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Mon Jul-02-07 08:40 AM
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| 96. Once again, it's not "socialized" medicine. It's NATIONAL HEALTH CARE. |
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Not only is it inaccurate to use the misnomer "socialized medicine," your continued insistence in using the term despite being told of its inaccuracy is probably an indication of your true motives for being here. Nevertheless, I will spend some time trying to educate you on the off chance you are simply naive.
Socialized medicine is a system in which the government OWNS the hospitals, equipment and infrastructure. Doctors, nurses and other health practitioners are employees of the GOVERNMENT.
National health care is a SINGLE-PAYER system.
Medicare is an example of a SINGLE-PAYER system.
Medicare patients:
1. Choose their own doctors, specialists and facilities
2. Pay premiums and deductibles like anyone else
3. Enjoy the economic benefits and bargaining power of being part of a huge group health plan administered by an entity that is not profit-motivated.
Instead of parroting rightwing lies, why don't you educate yourself and help us make health care available for everyone, not just those who can afford it?
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| -Michael Moore got almost everything right about Canada's health care system. |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 09:09 PM |
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It was a very strong hour |
eleny |
Jun-29-07 09:11 PM |
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He has a heart of gold. He really does. I am so happy his opening night numbers are so good. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-29-07 09:22 PM |
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What did he say about the numbers? |
senseandsensibility |
Jun-29-07 09:28 PM |
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No. Larry King said he just got word that the opening night numbers were HUGE, but no specific |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-29-07 09:42 PM |
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Enjoy the film tomorrow! |
senseandsensibility |
Jun-29-07 09:47 PM |
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I went to see it tonight. It was packed. |
mmonk |
Jun-29-07 11:02 PM |
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I`m so envious of your health care system. |
rubberducky |
Jun-29-07 09:27 PM |
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Let's pray that Michael's movie spurs your government to do something |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 09:32 PM |
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Thanks! Without MM nobody would pay any attention. |
rubberducky |
Jun-29-07 09:35 PM |
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Jun-29-07 10:41 PM |
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Uninformed crap...nt |
SidDithers |
Jun-29-07 10:49 PM |
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Care to elaborate? |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 10:55 PM |
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The rightwing talking points about waiting times... |
SidDithers |
Jun-29-07 10:59 PM |
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So |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 11:02 PM |
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The British Parliament is talking about Canadian Health Care?... |
SidDithers |
Jun-29-07 11:04 PM |
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Sorry |
Crome |
Jun-30-07 12:42 AM |
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And all socialized health care is exactly the same |
proud2Blib |
Jun-30-07 11:03 AM |
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Health Care is expensive |
ProudDad |
Jul-02-07 02:22 AM |
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Well, you didn't have to wait long for your funeral. LOL! nt |
blondeatlast |
Jul-02-07 09:58 AM |
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they use the same propagandists on them they use on us ..dipstick |
sam sarrha |
Jun-30-07 10:57 AM |
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Oh, my, my, my..... |
Spazito |
Jun-29-07 10:49 PM |
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Your dime! |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 11:00 PM |
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If you are getting your healthcare "free of charge" (to you anyway)... |
Contrary1 |
Jun-29-07 11:07 PM |
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Notice |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 11:16 PM |
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Well, on that we agree... |
Contrary1 |
Jun-29-07 11:28 PM |
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Thank you |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 11:50 PM |
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I really worry about this |
Contrary1 |
Jun-30-07 01:14 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jun-30-07 10:36 AM |
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No one is suggesting a "Socialized System" |
ProudDad |
Jul-02-07 02:29 AM |
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LOL, a suggestion, look up the meaning of "subtle" |
Spazito |
Jun-29-07 11:17 PM |
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Alas, Crome's "free" health care was not enough... |
Bridget Burke |
Jul-02-07 06:39 AM |
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But it was quick and painless! LOL! nt |
blondeatlast |
Jul-02-07 09:59 AM |
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Got any numbers or statistics to back that up? |
hatrack |
Jun-29-07 10:51 PM |
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A cover |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 11:07 PM |
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You are very uniformed. |
nonconformist |
Jun-29-07 10:57 PM |
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Please feel free |
Crome |
Jun-30-07 12:54 AM |
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My friend in Australia waits and waits to see a doctor... |
Contrary1 |
Jun-29-07 10:57 PM |
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Your post about Canada's health care is nothing but falsehoods! |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 11:10 PM |
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Poor level of care, my ass! |
TommyO |
Jun-29-07 11:19 PM |
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So |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 11:26 PM |
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Maybe you should spend less time watching... |
SidDithers |
Jun-29-07 11:50 PM |
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Canadians? |
Crome |
Jun-30-07 12:03 AM |
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At least one Canadian has already posted on this thread |
TommyO |
Jun-30-07 12:05 AM |
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For heaven's sake...just READ my posts, Spazito's posts and others here |
glarius |
Jun-30-07 12:06 AM |
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Are you 100% sure about that? |
Crome |
Jun-30-07 12:22 AM |
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You make no sense!.....get some sleep! |
glarius |
Jun-30-07 01:42 AM |
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you are a right wing whore |
Skittles |
Jul-02-07 02:41 AM |
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The OP is a Canadian |
alarimer |
Jul-02-07 07:38 AM |
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Crome has left the building |
Big Pappa |
Jun-30-07 01:21 AM |
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Not surprised... |
