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Fri Jul-13-07 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #50 |
| 52. I suppose they'll take one from the right-wing playbook and call him a flip flopper too. |
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Meanwhile supporting a candidate that voted YES to war in Iraq, more than once....
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| -Kucinich Camp Overheard Clinton/Edwards Plan to Eliminate Candidates from Future Debates |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-13-07 09:15 AM |
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Go Dennis! |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jul-13-07 09:16 AM |
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Go Dennis (#2). I am voting for this guy in the primaries, Hill and John. :) |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jul-13-07 12:08 PM |
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Clinton...Edwards...wait, I'll put it a nice way...you will NEVER EVER get my vote. nt |
NotGivingUp |
Jul-13-07 09:19 AM |
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If this is true then Edwards just lost mine too |
shadowknows69 |
Jul-13-07 09:40 AM |
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yes- We need to take back OUR power from the Corporate media |
RFKJr4PRES |
Jul-13-07 11:44 AM |
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Welcome to DU |
shadowknows69 |
Jul-13-07 11:49 AM |
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God Bless RFKjr.! |
mdmc |
Jul-13-07 12:16 PM |
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it is true and I am disgusted |
leftchick |
Jul-13-07 03:43 PM |
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Any chance this will sink Clinton and/or Edwards? |
Alexander |
Jul-13-07 03:47 PM |
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Actually Kucinich Camp is using FAUX news. |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 09:20 AM |
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FAUX News is owned by Clinton supporter Rupert Murdock, isn't it? Why would |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 11:02 AM |
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whats to deny? |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 12:12 PM |
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What's up with Edwards? |
Strawman |
Jul-13-07 09:20 AM |
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As if Kucinich did not exist to Edwards, I noticed that as well. At |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-13-07 05:10 PM |
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Edwards??? |
helderheid |
Jul-13-07 09:20 AM |
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You're surprised? |
Hardhead |
Jul-13-07 03:00 PM |
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Bless your hard head, Hardhead. |
Clark2008 |
Jul-13-07 09:08 PM |
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Yes, I am - because of all the candidates in 2004, Edwards was the one Kucinich liked the most. |
helderheid |
Jul-13-07 11:19 PM |
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"a more serious and smaller group" aka - only the well heeled need apply. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-13-07 09:21 AM |
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Brought to you by the CFR |
formercia |
Jul-13-07 09:28 AM |
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Oh yeah, corral the debate. I like the sound of that. |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 09:23 AM |
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another Link USA Today: |
helderheid |
Jul-13-07 09:25 AM |
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Note: Edwards said maybe "sometime in the Fall" which would be at most 3 months before the primary |
jsamuel |
Jul-13-07 09:25 AM |
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Aha! So that is what they were talking about - pics |
Kadie |
Jul-13-07 09:27 AM |
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I can see Hillary saying this, but Edwards!? I feel ill. Edwards? |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Jul-13-07 10:16 AM |
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Actually cutting the field down benefits Edwards |
seasonedblue |
Jul-13-07 11:11 AM |
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I think Edwards was saying: |
cui bono |
Jul-13-07 02:12 PM |
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"James" Edwards? |
Alexander |
Jul-13-07 03:43 PM |
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I want to hear the audio before I believe it. |
King Coal |
Jul-13-07 09:28 AM |
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there is nothing of substance to hear. |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 09:31 AM |
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Please. Kucinich walked right up behind Edwards and heard it himself |
Strawman |
Jul-13-07 09:35 AM |
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Then why doesn't Kucinich say so? |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 09:38 AM |
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I don't think Dennis was taping it himself |
Strawman |
Jul-13-07 09:51 AM |
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They are reporting what FAUX news said. Is that so hard to understand? |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 10:12 AM |
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I have a tape of it |
Texas_Kat |
Jul-13-07 11:03 AM |
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Then please post it. |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 11:05 AM |
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What is wrong with people? |
durrrty libby |
Jul-13-07 11:12 AM |
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Until you get caught at it |
Texas_Kat |
Jul-13-07 01:37 PM |
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No, it's called people making a mountain out of an anthill. It's |
durrrty libby |
Jul-13-07 02:03 PM |
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There's nothing feigned about my outrage, I'll guarantee you about that. |
Texas_Kat |
Jul-13-07 03:00 PM |
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Limiting candidates is against the spirit of democracy |
leftwing9 |
Jul-13-07 02:35 PM |
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Is it your claim that this didn't happen, William769? Are you claiming Clinton and |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 11:07 AM |
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It is my claim that the audio is no good and everyone is taking FAUX news on face value. |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 12:37 PM |
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Um... |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-13-07 09:53 AM |
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And the link doesn't say Kucinich heard it. |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 10:11 AM |
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some people hear what they want to hear....selective hearing |
NavyDavy |
Jul-13-07 09:47 AM |
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It would be nice if we could hear it. |
