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God I love to read reasonable posts.
We have very good immigration laws on the books, if they were to enforced against the corporations and the private citizens taking advantage of illegals by giving them work for cheap wages and no benefits and working them in dangerous conditions not covered by OSHA or other laws regulating the work force, then the fines from enforceing the laws could go to the needs associated with housing and deportation of illegals and proper monitoring of the system. My grandparents began as illegals and they followed the laws, took the tests and became legal citizens. It can happen without changing the laws relative to the immigration policies of the nation. What has to change are the laws or the lack of enforcement of laws that allow corporations and the elite to hire illegals and get away with it. The slave owners.
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| -Sad day for America and humanity |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 10:28 AM |
#0 |
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Not to mention we're the laughing stock of the free world now |
shadowknows69 |
Jun-28-07 10:29 AM |
#1 |
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Wow, hubris mixed with hyperbole. Contrary to popular American belief, not everyone |
Dave From Canada |
Jun-29-07 12:52 PM |
#261 |
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Well there seem to be plenty around here who also oppose the immigration bill |
bryant69 |
Jun-28-07 10:31 AM |
#2 |
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Amen! |
Nimrod2005 |
Jun-28-07 10:33 AM |
#3 |
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It succeeded in leaving 12 million people out in the cold. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-28-07 10:34 AM |
#4 |
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Call me old school... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:21 AM |
#17 |
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I'm not "for" illegals either. I have little to no sympathy for them. |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:27 AM |
#21 |
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I have a great deal of sympathy for illegal immigrants, but that doesn't mean they should be in the |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 11:51 AM |
#67 |
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So you choose which human beings you care about based on where they were born |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 11:32 AM |
#25 |
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Bullshit. I use Mexico as an example because it's the obvious example. |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:47 AM |
#57 |
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I think you put this in the wrong spot. but ok |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 11:48 AM |
#63 |
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Lol |
OhioBlues |
Jun-28-07 11:57 AM |
#79 |
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Ooops! My eyes failed me--sorry! |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:17 PM |
#94 |
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It is the only birth characteristic that most DU'ers find an acceptable |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 12:23 PM |
#99 |
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not so much based on where they were born |
mediawatch |
Jun-28-07 03:54 PM |
#163 |
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Yes, nativism & xenophobia have a long history in the USA. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 12:45 PM |
#110 |
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same with me |
madokie |
Jun-28-07 03:55 PM |
#165 |
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Do you hold a grudge because an undocumented worker damaged your caps lock key ? |
Telly Savalas |
Jun-29-07 07:45 AM |
#232 |
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not to sound ignorant but this bill failed could someone just explain |
alyce douglas |
Jun-28-07 10:37 AM |
#5 |
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They won't fare as well as the illegal EMPLOYERS who lure them |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 10:48 AM |
#6 |
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Exactly |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:13 AM |
#10 |
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I am not happy, but I agree that the Repubs and the Blue Dog |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 12:00 PM |
#82 |
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Exactly. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 11:19 AM |
#14 |
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"It assured absolutely NO improvement in human conditions - either alien or domestic. None." |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:30 AM |
#24 |
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I'm glad, too |
Zavulon |
Jun-28-07 02:08 PM |
#126 |
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There have been some, not most, posters who have opposed any immigration |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 03:26 PM |
#151 |
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Well, one thing is for sure... |
Zavulon |
Jun-28-07 03:56 PM |
#167 |
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Exactly, this was just to help business and not either citizens or the |
Craftsman |
Jun-28-07 02:10 PM |
#128 |
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Bingo! ... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:35 AM |
#28 |
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thank you |
merh |
Jun-28-07 11:36 AM |
#32 |
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(blush) Thanks, y'all. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 11:57 AM |
#78 |
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Before we can truly address the "immigration" crisis |
merh |
Jun-28-07 12:07 PM |
#91 |
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I'll carry that petition and work for that amendment! |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 12:26 PM |
#103 |
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I'm 100% on-board for such an amendment. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 04:03 PM |
#173 |
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Or how about limiting the lifetime of the corporation and mandating their purpose |
merh |
Jun-28-07 05:00 PM |
#191 |
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As I said, I'm on board ... for all or any part. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 05:39 PM |
#200 |
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Oh, I like that, the "corporate death penalty" |
merh |
Jun-28-07 07:14 PM |
#211 |
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Nothing will happen. Life will go on as usual for everyone. n/t |
yadayadayada |