SidDithers |
Jun-30-07 10:53 AM |
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I miss him already. nt |
nonconformist |
Jun-30-07 11:03 AM |
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Too bad I missed him |
Canuckistanian |
Jun-30-07 03:04 PM |
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Not with a bang, but a whimper. LAMEST...blaze of glory...EVER! nm |
dicksteele |
Jul-02-07 07:59 AM |
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It appears your year is up |
proud2Blib |
Jun-30-07 11:06 AM |
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Canada doesn't have "Socialized Medicine" |
ProudDad |
Jul-02-07 02:33 AM |
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Once again, it's not "socialized" medicine. It's NATIONAL HEALTH CARE. |
Doremus |
Jul-02-07 08:40 AM |
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I have one correction fo make about our health care: |
glarius |
Jul-02-07 10:27 AM |
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Actually, glarious, I do pay a monthly premium |
Spazito |
Jul-02-07 11:15 AM |
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I wasn't aware of that....I'm retired too....here in Ontario we don't pay anything |
glarius |
Jul-02-07 01:15 PM |
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Each province sets their criteria as to whether there are |
Spazito |
Jul-02-07 01:27 PM |
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Actually, the anthill is our current system... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-02-07 09:20 AM |
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No! No very short stay... |
Contrary1 |
Jun-29-07 11:32 PM |
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:) |
Crome |
Jun-29-07 11:52 PM |
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Please, sober up |
ProudDad |
Jul-02-07 02:34 AM |
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We've heard those "other opinions" for over a decade |
kgfnally |
Jun-30-07 12:06 PM |
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Agreed... |
greyghost |
Jun-30-07 12:02 AM |
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To answer your questions |
Selatius |
Jun-30-07 12:07 AM |
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Crome by your own admission in post #31 you're drunk. Sleep it off and and BTW.... |
gbrooks |
Jun-30-07 12:15 AM |
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I hear ya |
Crome |
Jun-30-07 12:38 AM |
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No worries man. I'm half cranked myself. But health care is the silver |
gbrooks |
Jun-30-07 01:03 AM |
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"I just want to know what the better system is." |
ProudDad |
Jul-02-07 02:39 AM |
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boy, you're all over the place with that post |
fishwax |
Jun-30-07 01:20 AM |
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I would rather wait than get no care at all |
proud2Blib |
Jun-30-07 11:01 AM |
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Huh....? |
tbyg52 |
Jun-30-07 12:31 PM |
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Interesting |
ramapo |
Jun-29-07 09:31 PM |
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That's how they keep you from demanding universal care...thru lies! |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 09:36 PM |
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A lot of people don't like the Canadian healthcare system. |
Lasher |
Jun-29-07 11:14 PM |
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LOL.....n/t |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 11:22 PM |
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The Insurance companies and their $$$$$ put all those negative stories out. This film is |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-29-07 09:44 PM |
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I've looked, but cannot find a link that supports that. |
Contrary1 |
Jun-29-07 10:44 PM |
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Here is a document that might help you.... |
Spazito |
Jun-29-07 10:54 PM |
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Thanks Spazito.....I knew the statistic but didn't know where to find it! |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 11:15 PM |
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You're welcome! |
Spazito |
Jun-29-07 11:23 PM |
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Did you see Anderson Cooper's show after Larry King?...He had people |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 11:31 PM |
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All they have, pathetically, is the issue of wait times |
Spazito |
Jun-29-07 11:39 PM |
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The thing about wait times is silly since Americans say they have wait times |
glarius |
Jun-29-07 11:43 PM |
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I can say I, too, know of no one who has waited for care beyond |
Spazito |
Jun-29-07 11:54 PM |
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my wife had to wait 6 years here for a hip replacement.. they refused Xrays to diagnose till the |
sam sarrha |
Jun-30-07 11:22 AM |
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sam, I am so saddened by your post, this should NOT happen! |
Spazito |
Jun-30-07 11:52 AM |
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Anyone with an HMO in America... |
greyghost |
Jun-30-07 12:00 AM |
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Business Week recently debunked a lot of the "wait time" myth |
NewJeffCT |
Jul-02-07 08:03 AM |
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Gee, they didn't mention |
ProudDad |
Jul-02-07 02:44 AM |
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Care for some more ammo? |
Lasher |
Jun-29-07 11:23 PM |
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How does it deal with cosmetic surgery? |
barb162 |
Jun-29-07 11:18 PM |
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Cosmetic surgery is not covered unless it is a medical |
Spazito |
Jun-29-07 11:24 PM |
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Yes, a fair line. |
barb162 |
Jun-29-07 11:41 PM |
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n/t |
greyghost |
Jun-29-07 11:57 PM |
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i'm going to watch mm on the late rerun (in about twenty minutes) |
orleans |
Jun-30-07 01:39 AM |
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I'm seeing it tomorow and I can't wait. I'm watching him on the repeat |
Lindsey |
Jun-30-07 02:20 AM |
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I don't think Americans would tolerate some features |
cgrindley |
Jun-30-07 02:06 AM |
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So much is wrong here, where to start... |
laundry_queen |
Jun-30-07 12:33 PM |
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hopefully the birth of your child will help you deal with |
annabanana |
Jun-30-07 07:04 PM |
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What you have described in no way resembles any experience I or my |
glarius |
Jun-30-07 07:44 PM |
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Well... |
dicksteele |
Jul-02-07 10:14 AM |
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Canadian doctors treat patients like numbers and us 'Merkins wouldn't like that, you say? |
dicksteele |
Jul-02-07 10:01 AM |
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What I heard from a friend of my mom's |
jollyreaper2112 |
Jul-02-07 10:05 AM |
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A recent poll said 93% Canadians want to keep our system...That should tell you something. |
glarius |
Jul-02-07 10:30 AM |
#104 |
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