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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:55 AM
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57. You don't think Hillary has ever changed a position?
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  -Kucinich Camp Overheard Clinton/Edwards Plan to Eliminate Candidates from Future Debates WilliamPitt  Jul-13-07 09:15 AM   #0 
  - Go Dennis!  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-13-07 09:16 AM   #1 
  - Go Dennis (#2). I am voting for this guy in the primaries, Hill and John. :)  Nikki Stone1   Jul-13-07 12:08 PM   #85 
  - Clinton...Edwards...wait, I'll put it a nice way...you will NEVER EVER get my vote. nt  NotGivingUp   Jul-13-07 09:19 AM   #2 
  - If this is true then Edwards just lost mine too  shadowknows69   Jul-13-07 09:40 AM   #17 
  - yes- We need to take back OUR power from the Corporate media  RFKJr4PRES   Jul-13-07 11:44 AM   #80 
  - Welcome to DU  shadowknows69   Jul-13-07 11:49 AM   #82 
  - God Bless RFKjr.!  mdmc   Jul-13-07 12:16 PM   #87 
  - it is true and I am disgusted  leftchick   Jul-13-07 03:43 PM   # 
  - Any chance this will sink Clinton and/or Edwards?  Alexander   Jul-13-07 03:47 PM   #129 
  - Actually Kucinich Camp is using FAUX news.  William769   Jul-13-07 09:20 AM   #3 
  - FAUX News is owned by Clinton supporter Rupert Murdock, isn't it? Why would  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 11:02 AM   #60 
     - whats to deny?  William769   Jul-13-07 12:12 PM   #86 
  - What's up with Edwards?  Strawman   Jul-13-07 09:20 AM   #4 
  - As if Kucinich did not exist to Edwards, I noticed that as well. At  slipslidingaway   Jul-13-07 05:10 PM   #131 
  - Edwards???  helderheid   Jul-13-07 09:20 AM   #5 
  - You're surprised?  Hardhead   Jul-13-07 03:00 PM   #118 
     - Bless your hard head, Hardhead.  Clark2008   Jul-13-07 09:08 PM   #135 
     - Yes, I am - because of all the candidates in 2004, Edwards was the one Kucinich liked the most.  helderheid   Jul-13-07 11:19 PM   #139 
  - "a more serious and smaller group" aka - only the well heeled need apply.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-13-07 09:21 AM   #6 
  - Brought to you by the CFR  formercia   Jul-13-07 09:28 AM   #12 
  - Oh yeah, corral the debate. I like the sound of that.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 09:23 AM   #7 
  - another Link USA Today:  helderheid   Jul-13-07 09:25 AM   #8 
  - Note: Edwards said maybe "sometime in the Fall" which would be at most 3 months before the primary  jsamuel   Jul-13-07 09:25 AM   #9 
  - Aha! So that is what they were talking about - pics  Kadie   Jul-13-07 09:27 AM   #10 
  - I can see Hillary saying this, but Edwards!? I feel ill. Edwards?  OnceUponTimeOnTheNet   Jul-13-07 10:16 AM   # 
  - Actually cutting the field down benefits Edwards  seasonedblue   Jul-13-07 11:11 AM   #70 
  - I think Edwards was saying:  cui bono   Jul-13-07 02:12 PM   #110 
  - "James" Edwards?  Alexander   Jul-13-07 03:43 PM   #127 
  - I want to hear the audio before I believe it.  King Coal   Jul-13-07 09:28 AM   #11 
  - there is nothing of substance to hear.  William769   Jul-13-07 09:31 AM   #13 
  - Please. Kucinich walked right up behind Edwards and heard it himself  Strawman   Jul-13-07 09:35 AM   #14 
  - Then why doesn't Kucinich say so?  William769   Jul-13-07 09:38 AM   #16 
  - I don't think Dennis was taping it himself  Strawman   Jul-13-07 09:51 AM   #20 
  - They are reporting what FAUX news said. Is that so hard to understand?  William769   Jul-13-07 10:12 AM   #31 
     - I have a tape of it  Texas_Kat   Jul-13-07 11:03 AM   #61 
     - Then please post it.  William769   Jul-13-07 11:05 AM   #63 
     - What is wrong with people?  durrrty libby   Jul-13-07 11:12 AM   #71 
