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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:03 AM
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45. Party stalwarts are the PROBLEM, not the solution!
Look at what happened when the Dem leadership decided to fund the damned war. They made a calculation, which was simple, keep the war going until 2008, so that the Dem candidate for president can have an issue to beat the Republicans with.

These "people" would rather kill off our troops and Iraqi civilians for a few votes than do something that is right, and we are supposed to vote for these assholes? What for?
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  -Regarding Sheehan and blind support for Democrats mwalker  Jul-09-07 12:21 AM   #0 
  - well said-- rec'd....  mike_c   Jul-09-07 12:23 AM   #1 
  - Whether you disagree or not  MonkeyFunk   Jul-09-07 12:25 AM   #2 
  - I agree with you. I wish more people would pay attention to their  glowing   Jul-09-07 12:29 AM   #3 
  - are progessives who support progressive Dems in primaries but then do their best to support whoever  cryingshame   Jul-09-07 07:45 AM   #39 
  - I don't think anyone's trying stifle your ability to debate....  Tarheel_Dem   Jul-09-07 12:30 AM   #4 
  - WTF do you think the " DEMOCRATIC" in DU means.  seriousstan   Jul-09-07 12:31 AM   #5 
  - Perhaps...  Captain Angry   Jul-09-07 12:49 AM   #6 
  - What do you think the "U" stands for?  Beelzebud   Jul-09-07 10:20 AM   #52 
  - Good question.  billyoc   Jul-09-07 10:37 PM   #64 
  - Apparently, you think it means...  TechBear_Seattle   Jul-09-07 10:51 PM   #65 
  - Re: WTF do you think the " DEMOCRATIC" in DU means.  mwalker   Jul-09-07 12:50 AM   #7 
  - And, Cindy should "direct the course" of the Party from within, like Paul Wellstone did.  mzmolly   Jul-09-07 12:55 AM   #9 
  - These dust ups may be good for the party in the long term.  sfexpat2000   Jul-09-07 01:06 AM   #13 
  - sfexpat2000 in a word, you've got it n/t  DeSwiss   Jul-09-07 01:56 AM   #16 
  - It's not an honest primary challenge.  aquart   Jul-09-07 02:11 AM   #19 
  - Okay.  sfexpat2000   Jul-09-07 02:15 AM   #21 
  - I didn't really get your point last night. But, I do this morning.  sfexpat2000   Jul-09-07 12:59 PM   #60 
  - Gotcha Sfexpat. I just wish she would run as a Dem so I could fully  mzmolly   Jul-09-07 10:20 AM   #51 
  - Wellstone had a proven track record as a great legislator..  Virginia Dare   Jul-09-07 07:49 AM   #42 
     - I agree. My point was that Paul Wellstone remained a Democrat.  mzmolly   Jul-09-07 10:19 AM   #50 
     - And a good point it was...  Virginia Dare   Jul-09-07 11:46 AM   #56 
        - ... with open arms.  mzmolly   Jul-09-07 12:04 PM   #58 
     - well said!  Blue_Roses   Jul-09-07 12:03 PM   #57 
     - I think part of CIndy's problem is that she doesn't have any handlers  truedelphi   Jul-11-07 01:28 PM   #75 
  - Agreed. The minute we start being released talking points memos  Connonym   Jul-10-07 06:05 AM   #70 
  - That "blind support" comment works both ways. I don't consider it blind to support  mzmolly   Jul-09-07 12:54 AM   #8 
  - Not the first time I've heard someone here say that.  Usrename   Jul-09-07 01:02 AM   #11 
  - Who supports criminal conduct?  philosophie_en_rose   Jul-09-07 02:01 AM   #18 
  - And beyond that sound bite, what "criminal conduct" has Pelosi been involved in?  mzmolly   Jul-09-07 10:21 AM   #53 
  - Ending the war is a progressive cause  proud2Blib   Jul-09-07 08:12 AM   #47 
     - Of course it is. It's the most important progressive cause IMHO.  mzmolly   Jul-09-07 10:21 AM   #54 
     - I doubt you will find many Democrats who support an indefinite..  Virginia Dare   Jul-09-07 12:38 PM   #59 
  - Well said !  LibertyorDeath   Jul-09-07 12:59 AM   #10 
  - I don't see most Duers "blindly" supporting Dems.  Disturbed   Jul-09-07 01:10 AM   #14 
  - My support for Pelosi is not "blind". (nt)  w4rma   Jul-09-07 01:04 AM   #12 