William769 |
Jul-13-07 10:13 AM |
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Show me one reference that shows Kucinich heard this himself. |
rinsd |
Jul-13-07 10:54 AM |
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Fair enough. It doesn't say DK heard it, but I think it's obvious what they are talking about |
Strawman |
Jul-13-07 11:10 AM |
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I am awaiting statements fromt he candidates. |
rinsd |
Jul-13-07 11:15 AM |
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I just called the Kucinich campaign |
Strawman |
Jul-13-07 11:32 AM |
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oh well, if ABC says it - it must be so. |
mzteris |
Jul-13-07 12:18 PM |
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Yeah, the knee-jerk response of jumping on the weak Faux connection |
Strawman |
Jul-13-07 12:52 PM |
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I listened - I didn't hear what everyone CLAIMS - |
mzteris |
Jul-13-07 12:57 PM |
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I agree .. an original untampered source would be nice to hear .. |
wavesofeuphoria |
Jul-13-07 12:43 PM |
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Kucinich is an idiot... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 09:37 AM |
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I agree 100%........gather the circular firing squad |
NavyDavy |
Jul-13-07 09:45 AM |
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Kucinich is not an idiot. |
King Coal |
Jul-13-07 10:04 AM |
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Really? |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 10:09 AM |
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You better look again before you spout untruths. |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 10:16 AM |
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Care to elaborate?...nt |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 10:23 AM |
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Where's your links to all those lies? |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 10:24 AM |
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Here you go... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 10:38 AM |
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You offer two limp burnt offerings re abortion and flag burning. OMG |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 10:41 AM |
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Typical... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 10:51 AM |
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Now Just A Cotton Pickin' Minute! |
iamjoy |
Jul-13-07 09:04 PM |
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Thank more than one issue voter! |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 11:21 PM |
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I say that would make him a dynamic thinker, if true. |
King Coal |
Jul-13-07 10:43 AM |
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I suppose they'll take one from the right-wing playbook and call him a flip flopper too. |
Beelzebud |
Jul-13-07 10:50 AM |
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Right... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 10:52 AM |
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You don't think Hillary has ever changed a position? |
King Coal |
Jul-13-07 10:55 AM |
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She has never made a gear stripping switch... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 10:57 AM |
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Well I have. I used to be anti-abortion and I have changed my view. |
King Coal |
Jul-13-07 11:04 AM |
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Right before running for President...? |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 11:09 AM |
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Better than her switching to pandering to the right. |
King Coal |
Jul-13-07 12:06 PM |
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What issues does she pander to the right on...? |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 12:07 PM |
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WAR - huh, Good God y'all |
mdmc |
Jul-13-07 12:26 PM |
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Wrong...go back and read the actual statements... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 12:28 PM |
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our troops are fighting... some of us thought invasion was a mistake |
mdmc |
Jul-13-07 12:40 PM |
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Neither Giuliani or Thompson would be better |
vote 4 democracy |
Jul-13-07 09:55 PM |
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King Coal consider the outsourcing here. LOL |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 10:42 AM |
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LOL! |
King Coal |
Jul-13-07 10:58 AM |
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Well, I'm going to send that idiot a contribution today because |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-13-07 10:17 AM |
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Coming from someone with a Hillary avatar, that is a compliment... |
Beelzebud |
Jul-13-07 10:38 AM |
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Hillary is an ass. |
mmonk |
Jul-13-07 11:09 AM |
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Colluding to limit Democrat's choices is foul. Why won't they be out front about it? |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 11:14 AM |
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Let me ask you this... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 11:17 AM |
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My first criteria would be to exclude candidates in favor of excluding candidates. |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 11:31 AM |
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Answer the question... |
SaveElmer |
Jul-13-07 11:35 AM |
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Not if he favored colluding to fix debates, that's for sure! |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 12:20 PM |
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Candidates are not always free to participate in any forum/debate they wish. |
cui bono |
Jul-13-07 02:20 PM |
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"According to the Associated Press, Fox News Channel microphones" |
madrchsod |
Jul-13-07 10:00 AM |
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i would need to hear the audio |
buddhamama |
Jul-13-07 10:06 AM |
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This bothers me |
bigwillq |
Jul-13-07 10:07 AM |
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i could not agree more |
buddhamama |
Jul-13-07 10:10 AM |
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Indeed, you've summed up how I feel as well. n/t |
tammywammy |
Jul-13-07 10:11 AM |
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Well stated |
Strawman |
Jul-13-07 11:23 AM |
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"This is how things should be. Demeocrats working together to solv problems." |
