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Reply #78: USA Today/Gallup Poll. July 6-8, 2007: 36% FOR impeachment; 62% NO impeachment [View All]

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78. USA Today/Gallup Poll. July 6-8, 2007: 36% FOR impeachment; 62% NO impeachment
The actual question was:

2. As you may know, impeachment is the first step in the constitutional process for removing a president from office, in which possible crimes are investigated and charges are made. Do you think there is or is not justification for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush at this time?

2007 Jul 6-8
Yes, is 36
No, is not 62
No opinion 3

MOE +/- 3%

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-07-09-bush...



I don't know if you remember or not but back in May of this year (2 short months ago) there were complaints that polling companies wouldn't ask about impeachment. Here are some sample headlines from the After Downing Street website.

June 2007: Harris does online poll on impeachment but does not publish results.

June 14, 2007: CNN's polling director comments on impeaching Cheney, but has done no poll.

June 4, 2007: American Research Group refuses to poll, even for money.

May 30, 2007: Harris refuses to poll on impeachment, even for money.

May 29, 2007: Ipsos refuses to poll on impeachment, even for money.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/polling


So, can you point me to a reliable poll showing that the majority of Americans wanted to impeach Bush that was contemporaneous to the when Gore was interviewed? Otherwise, Gore was correct when he said there was "no consensus in the nation as a whole to support such a proposition" he was correct. If he had said there was a consensus he would have been attacked by the political media as "making things up."

I did find a poll asking about impeachment back on June 30th that was conducted by Zogby. The results were 42% in favor of impeachment (if Bush lied about Iraq) and 50% were against it. (MOE +/ 3%) Below are the comments from which I got these figures. And, if you think about it, Gore's early June statement is mirrored in Zogby's comments especially in regards to no consensus across America. As you would expect, some areas are more supportive of impeachment than others.

Impeachment Question Shows Bitterness of Divide

In a sign of the continuing partisan division of the nation, more than two-in-five (42%) voters say that, if it is found that President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should hold him accountable through impeachment. While half (50%) of respondents do not hold this view, supporters of impeachment outweigh opponents in some parts of the country.

Among those living in the Western states, a 52% majority favors Congress using the impeachment mechanism while just 41% are opposed; in Eastern states, 49% are in favor and 45% opposed. In the South, meanwhile, impeachment is opposed by three-in-five voters (60%) and supported by just one-in-three (34%); in the Central/Great Lakes region, 52% are opposed and 38% in favor.

Impeachment is overwhelmingly rejected in the Red States—just 36% say they agree Congress should use it if the President is found to have lied on Iraq, while 55% reject this view; in the “Blue States” that voted for Massachusetts Democrat John Kerry in 2004, meanwhile, a plurality of 48% favors such proceedings while 45% are opposed.

A large majority of Democrats (59%) say they agree that the President should be impeached if he lied about Iraq, while just three-in-ten (30%) disagree. Among President Bush’s fellow Republicans, a full one-in-four (25%) indicate they would favor impeaching the President under these circumstances, while seven-in-ten (70%) do not. Independents are more closely divided, with 43% favoring impeachment and 49% opposed.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1007