  - Nobody is saying you can't support Sheehan  Marrah_G   Jul-09-07 01:14 AM   #15 
  - Regarding Democrats and Blind Support for Cindy Sheehan  philosophie_en_rose   Jul-09-07 01:59 AM   #17 
  - Discussion of third party candidates is allowed, advocacy is not  Hippo_Tron   Jul-09-07 05:02 AM   #30 
  - Its real f'in simple  quinnox   Jul-09-07 02:14 AM   #20 
  - I agree in part, but...  WilliamPitt   Jul-09-07 02:30 AM   #22 
  - well said  bigtree   Jul-09-07 07:51 AM   #44 
  - Party stalwarts are the PROBLEM, not the solution!  Solon   Jul-09-07 08:03 AM   #45 
  - They certainly are the problem  notsodumbhillbilly   Jul-09-07 11:29 AM   #55 
  - I agree with you in the House where we have a larger majority  MessiahRp   Jul-09-07 08:28 AM   #49 
  - I understand your point of view, but there are a lot of "if's" involved.  puebloknot   Jul-09-07 11:15 PM   #67 
  - blind support for Dems is better than promoting Cindy Sheehan to godlike status, like many have done  ComerPerro   Jul-09-07 02:40 AM   #23 
  - Great post!  Marrah_G   Jul-09-07 03:14 AM   #26 
  - Instead of using the term 'blind support,'  murielm99   Jul-09-07 04:46 AM   #28 
  - Thank You for you post! Get Progressive Dems on the local ballots & fight like hell  cryingshame   Jul-09-07 07:51 AM   #43 
  - Amen!  seasonedblue   Jul-10-07 11:39 AM   #74 
  - Cindy is a visionary - she is the American twenty first century  truedelphi   Jul-10-07 12:52 AM   #68 
     - wow, a true believer. And a Gandhi comparison. Damn...  ComerPerro   Jul-10-07 01:45 AM   #69 
     - There are over 3,600 mothers most QUIETLY practicing "the ideals of pacifism"  GreenTea   Jul-11-07 01:43 PM   #78 
  - Regardless, it would be hypocritical considering how Lieberman supporters were treated  LittleClarkie   Jul-09-07 02:47 AM   #24 
  - Lieberman supports the war, Cindy wants it ended. She is a true progressive  proud2Blib   Jul-09-07 08:21 AM   #48 
     - They'll never stop equivocating  Moochy   Jul-10-07 11:34 AM   #73 
  - The lines have been blurred with regard to "Democratic" officeholders these  diva77   Jul-09-07 03:07 AM   #25 
  - You can support who you want  bowens43   Jul-09-07 04:32 AM   #27 
  - Prefer she run as a Dem  OzarkDem   Jul-09-07 04:51 AM   #29 
  - Kool-aid comes in more than one flavor  radfringe   Jul-09-07 05:05 AM   #31 
  - It's pretty simple actually  Hippo_Tron   Jul-09-07 05:09 AM   #32 
  - I agree, it should be progressive ideals, not party affiliation  Dragonbreathp9d   Jul-09-07 07:29 AM   #33 
  - Valid point, but it's not the purpose of this board..  Virginia Dare   Jul-09-07 07:44 AM   #38 
  - Qui tacet consentire videtur  leftchick   Jul-09-07 07:38 AM   #34 
  - Tish, that' s French...  DancingBear   Jul-09-07 07:39 AM   #35 
     - lol!  leftchick   Jul-09-07 07:48 AM   #41 
  - What makes you think the support is "blind"...  Virginia Dare   Jul-09-07 07:41 AM   #36 
  - There are progressive DEMOCRATS who could run in primaries, you know. It isn't blind support  cryingshame   Jul-09-07 07:42 AM   #37 
  - K & R - very well said and much appreciated n/t  timeforarevolution   Jul-09-07 07:47 AM   #40 
  - Well said & recommended. If her constituents choose to give  Vidar   Jul-09-07 08:06 AM   #46 
  - This is a silly post  Vinnie From Indy   Jul-09-07 09:32 PM   #61 
  - Results are most important/ Look what's at stake  creeksneakers2   Jul-09-07 10:08 PM   #62 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-07 10:09 PM   #63 
  - K&R Superbly said!  puebloknot   Jul-09-07 11:10 PM   #66 
  - Great post, mwalker!  pberq   Jul-10-07 11:21 AM   #71 
  - We've been chained to "politics as usual" for far too long. K&R  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-10-07 11:30 AM   #72 
  - We've been chained to LOSING for too long.  churchofreality   Jul-11-07 01:36 PM   #77 
  - Anyone Encouraging The Election Of Cindy As An Indy Needs To Take It Off DU. Deal With It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-11-07 01:35 PM   #76 

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