Jun-28-07 10:56 AM |
#7 |
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It was 20 million people 2 years ago, how did it get to 12 million?? |
Imagevision |
Jun-28-07 10:58 AM |
#8 |
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Native Americans react to Illegal Immigration |
azndndude |
Jun-28-07 11:09 AM |
#9 |
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Indeed. After all ... |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 11:15 AM |
#12 |
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I do love that |
merh |
Jun-28-07 01:11 PM |
#113 |
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Actually... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:14 AM |
#11 |
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Good |
quinnox |
Jun-28-07 11:16 AM |
#13 |
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AMEN n/t |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:19 AM |
#15 |
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For all those who are happy today: what did you win? I'm curious. |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:20 AM |
#16 |
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For one... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:27 AM |
#20 |
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Yeah, right--the old RW talk-radio "enforce the laws" argument-- |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:36 AM |
#31 |
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There seems to be a tendacy in... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 12:03 PM |
#85 |
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How was it a free ride? If we can start documenting/tracking illegals in a |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:23 PM |
#100 |
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a driver's license |
northzax |
Jun-28-07 12:35 PM |
#107 |
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Well, if it's being used for photo ID for a job--isn't that for eligibility? |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:42 PM |
#109 |
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when supplemented with proof of citizenship, yes |
northzax |
Jun-28-07 01:19 PM |
#114 |
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No Problem. I can get all three of those things for you in an day or two. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-28-07 06:28 PM |
#208 |
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which is why there needs to be a database |
northzax |
Jun-28-07 08:00 PM |
#212 |
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I'm on your side, but playing devil's advocate. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-28-07 10:16 PM |
#221 |
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well, that is a problem |
northzax |
Jun-28-07 11:02 PM |
#222 |
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I have no suggestions. I do however have plenty of frustrations. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-28-07 11:57 PM |
#224 |
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(shrug) I don't think the issue is a big deal anyway. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:21 AM |
#18 |
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We have 12-20 million people in this country who are here illegally-- |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:24 AM |
#19 |
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how many children they have? |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 11:29 AM |
#22 |
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You gotta be kidding! |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:32 AM |
#26 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-28-07 11:35 AM |
#29 |
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rofl |
wicket |
Jun-28-07 11:36 AM |
#33 |
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Ever notice how you can read things even if some of the letters are scrambled |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 11:39 AM |
#37 |
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Try to debate the issue. |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:39 AM |
#40 |
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Awwww.... don't cwy!!! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:40 AM |
#43 |
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Interesting debate method |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:56 AM |
#76 |
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Casting asparagus on newer members with low post counts? |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:40 AM |
#44 |
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mmm.... asparagus. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:41 AM |
#46 |
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Agreed. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 11:43 AM |
#50 |
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Disgusting. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 11:40 AM |
#45 |
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Johnny on the Spot |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:41 AM |
#47 |
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Needless to say, mine as well. |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:43 AM |
#51 |
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Ah - thanks! Will keep that in mind in the future! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:42 AM |
#48 |
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Good. We will look forward to reasoned debate in the future |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:47 AM |
#59 |
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There was no hit & run. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:48 AM |
#61 |
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LOL |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:49 AM |
#64 |
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(shrug) I always thought "hit n run" meant "post something inflammatory, and then post nothing more" |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:50 AM |
#65 |
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Also points to those who refuse the real debate and stick to pointless OT attacks |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:52 AM |
#69 |
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Ah - an alternate usage. Thanks! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:54 AM |
#72 |
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Many of the children... |
YvonneCa |
Jun-28-07 11:44 AM |
#54 |
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Yes, all children should be taken care of. But without numbers, how do we budget |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:54 AM |
#73 |
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That's why comprehensive... |
YvonneCa |
Jun-28-07 06:22 PM |
#207 |
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Being born here |
