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114. Typical Hillary Thread
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 07:27 AM by Ian_rd
1. Original post criticizing some of Hillary Clinton's positions.
2. Responses from Hillary supporters defending her repeated cooperation in increasing Bush's power beyond the law and funding the war.
3. Hillary supporters allude that the OP is a fringe-leftist (because they oppose the war? *shrug*) or that they hate women.

Hillary is a corporate-funded weather vane. Not to mention, she could never be elected - she'd use the same tired "triangulation" crap to lose the election like so many before her when it only worked for her husband because Ross Perot sucked votes from Bush and Dole. And if by some miracle she actually won and only served one term, we would have gone 24 YEARS in this country with the Executive Branch headed by the same two wealthy families. We could be the first democracy in history to VOTE FOR A MONARCHY.
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  -Sen. Mike Gravel: "Why Hillary Scares Me" Wetzelbill  Jun-25-07 11:32 AM   #0 
  - He scares me.  DURHAM D   Jun-25-07 11:34 AM   #1 
  - Which part of this reminds you of Raygun Ronnie?  LibFromWV   Jun-25-07 11:38 AM   #5 
  - Heres what reminds me of Reagan.  DURHAM D   Jun-25-07 11:54 AM   #15 
     - Do you have a link? Or perhaps your memory is as faulty as Reagan's  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 12:22 PM   #34 
     - It was on tv during a presidential debate.  DURHAM D   Jun-25-07 12:28 PM   #39 
        - She wasn't one of the ones voting against it, if that's what you mean. Lots of  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 01:24 PM   #54 
        - If you're not scared of a Hillary presidency, you're the idiot.  northofdenali   Jun-25-07 04:29 PM   #81 
        - No she wasn't but she is asking us to vote for her for President and in  freefall   Jun-25-07 04:53 PM   #85 
     - Not a Gravel supporter but i just  LibFromWV   Jun-25-07 12:31 PM   #41 
     - Well then maybe simplicity sells.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-25-07 04:08 PM   #76 
        - right and wrong are not complex issues  bedpanartist   Jun-25-07 07:14 PM   #96 
  - because you believe Reagan would have opposed the Patriot Act?  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 12:18 PM   #33 
  - LOL  proud2Blib   Jun-25-07 05:52 PM   #92 
  - Gravel is the man who got the Pentagon Papers published for Watergate.  intheflow   Jun-25-07 01:06 PM   #48 
  - Nice smackdown, Mr. Gravel! nt  babylonsister   Jun-25-07 11:35 AM   #2 
  - Yawn...let him go back to throwing rocks into ponds  ISUGRADIA   Jun-25-07 11:44 AM   #8 
     - You can yawn; I'm easily amused.  babylonsister   Jun-25-07 11:47 AM   #12 
  - Nothing to disagree with there.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-25-07 11:36 AM   #3 
  - Gravel is easily scared. NT  NYCGirl   Jun-25-07 11:37 AM   #4 
  - Yeah, why would anyone be scared of losing their rights? Hillary voted for the Patriot Act,  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 12:24 PM   #37 
     - So did Edwards. And Obama voted for it's renewal.  wyldwolf   Jun-25-07 12:41 PM   #44 
        - True. Three good reasons to support Kucinich and hope Gore enters the race.  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 12:46 PM   #45 
        - Amen... why are so many ready to settle for less?  redqueen   Jun-25-07 04:13 PM   #77 
        - I'm not sure. I think it's been so long that many people have forgotten what a real Democrat stands  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 05:02 PM   #86 
        - Exactly do we want a Democrat for President or  pokercat999   Jun-25-07 05:08 PM   #87 
        - Agreed....  Robeson   Jun-25-07 10:06 PM   #106 
        - My neighbor just drove his car over a cliff...  fooj   Jun-25-07 03:54 PM   #73 
  - she doesn't scare me Mike as much as  leftchick   Jun-25-07 11:40 AM   #6 
  - she's not alone on that  GreenArrow   Jun-25-07 11:55 AM   #17 
  - "When I am president ..."  Pigwidgeon   Jun-25-07 11:41 AM   #7 
  - My response also - Mike will always be a hero - but now he sounds like Nader with half  papau   Jun-25-07 07:51 PM   #98 
  - Typical red meat being tossed at the Huffington/Koss crowd  wyldwolf   Jun-25-07 11:44 AM   #9 
  - read up on Mike. He has balls and he steps up to do what he  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 11:47 AM   #11 
  - Already done so. In fact, I was one the first DUers talking about Gravel  wyldwolf   Jun-25-07 11:55 AM   #18 
  - He doesn't have balls.  DURHAM D   Jun-25-07 11:57 AM   #19 
     - Yeah, ok.  slick8790   Jun-25-07 12:17 PM   #32 