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  Gore Opposes Impeachment maximusveritas  Jul-12-07 11:16 PM   #0 
   Then Gore need not run for president, he still seems to want to avoid  whistle   Jul-12-07 11:20 PM   #1 
   Avoid confrontation?  LittleClarkie   Jul-12-07 11:46 PM   #15 
   "xcuse me, this went to the USSC  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-13-07 01:47 AM   #51 
   Oh Please! He took it all the way to the US Supreme Court  book_worm   Jul-14-07 09:55 AM   #87 
   This is a month and a half old.  Zensea   Jul-12-07 11:20 PM   #2 
   Yes I know, but I think a lot of people missed it the first time  maximusveritas   Jul-12-07 11:26 PM   #6 
      I was not aware of it at all.  robinlynne   Jul-12-07 11:27 PM   #7 
      agreed ... now regarding his position (or any pols' position) on this--  Zensea   Jul-12-07 11:34 PM   #11 
   I read today in a DU article that there were ''0'' people  rooney   Jul-12-07 11:21 PM   #3 
   14  proud2Blib   Jul-14-07 09:53 AM   #85 
   He didn't say he wasn't against Impeachment...  WCGreen   Jul-12-07 11:23 PM   #4 
   Yeah, he's against pursuing impeachment. Same thing practically  maximusveritas   Jul-12-07 11:28 PM   #9 
   Sorry to fucking disappoint you, but Al is for what the American people are for.  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:16 AM   #68 
      Talking to me?  maximusveritas   Jul-13-07 05:58 PM   #82 
   Which is what all the Democrats not screaming "IMPEACH NOW!" are saying.  jobycom   Jul-12-07 11:33 PM   #10 
      Exactly!  mzmolly   Jul-12-07 11:52 PM   #22 
      No you're not...  WCGreen   Jul-12-07 11:55 PM   #23 
         Thank YOU.  mzmolly   Jul-12-07 11:57 PM   #25 
      Good grief, how much more evidence do you people need???  proud2Blib   Jul-14-07 09:52 AM   #84 
   WHY?  shireen   Jul-12-07 11:24 PM   #5 
   He explained why. nt  jobycom   Jul-12-07 11:34 PM   #12 
      i don't understand his explanation as written in the main post  shireen   Jul-13-07 01:42 AM   #50 
   We don't know the itemization of Gore's thinking that informed his  Old Crusoe   Jul-12-07 11:27 PM   #8 
   Your post mirrors what Pelosi has said Old Crusoe.  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 12:00 AM   #28 
      Oops. I didn't mean to quote the Speaker without her permission.  Old Crusoe   Jul-13-07 12:24 AM   #36 
      Ya know, I bet all progressives would agree on this?  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 12:45 AM   #40 
      If we had impeached Nixon, we wouldn't have these monsters today  proud2Blib   Jul-14-07 09:55 AM   #86 
   What a republican!  philosophie_en_rose   Jul-12-07 11:39 PM   #13 
   ...  Blue State Native   Jul-13-07 12:13 AM   #35 
   I have listened to a number of things that Gore  zalinda   Jul-12-07 11:43 PM   #14 
   The biggest groundswell for an impeachment in US history.  mmonk   Jul-13-07 04:37 PM   #80 
   AL-- you're breaking my fucking heart!  orleans   Jul-12-07 11:50 PM   #16 
   He doesn't feel it would succeed at this time.  mzmolly   Jul-12-07 11:50 PM   #17 
   If Sheehan goes to protest him for this, the opposing cults of personality will make DU explode  jpgray   Jul-12-07 11:51 PM   #18 
   For that, we'll need The Popcorn Train  Truthiness Inspector   Jul-13-07 12:30 AM   #37 
   irresistable force, meet immoveable object!  northernsoul   Jul-13-07 01:49 PM   #72 
   and your purpose was?  greenbriar   Jul-12-07 11:51 PM   #19 
   And I disagree with Gore on this issue.  LWolf   Jul-12-07 11:51 PM   #20 
   Would you support Sheehan protesting Gore, to change his mind?  jpgray   Jul-12-07 11:52 PM   #21 
      Good question JPG.  mzmolly   Jul-12-07 11:56 PM   #24 
      No.  emilyg   Jul-13-07 12:56 AM   #46 
      Let's back up a step, and look at the larger picture.  LWolf   Jul-13-07 09:18 AM   #65 
   This is a bottom-up phenomenon, not top-down.  PBass   Jul-12-07 11:57 PM   #26 
   Damn straight!  Swamp Rat   Jul-12-07 11:59 PM   #27 
   Gore essentially said what you did. He's not opposed per se.  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 12:02 AM   #31 