madrchsod |
Jul-13-07 10:10 AM |
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The funny thing is that DK has more experience in office than either Hillary or Edwards! |
WI_DEM |
Jul-13-07 10:15 AM |
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:applause: |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 10:17 AM |
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Amy Goodman reported it on her show this a.m. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-13-07 10:16 AM |
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no surprise at all n/t |
G_j |
Jul-13-07 10:16 AM |
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It doesn't say Kucinich camp overheard the comments. |
ieoeja |
Jul-13-07 10:16 AM |
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Yep don't be sheeple people! |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Jul-13-07 10:44 AM |
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Edwards' contingency plan? |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jul-13-07 10:18 AM |
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...no matter how important or influential they PERCEIVE themselves to be, |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Jul-13-07 10:22 AM |
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This is Clinton's MO but I'm disappointed in Edwards. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-13-07 10:52 AM |
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Candidates hoping to eliminate other candidates. Wow what |
durrrty libby |
Jul-13-07 10:34 AM |
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True. That's why the DRE machines are good. Just another tool in the box of |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 11:34 AM |
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So sad that you can't seperate the wheat from the shaff |
durrrty libby |
Jul-13-07 11:49 AM |
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Targeting specific groups of voters is another great way to eliminate other candidates. |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 12:18 PM |
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Sorry, but your interpretation is way off the mark, but you already |
durrrty libby |
Jul-13-07 01:17 PM |
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Knew what, that Clinton and Edwards colluded to restrict our choice and alternative voices? |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-13-07 08:08 PM |
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I would try to do the same if I were they. |
robcon |
Jul-13-07 10:36 AM |
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OMG! They want to run against less candidates than there are now?!1 |
Lex |
Jul-13-07 11:07 AM |
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Good for DK for speaking up. Both Hillary and Edwards sense of entitlement is only consistent |
The Count |
Jul-13-07 11:09 AM |
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Um. They want a smaller group to have discussions with more depth. So what? |
philosophie_en_rose |
Jul-13-07 12:28 PM |
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Yeah, more depth... Dennis adds depth to every debate he is in. |
cui bono |
Jul-13-07 02:24 PM |
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"Fox News Channel microphones.." |
madinmaryland |
Jul-13-07 12:45 PM |
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Much ado about nothing |
benny05 |
Jul-13-07 12:47 PM |
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it's a candidate's JOB to eliminate other candidates -- it's the PEOPLE'S job to keep the field open |
nashville_brook |
Jul-13-07 12:50 PM |
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Thom Hartman just referred to this and to DU |
alyce douglas |
Jul-13-07 12:53 PM |
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You mean dozens of people jumped to idiotic conclusions,and look foolish |
durrrty libby |
Jul-13-07 01:23 PM |
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Good for Clinton and Edwards! |
Hamlette |
Jul-13-07 01:04 PM |
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Why would you want to limit ideas and debate? That will only hurt the country. |
cui bono |
Jul-13-07 02:23 PM |
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I think we see entirely too much of Edwards, Hillary and Obama |
Clark2008 |
Jul-13-07 09:16 PM |
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I have to hear for myself the audio of Fox's "tapes" since they say they exist. |
David Zephyr |
Jul-13-07 02:07 PM |
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Kucinich for president! He's the only one who ALWAYS puts the people first. |
cui bono |
Jul-13-07 02:08 PM |
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If I were Hillary, I would want DK OFF the STAGE too. |
bvar22 |
Jul-13-07 02:38 PM |
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Of course they want DK off stage |
Nunyabiz |
Jul-13-07 03:30 PM |
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I saw that one Any Goodmans show today |
blues90 |
Jul-13-07 02:47 PM |
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Re-elect Gore 2008! |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-13-07 03:06 PM |
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How democratic of Hillary and John |
Holly_Hobby |
Jul-13-07 03:08 PM |
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WELL, that does it, I'm voting for Fred Thompson ! |
Catchawave |
Jul-13-07 03:09 PM |
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Dennis speaks for freedom & democracy, Clinton & Edwards for |
Vidar |
Jul-13-07 03:23 PM |
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Considering Dennis' whole reason for being there is likely to effect the debate |
LittleClarkie |
Jul-13-07 03:29 PM |
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Why the surprise? |
joe_sixpack |
Jul-13-07 03:31 PM |
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Link to video |
goodgd_yall |
Jul-13-07 03:39 PM |
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Well Kucinich walked up to them as they were discussing this... |
Alexander |
Jul-13-07 03:45 PM |
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Can't have people expecting MEDICARE FOR ALL |
redqueen |
Jul-13-07 03:47 PM |
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Wow. Edwards is just DETERMINED to drive me to vote for Kooch, isn't he? |
impeachdubya |
Jul-13-07 08:11 PM |
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Yeah! |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-07 11:27 PM |
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She's a witch! Burn her! |
Beausoir |
Jul-13-07 09:21 PM |
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Have you seen THIS thread with THE REST OF THE STORY? |
uppityperson |
Jul-13-07 11:46 PM |
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I kind of agree....at some point....we need a smaller pool. |
Scout1071 |
Jul-13-07 11:55 PM |
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Dennis is picking up momentum in the poles thats why this |
lovuian |
Jul-13-07 11:59 PM |
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"momentum in the poles" |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-14-07 07:38 AM |
#145 |