I have no idea why I even came her tonight...  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:25 PM   #160 
           - No apology necessary  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:29 PM   #167 
           - End of the year I will be  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:33 PM   #173 
              - OH dear... ,I will be thinking of you...  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:34 PM   #176 
              - One question  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:35 PM   #177 
                 - Because it is my duty to go  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:42 PM   #182 
                    - Humor me  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:46 PM   #186 
                       - Yes it is too late to bring anyone back, but that doesn't excuse me  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:50 PM   #191 
                          - OK  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:53 PM   #192 
                             - Yes  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:56 PM   #194 
                                - Somehow I think there would be a line  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:59 PM   #196 
                                   - Good question  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 11:02 PM   #200 
                                      - Not asking about heat of the moment  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 11:06 PM   #201 
                                         - Why would I be asked to kill a civilian?  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 11:13 PM   #203 
                                         - At Haditha that is apparently just what happened  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 11:15 PM   #204 
                                         - He goes to jail  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 11:17 PM   #205 
                                         - A very simple one.  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 11:18 PM   #206 
                                         - I did answer it  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 11:28 PM   #209 
                                         - You would shoot a kneeling child in the head if ordered to?  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 11:33 PM   #210 
                                         - Did you read what I wrote?  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 11:42 PM   #211 
                                         - I want to see you type "yes" but I don't think you can  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 11:45 PM   #212 
                                         - WTF???  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 11:48 PM   #214 
                                         - Of course.  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 11:50 PM   #215 
                                         - I've answered it 3 times  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 11:52 PM   #217 
                                         - Maybe I'm not being clear  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 11:58 PM   #218 
                                         - NO  sanskritwarrior   Jul-14-07 12:06 AM   #219 
                                         - I think if you look back  wtmusic   Jul-14-07 12:08 AM   #220 
                                         - I've been reading this with interest. kick to mark for tomorrow to see if you get an answer  uppityperson   Jul-14-07 12:22 AM   #221 
           - What the US has done since WW II was over--  eridani   Jul-13-07 10:46 PM   #188 
        - So he enlisted to take care of wounded. That's ok, but we have wounded in America. He could have  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:06 PM   #130 
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        - IT is AMAZING ot me that this thread is allowed to stand..  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:14 PM   #142 
           - I'll alert and see what happens  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:15 PM   #145 
              - I already did... Plus I QUOTED  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:18 PM   #150 
                 - If the thread stays up a few hours  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:22 PM   #158 
                    - Yeah...sad isn't it?  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:28 PM   #164 
  - Show me where it says "to defend this county."  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 09:49 PM   #118 
     - What am I supposed to show you?  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 09:55 PM   #125 
        - You said  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:11 PM   #137 
           - Dude.. pay attention...  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:13 PM   #140 
              - Well then I guess I don't recall seeing the part about defending this country. I think it got there  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:17 PM   #149 
                 - So , are YOU Saying that the DU rules  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:19 PM   #154 
                    - I said someone made a mistake. Or didn't think that rule over very well.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:40 PM   #181 
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  - You are so right.  treestar   Jul-13-07 09:38 PM   #114 
  - "Reluctant to kill people"?  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:01 PM   #127 
  - Well I honor the fact that men and women are willing to die for their country...  Hippo_Tron   Jul-13-07 09:50 PM   #119 
  - prefuckingcisely!  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:12 PM   #139 
  - a most excellent post....  unkachuck   Jul-13-07 09:51 PM   #121 
  - The people who "luv da troops"  agincourt   Jul-13-07 09:52 PM   #123 
  - Biggest BROAD brush on this board  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 09:56 PM   #126 
     - Texas its not worth the arguement.  Marrah_G   Jul-13-07 10:37 PM   #178 
        - I know... Iam just angry  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:38 PM   #180 
  - Thanks for nothing  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:07 PM   #131 
  - THANK YOU!!!  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:11 PM   #138 
  - LOL  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:18 PM   #151 
  - Did you know that there are veterans posting to this thread?  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:19 PM   #153 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-13-07 10:20 PM   #156 
     - If a veteran is saying he never supported the troops  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:21 PM   #157 
        - Thank you.  Texasgal   Jul-13-07 10:27 PM   #163 
        - So.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:30 PM   #168 
        - Did you even read the OP?  wtmusic   Jul-13-07 10:34 PM   #175 
  - It is SO not even worth it San  Marrah_G   Jul-13-07 10:32 PM   #171 
     - Thanks marrah  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:34 PM   #174 
        - Hey  Marrah_G   Jul-13-07 10:55 PM   #193 
           - Congratulations for your bro........  sanskritwarrior   Jul-13-07 10:57 PM   #195 
  - I've seen this all day; I DO support the troops, and want them home. nt  babylonsister   Jul-13-07 11:01 PM   #198 
  - This seems to be an American thing; I've never really understood it  Canuckistanian   Jul-13-07 11:12 PM   #202 
  - proud to kick and recommend...  Bill McBlueState   Jul-13-07 11:19 PM   #207 
  - Bravo! Great post! Kick and recommed n/t  assclown_bush   Jul-13-07 11:45 PM   #213 
  - Bullshit, but I see where you are coming from  sampsonblk   Jul-13-07 11:51 PM   #216 
  - Locking.  Fenris   Jul-14-07 01:10 AM   #222 
 

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