Megahurtz |
Jun-28-07 06:05 PM |
#202 |
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Better reread.. |
YvonneCa |
Jun-28-07 06:21 PM |
#205 |
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The Constitution Has Zilch - Nothing |
Megahurtz |
Jun-28-07 07:07 PM |
#210 |
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It supercedes all... |
YvonneCa |
Jun-28-07 10:04 PM |
#220 |
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"they come here to pop out kids" |
datasuspect |
Jun-29-07 07:43 AM |
#231 |
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Dude, they are talking about Mexicans, not the Irish. Your outdated attitudes toward immigrants |
pampango |
Jun-29-07 08:27 AM |
#242 |
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Currently, being born in the USA makes you a citizen. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 12:08 PM |
#259 |
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illegal immigrants are not the reason we cant afford other things |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 11:48 AM |
#62 |
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When it comes to paying for schools and other services, quite a bit, actually. |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:36 AM |
#30 |
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Exactly... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:29 AM |
#23 |
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it is a problem, those damn irish are taking all the good police jobs |
datasuspect |
Jun-28-07 01:27 PM |
#118 |
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Speaking of the Irish... lots of them were offered citizenship for military service |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 02:34 PM |
#134 |
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Were the Irish exploited here? Of course. The question for the Irish |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 03:53 PM |
#162 |
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Dude. It's Hispanics now, not the Irish. They were last century's |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 03:31 PM |
#153 |
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And despite the "No Irish Need Apply" signs.... |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 04:03 PM |
#172 |
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They pay payroll taxes, which at they salaries, is about all they would be paying... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:34 AM |
#27 |
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"Sure" they do...n/t |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:38 AM |
#34 |
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Enjoy your visit! May I suggest the DU Top Ten list? It's a vacationer's favorite! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:39 AM |
#38 |
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Why is some ones post count so... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:50 AM |
#66 |
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I agree--you and I don't see eye to eye on this, but I support your right |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:52 AM |
#68 |
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Exactly... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:57 AM |
#77 |
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I agree with ya greyghost. |
Megahurtz |
Jun-28-07 06:11 PM |
#203 |
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There's no issue to debate. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:52 AM |
#70 |
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Den, why'd ya bring it up in the first place |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:55 AM |
#74 |
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Um, I didn't. I initially said there wasn't a significant problem. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:59 AM |
#81 |
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Reply 29. "Hi newly-joined, low post count, concerned person!" |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 12:05 PM |
#87 |
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And they pay sales tax. Which can be pretty high... |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 12:22 PM |
#97 |
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So do TOURISTS. So fucking what? |
TahitiNut |
Jun-28-07 05:26 PM |
#198 |
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It's one answer to "they don't pay taxes".... |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 07:40 AM |
#229 |
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I'm FOR the bill. I'm FOR fixing at least some aspects of this situation. |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:40 AM |
#41 |
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Making assumptions that someone who is not fond of illegal immigration |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 11:44 AM |
#53 |
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Well said. n/t |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 11:47 AM |
#58 |
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damn reverse-racists!!! lolol! Well SCOTUS is on your side - gutting Brown v Board! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:47 AM |
#60 |
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Bloo is my Hero and he's right... |
Madspirit |
Jun-28-07 04:03 PM |
#171 |
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Go back on vacation! We got things under control here! |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 04:09 PM |
#176 |
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I just stopped in to k&r Good and Worthy Things |
Madspirit |
Jun-28-07 04:14 PM |
#178 |
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not really, we always have had a large # of illegals here |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 11:38 AM |
#35 |
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They are paying taxes |
dmesg |
Jun-28-07 11:38 AM |
#36 |
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everytime they buy something they are paying taxes |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 11:40 AM |
#42 |
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Property taxes--which is what funds the schools their children attend? |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 11:44 AM |
#52 |
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Sigh. If the laborer is paid under the table... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 11:56 AM |
#75 |
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Do you have any sort of proof of the kind of taxes that illegals pay? |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:08 PM |
#92 |
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someone owns the home they live in, right? |
northzax |
Jun-28-07 08:25 PM |
#213 |
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Obviously they pay property taxes if they own property |