        - Until you get caught at it  Texas_Kat   Jul-13-07 01:37 PM   #106 
        - No, it's called people making a mountain out of an anthill. It's  durrrty libby   Jul-13-07 02:03 PM   #107 
           - There's nothing feigned about my outrage, I'll guarantee you about that.  Texas_Kat   Jul-13-07 03:00 PM   #117 
        - Limiting candidates is against the spirit of democracy  leftwing9   Jul-13-07 02:35 PM   #114 
     - Is it your claim that this didn't happen, William769? Are you claiming Clinton and  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 11:07 AM   #65 
        - It is my claim that the audio is no good and everyone is taking FAUX news on face value.  William769   Jul-13-07 12:37 PM   #94 
  - Um...  WilliamPitt   Jul-13-07 09:53 AM   #21 
     - And the link doesn't say Kucinich heard it.  William769   Jul-13-07 10:11 AM   #29 
  - some people hear what they want to hear....selective hearing  NavyDavy   Jul-13-07 09:47 AM   #19 
  - It would be nice if we could hear it.  William769   Jul-13-07 10:13 AM   #32 
  - Show me one reference that shows Kucinich heard this himself.  rinsd   Jul-13-07 10:54 AM   #56 
  - Fair enough. It doesn't say DK heard it, but I think it's obvious what they are talking about  Strawman   Jul-13-07 11:10 AM   #69 
     - I am awaiting statements fromt he candidates.  rinsd   Jul-13-07 11:15 AM   #73 
        - I just called the Kucinich campaign  Strawman   Jul-13-07 11:32 AM   #77 
  - oh well, if ABC says it - it must be so.  mzteris   Jul-13-07 12:18 PM   #88 
     - Yeah, the knee-jerk response of jumping on the weak Faux connection  Strawman   Jul-13-07 12:52 PM   #100 
        - I listened - I didn't hear what everyone CLAIMS -  mzteris   Jul-13-07 12:57 PM   #102 
  - I agree .. an original untampered source would be nice to hear ..  wavesofeuphoria   Jul-13-07 12:43 PM   #96 
  - Kucinich is an idiot...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 09:37 AM   #15 
  - I agree 100%........gather the circular firing squad  NavyDavy   Jul-13-07 09:45 AM   #18 
  - Kucinich is not an idiot.  King Coal   Jul-13-07 10:04 AM   #23 
  - Really?  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 10:09 AM   #26 
  - You better look again before you spout untruths.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:16 AM   #36 
  - Care to elaborate?...nt  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 10:23 AM   #42 
     - Where's your links to all those lies?  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:24 AM   #43 
        - Here you go...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 10:38 AM   #46 
           - You offer two limp burnt offerings re abortion and flag burning. OMG  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:41 AM   #48 
              - Typical...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 10:51 AM   #53 
              - Now Just A Cotton Pickin' Minute!  iamjoy   Jul-13-07 09:04 PM   #134 
                 - Thank more than one issue voter!  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 11:21 PM   #140 
  - I say that would make him a dynamic thinker, if true.  King Coal   Jul-13-07 10:43 AM   #50 
     - I suppose they'll take one from the right-wing playbook and call him a flip flopper too.  Beelzebud   Jul-13-07 10:50 AM   #52 
     - Right...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 10:52 AM   #54 
        - You don't think Hillary has ever changed a position?  King Coal   Jul-13-07 10:55 AM   #57 
           - She has never made a gear stripping switch...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 10:57 AM   #58 
              - Well I have. I used to be anti-abortion and I have changed my view.  King Coal   Jul-13-07 11:04 AM   #62 
                 - Right before running for President...?  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 11:09 AM   #66 