     - I am not a Hillary supporter - but he is a fool.  DURHAM D   Jun-25-07 12:24 PM   #36 
     - but don't you think that's his intention?  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 01:01 PM   #47 
     - I suppose people have become used to homogenized candidates,  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 01:30 PM   #56 
     - Right on, RV...  Blue_In_AK   Jun-25-07 10:04 PM   #105 
     - And he's a fool why?  slick8790   Jun-25-07 01:45 PM   #66 
     - It's not the rocks - it's the ripples  DKRC   Jun-25-07 10:01 PM   #104 
     - Rock throwing?  WileEcoyote   Jun-26-07 11:38 AM   #132 
     - good post  catgirl   Jun-25-07 12:34 PM   #42 
     - What Gravel did in the 1970s (which was great) doesn't mean  NoPasaran   Jun-25-07 12:39 PM   #43 
     - What makes him a wacko?  slick8790   Jun-25-07 01:48 PM   #67 
        - I like Gravel, but I don't like his flat tax idea. He's willing to tell you what's on his mind  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 03:05 PM   #70 
        - His nutty ideas, like the "fair tax" and I & R  NoPasaran   Jun-25-07 03:25 PM   #71 
           - Are you serious?  jilln   Jun-25-07 05:25 PM   #89 
     - He has. I am not the sort of person who is so for a candidate that  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 01:26 PM   #55 
     - Thank you, God, for explaining Mike to me. I'm from Alaska and I  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 01:42 PM   #64 
     - His brain matter is, obviously, more dense than yours. n/t  northofdenali   Jun-25-07 04:30 PM   #82 
  - well, Obama never voted for it the first time, he wasn't in the Senate  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 12:03 PM   #23 
  - He voted for the renewal of it and has voted the same way as Hillary since he got to the senate.  wyldwolf   Jun-25-07 12:12 PM   #28 
     - yeah he has similar problems  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 12:23 PM   #35 
     - You said it. I didn't.  fooj   Jun-25-07 07:11 PM   #95 
  - One Person  557188   Jun-25-07 12:12 PM   #29 
  - uh, so? You're saying because he did something great once upon a time...  wyldwolf   Jun-25-07 12:14 PM   #30 
     - one man's disengenuous shit is another man's truth. unless we all  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 01:33 PM   #58 
     - LOL.  ellisonz   Jun-25-07 04:19 PM   #79 
     - Disingenuous:  NCevilDUer   Jun-26-07 11:49 AM   #133 
  - "Clinton is but one vote." ONE SCARY, DEAD WRONG VOTE  welshTerrier2   Jun-25-07 04:53 PM   #84 
  - Hell YES I'm scared of Obama. And Edwards.  northofdenali   Jun-25-07 05:32 PM   #90 
  - and that is the short version  G_j   Jun-25-07 10:35 PM   #111 
  - Exactly  Heywoodj   Jun-26-07 10:03 AM   #125 
  - We need more Mike Gravels  malaise   Jun-25-07 11:47 AM   #10 
  - telling the truth is one thing,  GreenArrow   Jun-25-07 01:15 PM   #50 
  - He is absolutely right. He nails Clinton for her hollowness;  Emillereid   Jun-25-07 11:52 AM   #13 
  - its one thing to disagree with her  qazplm   Jun-25-07 12:05 PM   #24 
     - She's probably cried 750,000 plus times and that's just for the dead innocents.  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 10:14 PM   #108 
  - President Romney.  onehandle   Jun-25-07 11:52 AM   #14 
  - Get Hillary is the nominee and you can pretty much guarantee that result...  truebrit71   Jun-25-07 11:54 AM   #16 
  - The sky is falling. The sky is falling. They sky is falling. n/t  DURHAM D   Jun-25-07 11:59 AM   #21 
  - Nope.  mmonk   Jun-25-07 12:08 PM   #26 
  - Naaah. All the far left crackpots are making her look  durrrty libby   Jun-25-07 11:59 AM   #22 
  - only in America can  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 12:10 PM   #27 
  - See, it's that "warmonger " meme " that gives the fringe loony left  durrrty libby   Jun-25-07 12:30 PM   #40 
     - most people don't support the war  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 12:56 PM   #46 
     - Since, you already inferred that she lied us into war,everything  durrrty libby   Jun-25-07 01:09 PM   #49 
        - you have no substance  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 01:16 PM   #51 
        - That's right. You are a legend in your own mind  durrrty libby   Jun-25-07 01:53 PM   #68 
        - that's fine. don't be interested. but the discourse on this thread is  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 01:35 PM   #61 
     - name one candidate running that backs gay marriage and ending  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 01:34 PM   #60 
     - Dennis Kucinich n/t  eridani   Jun-25-07 09:30 PM   #102 
        - That's who I was thinking also. Oh yeah, and single payer universal healthcare,  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 10:35 PM   #110 