dmesg |
Jun-28-07 12:06 PM |
#90 |
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Well, if twenty of them are living in one house, instead of their own homes, |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:14 PM |
#93 |
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Then the towns need to assess those buildings at a higher rate |
dmesg |
Jun-28-07 01:28 PM |
#119 |
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Illegals don't get welfare or benefits, and they pay all kinds of taxes. |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 11:53 AM |
#71 |
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I think it's highly disputable how much taxes (and what kind) they pay-- |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:00 PM |
#83 |
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If the bill had succeeded they would still get shit pay, AND be eligible for benefits! |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 12:06 PM |
#89 |
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Yeah, Bush wanted this bill to pass. So did Obama--I think he has good intentions, don't you? |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:36 PM |
#108 |
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Suffice it to say... |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 01:33 PM |
#123 |
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What about "legals"? Does their presence depress wages for |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 03:55 PM |
#166 |
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"Legals" are much more likely and able to complain to authorities when paid a subminimum wage. |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 08:27 PM |
#214 |
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So if we made the "illegals" legal, that would be a good thing? |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 08:31 PM |
#216 |
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I don't think so. We've had 2 huge amnesties, and they did nothing to stem the tide |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 08:47 PM |
#218 |
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"how many diseases they carry" |
datasuspect |
Jun-28-07 01:25 PM |
#117 |
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Wow--if you don't believe that people from poverty-stricken foreign nations |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 02:11 PM |
#129 |
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It never is. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 02:37 PM |
#135 |
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of course its not |
datasuspect |
Jun-28-07 02:39 PM |
#137 |
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i'm really naive then |
datasuspect |
Jun-28-07 02:38 PM |
#136 |
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what, like leprosy? |
northzax |
Jun-28-07 08:30 PM |
#215 |
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Isn't it standard for immigrants and travelers to get medical exams |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 09:51 PM |
#219 |
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travelers? not really |
northzax |
Jun-28-07 11:15 PM |
#223 |
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I'm not sure why you're making an issue of this. Yes, disease is a standard |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-29-07 08:18 AM |
#241 |
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I dont care |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 11:39 AM |
#39 |
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It was a great distraction from Iraq. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 12:18 PM |
#95 |
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Well, I'm happy |
nonconformist |
Jun-28-07 11:42 AM |
#49 |
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But it wasn't a great bill, it deserved to die on the floor |
cgrindley |
Jun-28-07 11:46 AM |
#55 |
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So, I guess that makes me truly evil... |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 11:46 AM |
#56 |
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no you're not evil at all |
pitohui |
Jun-28-07 12:04 PM |
#86 |
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"Scabs" take the jobs of Union workers out on strike. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 12:29 PM |
#104 |
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I'm aware of what a scab is. |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 01:21 PM |
#115 |
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Yes, I "get it." |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 02:41 PM |
#139 |
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I don't know Cornyn & Hutchinson's reason for their vote... |
Matsubara |
Jun-28-07 08:44 PM |
#217 |
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It was a win/win situation for Cornyn & Hutchison. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 07:36 AM |
#228 |
| -
My Problem |
erpowers |
Jun-28-07 11:57 AM |
#80 |
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In all honesty, if the bill had passed do you think it would have turned |
Vinca |
Jun-28-07 12:03 PM |
#84 |
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That's the system that's been... |
greyghost |
Jun-28-07 12:06 PM |
#88 |
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Absolutely! |
Throd |
Jun-28-07 12:21 PM |
#96 |
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Didn't this bill provide more money for border security--like 4.4 billion? |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:26 PM |
#102 |
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The wording of the bill |
Jim Warren |
Jun-28-07 12:34 PM |
#106 |
| -
I agree that border security is a must. |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-28-07 12:45 PM |
#111 |
| -
Wasn't this Bush's bill? |
WinkyDink |
Jun-28-07 12:22 PM |
#98 |
| -
Big Time! |
Jim Warren |
Jun-28-07 12:25 PM |
#101 |
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I think Kennedy would want some credit, too, n/t |
pampango |
Jun-28-07 12:33 PM |
#105 |
| -
How about a real Illegal alien bill for a change? |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 01:11 PM |
#112 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-28-07 01:25 PM |
#116 |
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Elitist response |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 01:32 PM |
#121 |
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What is the deal with criticism of post counts and/or time here when someone disagrees? |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 01:32 PM |
#122 |
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Only time I've ever pointed it out. That was their first post |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 01:34 PM |
#125 |
