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Fri Jun-22-07 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 23. "Party stalwarts like me trying to intimidate you?" What the FUCK are you smoking? |
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Do you have ANY IDEA who you're talking to?
Redstone
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| -Let's Put This Whole Voting Green/Indy/Not Gonna Vote Thing To Rest, Shall We? Use Logic. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 08:30 PM |
#0 |
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you missed the third fundamental thing: |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 08:34 PM |
#1 |
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That's called "Naderism"--worked well in 2000, didn't it? |
elocs |
Jun-22-07 08:39 PM |
#6 |
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I'm not saying that I agree, |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 08:42 PM |
#10 |
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Nominations to the Supreme Court alone would be worth the difference |
elocs |
Jun-22-07 08:52 PM |
#17 |
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Would that Gore Supreme Court be full of liberals |
Truth2Tell |
Jun-23-07 11:29 AM |
#95 |
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I'm sorry you are so easily confused and have to go back over 60 years |
elocs |
Jun-23-07 11:48 AM |
#100 |
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I just don't have much faith |
Truth2Tell |
Jun-23-07 12:32 PM |
#106 |
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Hmm some history might help |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jun-23-07 12:44 PM |
#108 |
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The Court didn't have a say on |
Truth2Tell |
Jun-23-07 03:07 PM |
#123 |
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The big lie which you sort of repeat is that Nader said there was no difference between Bush* and Go |
Toots |
Jun-23-07 11:50 AM |
#102 |
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Semantic hair splitting does not a big lie make. |
elocs |
Jun-23-07 11:56 AM |
#105 |
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I also saw 500,000 Iraqi children killed under a Democratic president. |
bvar22 |
Jun-23-07 03:12 PM |
#125 |
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You agree with this? |
Kajsa |
Jun-24-07 01:06 PM |
#152 |
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I'd rather live through 30 years of republican presidents |
markk |
Jun-22-07 10:30 PM |
#51 |
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I'd love to see your post written in English. |
Veganistan |
Jun-22-07 10:38 PM |
#54 |
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Nice. Classy. |
Truth2Tell |
Jun-23-07 11:37 AM |
#97 |
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A mean, rude Vegan? |
Kajsa |
Jun-24-07 01:09 PM |
#153 |
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yep. nt |
HardRocker05 |
Jun-22-07 11:56 PM |
#71 |
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You're talking about the rest of my life and well into my grandchild's adulthood. Screw that. |
Hekate |
Jun-23-07 12:09 AM |
#74 |
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We had to destroy the village....I mean country, in order to save the country. |
MilesColtrane |
Jun-25-07 12:06 PM |
#170 |
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Regardless of which Democratic candidate we have, it's better than what we have now |
BushOut06 |
Jun-22-07 08:40 PM |
#7 |
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Yes, indeed. I'd be happy to have ANY of the Dem canditates for President. |
Redstone |
Jun-22-07 09:18 PM |
#27 |
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that's the roadblock I'm running into... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-22-07 08:40 PM |
#8 |
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because they fear that appealing to the majority of those who don't bother |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 08:44 PM |
#11 |
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crazy... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-22-07 08:48 PM |
#14 |
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I Missed Nothing. That Was Number Two. I'm A Bit Surprised You Overlooked It. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 08:42 PM |
#9 |
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nope. allow me to quote you. |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 08:46 PM |
#12 |
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It's Absolutely The Same Difference. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 09:01 PM |
#21 |
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nope, sorry again. |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 09:21 PM |
#29 |
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I'm Not Sure You're Seeing The Bigger Picture That I'm Referencing. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 10:37 PM |
#53 |
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what you're missing is that, whether I'm at the mall or at the lake, |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 11:03 PM |
#58 |
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You're Not Quite Seeing What I'm Saying Here. Once You're Where You're At, It Is No Longer Really |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 11:17 PM |
#59 |
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"Once You're Where You're At, It Is No Longer Really relevant as to what got you there." wrong |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 11:25 PM |
#63 |
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Can You Explain How? Just Because You Say So Doesn't Make It True. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 11:33 PM |
#64 |
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easy - someone kicks you in the balls. who did it matters. |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 11:38 PM |
#66 |
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We've Gone Through This Already. You Haven't Supplied Anything New. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 11:56 PM |
#70 |
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I don't accept the bee. |
Truth2Tell |
Jun-23-07 11:55 AM |
#104 |
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the "wisdom" of choosing the lesser pain |
ulysses |
Jun-23-07 04:49 PM |
#141 |