                    - Better than her switching to pandering to the right.  King Coal   Jul-13-07 12:06 PM   #83 
                       - What issues does she pander to the right on...?  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 12:07 PM   #84 
                          - WAR - huh, Good God y'all  mdmc   Jul-13-07 12:26 PM   #91 
                             - Wrong...go back and read the actual statements...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 12:28 PM   #92 
                             - our troops are fighting... some of us thought invasion was a mistake  mdmc   Jul-13-07 12:40 PM   #95 
                             - Neither Giuliani or Thompson would be better  vote 4 democracy   Jul-13-07 09:55 PM   #138 
  - King Coal consider the outsourcing here. LOL  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:42 AM   #49 
     - LOL!  King Coal   Jul-13-07 10:58 AM   #59 
  - Well, I'm going to send that idiot a contribution today because  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-07 10:17 AM   #39 
  - Coming from someone with a Hillary avatar, that is a compliment...  Beelzebud   Jul-13-07 10:38 AM   #47 
  - Hillary is an ass.  mmonk   Jul-13-07 11:09 AM   #67 
  - Colluding to limit Democrat's choices is foul. Why won't they be out front about it?  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 11:14 AM   #72 
  - Let me ask you this...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 11:17 AM   #74 
     - My first criteria would be to exclude candidates in favor of excluding candidates.  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 11:31 AM   #76 
        - Answer the question...  SaveElmer   Jul-13-07 11:35 AM   #79 
           - Not if he favored colluding to fix debates, that's for sure!  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 12:20 PM   #90 
  - Candidates are not always free to participate in any forum/debate they wish.  cui bono   Jul-13-07 02:20 PM   #111 
  - "According to the Associated Press, Fox News Channel microphones"  madrchsod   Jul-13-07 10:00 AM   #22 
  - i would need to hear the audio  buddhamama   Jul-13-07 10:06 AM   #24 
  - This bothers me  bigwillq   Jul-13-07 10:07 AM   #25 
  - i could not agree more  buddhamama   Jul-13-07 10:10 AM   #27 
  - Indeed, you've summed up how I feel as well. n/t  tammywammy   Jul-13-07 10:11 AM   #30 
  - Well stated  Strawman   Jul-13-07 11:23 AM   #75 
  - "This is how things should be. Demeocrats working together to solv problems."  madrchsod   Jul-13-07 10:10 AM   #28 
  - The funny thing is that DK has more experience in office than either Hillary or Edwards!  WI_DEM   Jul-13-07 10:15 AM   #33 
  - :applause:  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:17 AM   #38 
  - Amy Goodman reported it on her show this a.m. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-07 10:16 AM   #34 
  - no surprise at all n/t  G_j   Jul-13-07 10:16 AM   #35 
  - It doesn't say Kucinich camp overheard the comments.  ieoeja   Jul-13-07 10:16 AM   #37 
  - Yep don't be sheeple people!  SIMPLYB1980   Jul-13-07 10:44 AM   #51 
  - Edwards' contingency plan?  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jul-13-07 10:18 AM   #40 
  - ...no matter how important or influential they PERCEIVE themselves to be,  notsodumbhillbilly   Jul-13-07 10:22 AM   #41 
  - This is Clinton's MO but I'm disappointed in Edwards.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-07 10:52 AM   #55 
  - Candidates hoping to eliminate other candidates. Wow what  durrrty libby   Jul-13-07 10:34 AM   #44 
  - True. That's why the DRE machines are good. Just another tool in the box of  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 11:34 AM   #78 
     - So sad that you can't seperate the wheat from the shaff  durrrty libby   Jul-13-07 11:49 AM   #81 