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Perhaps I was not clear enough |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 02:08 PM |
#127 |
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Yea Good Post! |
Megahurtz |
Jun-28-07 06:20 PM |
#204 |
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Only time you have used it here. But it has been used up-thread by others |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 02:18 PM |
#130 |
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allies? Someone who wants EMT's to make sure one is 'Merican before treating their heart attack? |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 02:21 PM |
#132 |
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If ya don't like someone's opinion, you might consider trying to change it |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 02:24 PM |
#133 |
| -
lol! Someone said that? I'm with you - I'll pass on that sort of "ally". |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-28-07 02:40 PM |
#138 |
| -
Good point... Kinda... |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:08 PM |
#145 |
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It's a reflex response to idiotic posts. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 02:55 PM |
#142 |
| -
Please dissect |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:05 PM |
#144 |
| -
I'd rather point & laugh. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 03:16 PM |
#147 |
| -
Ok then |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:45 PM |
#159 |
| -
Hang in there, blackbartroberts |
havocmom |
Jun-28-07 03:41 PM |
#157 |
| -
Thanks |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:52 PM |
#187 |
| -
Wow. Unreal. |
LostinVA |
Jun-28-07 01:30 PM |
#120 |
| -
Please elaborate |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 01:33 PM |
#124 |
| -
Why not throw some "illegal employers" into jail? |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 02:50 PM |
#141 |
| -
I would support jailing the illegal employers |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:02 PM |
#143 |
| -
Leave the Constitution alone. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 03:16 PM |
#146 |
| -
An originalist? |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:20 PM |
#148 |
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If they were born here, they are not aliens. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 03:24 PM |
#149 |
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Debatable |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:34 PM |
#154 |
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Todays hottest topic is Cheney |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 03:41 PM |
#158 |
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No radio here today. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:02 PM |
#170 |
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and we all know about the left wing media |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 04:07 PM |
#175 |
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Glad you amuse yourself. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:40 PM |
#183 |
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Which Right Wing Radio shows do you recommend? |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 07:04 AM |
#225 |
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Crane Durham |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 07:43 AM |
#230 |
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I found Crane Durham's website..... |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 09:54 AM |
#254 |
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It seems as though you're already well acquainted with the conservative websites. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 03:59 PM |
#169 |
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Never said I haven't looked at other sites. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:20 PM |
#179 |
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ok, then lets start this program in IRAQ |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 03:25 PM |
#150 |
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??? |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:36 PM |
#155 |
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well, your tax dollars are paying for Iraqi schools, healthcare, etc |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 03:40 PM |
#156 |
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Oh. I agree with some of what you say. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 03:51 PM |
#160 |
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well my numbers say $438 billion so far, what do you have? |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 03:52 PM |
#161 |
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At an average of 22K per alien per year |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:07 PM |
#174 |
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$22k per illegal immigrant??????????????? |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 04:11 PM |
#177 |
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You are right. Sorry for not citing a source. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:30 PM |
#181 |
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he assumes they will be low skilled workers their whole life |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 04:42 PM |
#184 |
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Plenty of American kids that could use the money for education |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:57 PM |
#189 |
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or we can not have illegal wars and pay for all of it |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 04:59 PM |
#190 |
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No war bill means big attacks at home. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 05:25 PM |
#197 |
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So--we're fighting them over there so we won't need to fight them over here! |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 07:07 AM |
#226 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-29-07 08:01 AM |
#235 |
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Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 09:44 AM |
#253 |
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his numbers are flawed |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 04:50 PM |
#186 |
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I am aware of the difference in Social Security and Income tax |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 05:04 PM |
#192 |
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my assumptions on my Social Security Report I get once a year? |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 05:13 PM |
#194 |
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Wow, different reports? |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 05:27 PM |