     - Lying us into a war? It was just a big mistake. Just a big mistake, that's all.  John Q. Citizen   Jun-25-07 10:18 PM   #109 
     - "Most people"  Heywoodj   Jun-26-07 10:09 AM   #126 
  - spot on  paulk   Jun-26-07 09:57 AM   #124 
  - "The woman is POISON."  avrdream   Jun-25-07 09:07 PM   #101 
  - Oh lord, don't say things like that  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 12:07 PM   #25 
  - All the more reason not to support Hillary Clinton in the primaries.  Marr   Jun-26-07 09:01 AM   #121 
  - Bam!! Nice.  fazoolius_2006   Jun-25-07 11:58 AM   #20 
  - He tells it like it is n.t  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-25-07 12:16 PM   #31 
  - Double Bam! n/t  truedelphi   Jun-25-07 12:25 PM   #38 
  - Bam, Bam, Bam  IChing   Jun-25-07 01:33 PM   #59 
     - I see your bams and raise you a Zingggg! n/t  rucky   Jun-25-07 04:17 PM   # 
  - Kudos to Mike Gravel's ghost writer.  Bucky   Jun-25-07 01:18 PM   #52 
  - it was the throwing the rock in the water thing right?  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 01:22 PM   #53 
     - Man, I still got two holes burned in my forehead from watching that video  Bucky   Jun-25-07 01:32 PM   #57 
     - haha  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 01:39 PM   #63 
     - ha! I loved that. Do you understand that one person making a  roguevalley   Jun-25-07 01:36 PM   #62 
        - yeah it was interesting  Wetzelbill   Jun-25-07 01:43 PM   #65 
        - I got it immediately  leftchick   Jun-25-07 04:17 PM   #78 
  - To the person who said Gravel simplifies everything...  GeneCosta   Jun-25-07 03:02 PM   #69 
  - I mean what is wrong with SIMPLE?? It's the complex  truedelphi   Jun-25-07 03:57 PM   #74 
  - He's not progressive on taxes  hfojvt   Jun-25-07 05:58 PM   #94 
  - gravel didn't pick a celene dion song for his campaign theme  GreatCaesarsGhost   Jun-25-07 03:44 PM   #72 
  - "Sen. Gravel has done more for this country than hillary  Disturbed   Jun-25-07 04:08 PM   #75 
  - ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!  Clark2008   Jun-25-07 07:53 PM   #99 
  - He is pretty nutty but I agree with him here.  proud2Blib   Jun-25-07 04:22 PM   #80 
  - He was just as nutty as a Senator from Alaska could be!  northofdenali   Jun-25-07 04:33 PM   #83 
     - Have you seen any of his youtube videos?  proud2Blib   Jun-25-07 05:22 PM   #88 
     - He so knows he's not a viable candidate -  northofdenali   Jun-25-07 05:33 PM   #91 
     - Yes, we're all crazy...  Blue_In_AK   Jun-25-07 10:10 PM   #107 
        - Wasn't he the MAX?  northofdenali   Jun-25-07 11:13 PM   #112 
           - I love the guy...  Blue_In_AK   Jun-25-07 11:54 PM   #113 
  - Only those who can't win are allowed to speak the truth. -- John Stewart (crossfire interview)  SergeyDovlatov   Jun-25-07 05:57 PM   #93 
  - Gravel is a beer short of a six pack.  johncoby2   Jun-25-07 07:26 PM   #97 
  - a frenchfrie short of a happy meal?  wyldwolf   Jun-25-07 08:22 PM   #100 
  - This will inspire my husband to send him more $.  mod mom   Jun-25-07 09:50 PM   #103 
  - So he's the one who's been contributing to Gravel's campaign.  NYCGirl   Jun-26-07 11:12 AM   #129 
  - Typical Hillary Thread  Ian_rd   Jun-26-07 07:19 AM   #114 
  - k&r-don't know if he'd make a good president-  JennasLiver   Jun-26-07 07:49 AM   #115 
  - I'm starting to find it's the HRC SUPPORTERS...  iamahaingttta   Jun-26-07 07:59 AM   #116 
  - Thanks, Mr. Gravel. You speak the truth.  hippiechick   Jun-26-07 08:04 AM   #117 
  - A most excellent observation.  lonestarnot   Jun-26-07 08:07 AM   #118 
  - I am just sick of the Bush-Clinton kingdom..............  BlueJac   Jun-26-07 08:31 AM   #119 
  - Bill Clinton did what Bush is doing?  niceypoo   Jun-26-07 11:33 AM   #130 
  - Not to mention the fact that she has Rupert Murdock in her corner  softwarevotingtrail   Jun-26-07 08:50 AM   #120 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-26-07 09:03 AM   #122 
  - True, but she scares me less than more war-like Dem candidates (IWR sponsors)  The Count   Jun-26-07 09:48 AM   #123 
  - Why talk about attacking Iran?  softwarevotingtrail   Jun-26-07 10:28 AM   #127 
  - Honestly?  slick8790   Jun-26-07 10:58 AM   #128 
     - Why can you trust him? because he apologized for IWR then started threatening Iran?  The Count   Jun-26-07 10:00 PM   #136 
  - Hatred of Hillary is the one thing that unites Dems and FReepers  ComerPerro   Jun-26-07 11:34 AM   #131 
  - Exactly.  slick8790   Jun-26-07 03:12 PM   #135 
  - What should really scare liberals...  politicalhumor   Jun-26-07 11:52 AM   #134 

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