   Recommended. I think this pertains to recent discussion.  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 12:01 AM   #29 
   I'm #8  sandnsea   Jul-13-07 01:58 AM   #52 
      Well, I'm an "Al for President" person,  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 11:10 AM   #70 
      Well we're up to 12  sandnsea   Jul-13-07 01:47 PM   #71 
         Depends on the day I suppose?  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 02:14 PM   #75 
      I support impeachment and I support Al Gore for President.  Uncle Joe   Jul-13-07 01:58 PM   #73 
         I think his is a reasonable conclusion  sandnsea   Jul-13-07 02:36 PM   #76 
   oh geezz who gives a ras a, when this guy would not even stand up against  phildo   Jul-13-07 12:01 AM   #30 
   What about this thread is "choosing Gore"  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 12:04 AM   #32 
   Actually Gore formally asked the FBI to investigate the Florida disenfranchisement on 11/12/00  AlGore-08.com   Jul-13-07 03:42 AM   #57 
      Thanks for the refresher.  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 11:08 AM   #69 
      Kicked for this post.  Uncle Joe   Jul-13-07 02:04 PM   #74 
   No,  losthills   Jul-13-07 12:07 AM   #33 
      Welcome!  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 12:10 AM   #34 
   I'd just like to hear one candidate (the ones running) say  shadowknows69   Jul-13-07 12:36 AM   #38 
   I fully agree. I just worry that it would distract from bringing home the troops?  mzmolly   Jul-13-07 12:47 AM   #41 
   Screw what Gore thinks, remember, he was the genius who chose Lieberman as his running mate in  Imagevision   Jul-13-07 12:44 AM   #39 
   He was the DLC number one draft pick that year  shadowknows69   Jul-13-07 12:50 AM   #42 
   Gore is never of much help when you need him --  defendandprotect   Jul-13-07 12:51 AM   #43 
   Okay, time to split hairs.  sueh   Jul-13-07 12:54 AM   #44 
   That's true. I think Zogby had 54% as considering impeachment  jpgray   Jul-13-07 01:07 AM   #48 
   There wasn't 'consensus in the nation' for Clinton's impeachment  Canuckistanian   Jul-13-07 12:56 AM   #45 
   K&R  seasonedblue   Jul-13-07 12:59 AM   #47 
   Yes, Gore Fails Again. Is That So Surprising?  Senator   Jul-13-07 01:40 AM   #49 
   His book is practically a roadmap FOR impeachment.  fooj   Jul-13-07 02:16 AM   #54 
      And yet it leads to a Dead End  Senator   Jul-13-07 03:22 AM   #56 
         Gore wasn't a Senator - - he couldn't join the Florida 14 in challenging the electors  AlGore-08.com   Jul-13-07 04:22 AM   #59 
            Gore needed no "legal avenues"  Senator   Jul-13-07 09:07 AM   #62 
   "and with no consensus in the nation"  fooj   Jul-13-07 02:12 AM   #53 
   I've been really quiet on impeachment...  Chulanowa   Jul-13-07 02:38 AM   #55 
   Comparing with Clinton is Oxymoronic  Senator   Jul-13-07 03:47 AM   #58 
      you said it Senator...  marions ghost   Jul-13-07 09:11 AM   #63 
   He's wrong. I'm switching to Kucinich. n/t  deacon   Jul-13-07 04:37 AM   #60 
   Hey kids ...  Everybody   Jul-13-07 06:52 AM   #61 
   Does this mean Cindy is going to run against him too?...nt  SidDithers   Jul-13-07 09:14 AM   #64 
   with no consensus in the nation as a whole to support such a proposition  lonestarnot   Jul-13-07 10:14 AM   #66 
   "no consensus in the nation as a whole to support such a proposition"  DireStrike   Jul-13-07 10:16 AM   #67 
   It's pretty easy to see why Gore is against impeachment:  EOO   Jul-13-07 02:41 PM   #77 
   USA Today/Gallup Poll. July 6-8, 2007: 36% FOR impeachment; 62% NO impeachment  Mabus   Jul-13-07 03:56 PM   #78 
   IMHO, 36% is very high, given that the opposition party official opposes impeachment  wiggs   Jul-13-07 04:34 PM   #79 
      Still, this poll wasn't done until July. Gore was interviewed in early June  Mabus   Jul-13-07 05:26 PM   #81 
   I'm a supporter Al, but you're wrong. Nothing happens until Impeachment!  autorank   Jul-13-07 08:18 PM   #83 
 

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