#199 |
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I didnt know SSA distributes anything to illegal aliens |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 05:43 PM |
#201 |
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Neither did I |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 08:16 AM |
#240 |
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Here's what those Liberals at the Wall Street Journal had to say |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 07:29 AM |
#227 |
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Sounds like he said he said to me |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 08:37 AM |
#244 |
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Which experts told you about the population bomb? |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 09:38 AM |
#252 |
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Paul Ehrlich for one... |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 10:02 AM |
#256 |
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ZPG is now "Population Connection: Education & Action For a Better World" |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-29-07 12:14 PM |
#260 |
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Do you even read what I write or do you just make it up in your head? |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 01:37 PM |
#263 |
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LSK means that we're wasting resources (human & financial) in Iraq. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-28-07 03:54 PM |
#164 |
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Oh, now, the poster has alreay said they don't want to talk about Iraq, wants to stay focused on |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 04:21 PM |
#180 |
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I'll talk about iraq if you can't make an immigration argument. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:32 PM |
#182 |
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Don't think Iraq is more expensive than illegal aliens |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 04:50 PM |
#185 |
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The US Constitution states all treaties are the law of the land |
LSK |
Jun-28-07 04:56 PM |
#188 |
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As long as the fight is over there. |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 05:16 PM |
#195 |
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It weakens Bush so it is fine |
peaches2003 |
Jun-28-07 02:20 PM |
#131 |
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I disagree with you. That bill was unworkable! |
napi21 |
Jun-28-07 02:47 PM |
#140 |
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As for the 30,000 border guards |
Aya Reiko |
Jun-28-07 05:12 PM |
#193 |
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I would say wait until another time |
mmonk |
Jun-28-07 03:27 PM |
#152 |
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It's for the best |
Raine |
Jun-28-07 03:57 PM |
#168 |
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Interesting Theory |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-28-07 05:21 PM |
#196 |
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Could be the Oil Industry in the US is tired of paying decent wages too |
havocmom |
Jun-29-07 07:53 AM |
#234 |
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Nationalized in Mexico |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 08:04 AM |
#237 |
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Yep |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 08:07 AM |
#238 |
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Yes it is. |
Jim Warren |
Jun-29-07 08:09 AM |
#239 |
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What kind of living do oil workers earn |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 08:52 AM |
#247 |
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some current background |
Jim Warren |
Jun-29-07 09:21 AM |
#251 |
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Here's one |
Jim Warren |
Jun-29-07 08:03 AM |
#236 |
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You mean the 'cheap labor for corporate globalist union-hating elites' disguised as 'immigration'? |
RadiDem |
Jun-28-07 06:22 PM |
#206 |
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Ever try calling them human beings instead of an object to blame? |
RGBolen |
Jun-28-07 06:32 PM |
#209 |
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Human beings, but also criminals |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 07:49 AM |
#233 |
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bull....they aren't criminals...they are poor folks looking to feed themselves and their families |
bleedingheart |
Jun-29-07 08:37 AM |
#245 |
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We have something in common |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 08:46 AM |
#246 |
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Do you feel the same way about the American poor? |
pampango |
Jun-29-07 08:52 AM |
#248 |
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Yes |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 09:01 AM |
#249 |
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The "crime" of the illegal workers is working at a job. |
pampango |
Jun-29-07 09:57 AM |
#255 |
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My selfish family reasons |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 11:32 AM |
#257 |
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While I sometimes pursue my interests for selfish reasons, |
pampango |
Jun-29-07 11:53 AM |
#258 |
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Not socially acceptable |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 01:00 PM |
#262 |
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I used the term "socially acceptable" to refer to the nature of the jobs |
pampango |
Jun-29-07 01:40 PM |
#264 |
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I don't think the work is socially or economically useful |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 02:33 PM |
#265 |
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I don't think that Illegal aliens are causing economic harm to Americans, |
pampango |
Jun-29-07 02:54 PM |
#266 |
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Thank you pampango |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 03:52 PM |
#267 |
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Thanks to you too, blackbartroberts. |
pampango |
Jun-29-07 04:29 PM |
#268 |
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human beings used as cheap labor...seems like a fair statement |
bleedingheart |
Jun-29-07 08:33 AM |
#243 |
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All about cheap/slave labor |
blackbartroberts |
Jun-29-07 09:08 AM |
#250 |
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