        - Targeting specific groups of voters is another great way to eliminate other candidates.  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 12:18 PM   #89 
           - Sorry, but your interpretation is way off the mark, but you already  durrrty libby   Jul-13-07 01:17 PM   #104 
              - Knew what, that Clinton and Edwards colluded to restrict our choice and alternative voices?  John Q. Citizen   Jul-13-07 08:08 PM   #132 
  - I would try to do the same if I were they.  robcon   Jul-13-07 10:36 AM   #45 
  - OMG! They want to run against less candidates than there are now?!1  Lex   Jul-13-07 11:07 AM   #64 
  - Good for DK for speaking up. Both Hillary and Edwards sense of entitlement is only consistent  The Count   Jul-13-07 11:09 AM   #68 
  - Um. They want a smaller group to have discussions with more depth. So what?  philosophie_en_rose   Jul-13-07 12:28 PM   #93 
  - Yeah, more depth... Dennis adds depth to every debate he is in.  cui bono   Jul-13-07 02:24 PM   #113 
  - "Fox News Channel microphones.."  madinmaryland   Jul-13-07 12:45 PM   #97 
  - Much ado about nothing  benny05   Jul-13-07 12:47 PM   #98 
  - it's a candidate's JOB to eliminate other candidates -- it's the PEOPLE'S job to keep the field open  nashville_brook   Jul-13-07 12:50 PM   #99 
  - Thom Hartman just referred to this and to DU  alyce douglas   Jul-13-07 12:53 PM   #101 
  - You mean dozens of people jumped to idiotic conclusions,and look foolish  durrrty libby   Jul-13-07 01:23 PM   #105 
  - Good for Clinton and Edwards!  Hamlette   Jul-13-07 01:04 PM   #103 
  - Why would you want to limit ideas and debate? That will only hurt the country.  cui bono   Jul-13-07 02:23 PM   #112 
  - I think we see entirely too much of Edwards, Hillary and Obama  Clark2008   Jul-13-07 09:16 PM   #136 
  - I have to hear for myself the audio of Fox's "tapes" since they say they exist.  David Zephyr   Jul-13-07 02:07 PM   #108 
  - Kucinich for president! He's the only one who ALWAYS puts the people first.  cui bono   Jul-13-07 02:08 PM   #109 
  - If I were Hillary, I would want DK OFF the STAGE too.  bvar22   Jul-13-07 02:38 PM   #115 
  - Of course they want DK off stage  Nunyabiz   Jul-13-07 03:30 PM   #124 
  - I saw that one Any Goodmans show today  blues90   Jul-13-07 02:47 PM   #116 
  - Re-elect Gore 2008!  JNelson6563   Jul-13-07 03:06 PM   #119 
  - How democratic of Hillary and John  Holly_Hobby   Jul-13-07 03:08 PM   #120 
  - WELL, that does it, I'm voting for Fred Thompson !  Catchawave   Jul-13-07 03:09 PM   #121 
  - Dennis speaks for freedom & democracy, Clinton & Edwards for  Vidar   Jul-13-07 03:23 PM   #122 
  - Considering Dennis' whole reason for being there is likely to effect the debate  LittleClarkie   Jul-13-07 03:29 PM   #123 
  - Why the surprise?  joe_sixpack   Jul-13-07 03:31 PM   #125 
  - Link to video  goodgd_yall   Jul-13-07 03:39 PM   #126 
  - Well Kucinich walked up to them as they were discussing this...  Alexander   Jul-13-07 03:45 PM   #128 
  - Can't have people expecting MEDICARE FOR ALL  redqueen   Jul-13-07 03:47 PM   #130 
  - Wow. Edwards is just DETERMINED to drive me to vote for Kooch, isn't he?  impeachdubya   Jul-13-07 08:11 PM   #133 
  - Yeah!  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 11:27 PM   #141 
  - She's a witch! Burn her!  Beausoir   Jul-13-07 09:21 PM   #137 
  - Have you seen THIS thread with THE REST OF THE STORY?  uppityperson   Jul-13-07 11:46 PM   #142 
  - I kind of agree....at some point....we need a smaller pool.  Scout1071   Jul-13-07 11:55 PM   #143 
  - Dennis is picking up momentum in the poles thats why this  lovuian   Jul-13-07 11:59 PM   #144 
     - "momentum in the poles"  WilliamPitt   Jul-14-07 07:38 AM   #145 
 

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