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What Is The Point You're Trying To Make? It Wasn't Made Accurately. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 05:16 PM |
#147 |
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that's the mistake these DLC enablers are making. It does matter "how you got there" to voters. |
bettyellen |
Jun-23-07 01:41 PM |
#113 |
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well put. |
ulysses |
Jun-23-07 09:14 PM |
#148 |
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That's the #2. No need for a third there. |
Festivito |
Jun-22-07 08:53 PM |
#18 |
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yeah, we've been here before. |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 10:09 PM |
#43 |
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They're Not My Points. They're Inherent Logical Realities That I Merely Recognize. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 10:13 PM |
#45 |
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yeah, whatever. |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 11:19 PM |
#62 |
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'Yeah Whatever' Is Not An Answer Nor An Argument. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 11:36 PM |
#65 |
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I deny your assertion of "inherent logical realities". |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 11:45 PM |
#68 |
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Some People Deny Evolution. Denial Without Supporting Logical Refutation Is Inconsequential. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 12:02 AM |
#72 |
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"They're Inherent Logical Realities" |
Forkboy |
Jun-23-07 01:26 AM |
#78 |
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beware, my friend. |
ulysses |
Jun-23-07 04:34 PM |
#136 |
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Well they'll probably have better luck than I have in defining it. |
Forkboy |
Jun-23-07 04:36 PM |
#138 |
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reality based community. discuss. |
ulysses |
Jun-23-07 04:39 PM |
#140 |
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LOL |
Forkboy |
Jun-23-07 04:52 PM |
#142 |
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i am gonna snuggle in here, thanks. |
buddhamama |
Jun-25-07 11:07 AM |
#166 |
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the familiar scenery reminded me... |
buddhamama |
Jun-25-07 11:40 AM |
#169 |
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thanks, buddhamama! |
ulysses |
Jun-25-07 01:26 PM |
#178 |
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Then they are either stupid or manipulating you. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-23-07 10:17 AM |
#86 |
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Go out and do that, then. Go get some of the non-voters to vote for the D |
kenzee13 |
Jun-23-07 11:46 AM |
#98 |
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True that, Whether the architect of evil or the one who rolls over to it, does it matter? |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jun-23-07 11:27 AM |
#93 |
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Thank you my friend for explaining this with simple logic |
MadMaddie |
Jun-22-07 08:35 PM |
#2 |
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We only control one vote: our own. |
Warpy |
Jun-22-07 08:38 PM |
#3 |
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Day-um, I hate it when I agree with you |
havocmom |
Jun-22-07 08:38 PM |
#4 |
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It's unfortunate that that's the way it is, but that's the way it is. |
Redstone |
Jun-22-07 08:38 PM |
#5 |
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Since the Democratic Party has decided to largely ignore my interests in |
nosmokes |
Jun-22-07 08:54 PM |
#19 |
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"Party stalwarts like me trying to intimidate you?" What the FUCK are you smoking? |
Redstone |
Jun-22-07 09:03 PM |
#23 |
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look, I know that the implication that if I don't vote Democratic is the same |
nosmokes |
Jun-22-07 09:21 PM |
#28 |
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You're reading WAY too much into a post that never accused you of anything. |
Redstone |
Jun-22-07 09:26 PM |
#33 |
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It's Not Intimidation; It's Simple Reality. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 09:50 PM |
#36 |
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But there are other says to voice your disapproval with what Dems are doing beside your vote!!! |
Perky |
Jun-23-07 08:55 AM |
#82 |
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looks like you need a vote! |
Jeffersons Ghost |
Jun-22-07 08:47 PM |
#13 |
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Here's some logic: |
rucky |
Jun-22-07 08:50 PM |
#15 |
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All 3 of those things also apply toward Democrats in the middle |
elocs |
Jun-22-07 08:58 PM |
#20 |
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I'm with you, but this was more of a strategy message. |
rucky |
Jun-23-07 08:36 AM |
#81 |
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If people who ordinarily vote Democratic choose to vote for a 3rd party, |
elocs |
Jun-23-07 11:52 AM |
#103 |
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If people who wanted to avoid this situation |
LWolf |
Jun-23-07 04:35 PM |
#137 |
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bullshit |
557188 |
Jun-25-07 12:20 PM |
#175 |
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Sorry I do not vote for Repugs and if Hillary is the Dems choice I will not |
wakeme2008 |
Jun-22-07 08:50 PM |
#16 |
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So You're Saying You Want The Republican Party Candidate To Win Then? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 09:08 PM |
#25 |
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no. |
ulysses |
Jun-22-07 09:22 PM |
#30 |
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I trust anything coming out of Hillary's mouth the same as Bush |
wakeme2008 |
Jun-22-07 09:54 PM |
#39 |
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Have You Ever Checked Her Record? Check Again And You'll See How Wrong You Are. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 10:09 PM |
#42 |
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She supports the killing in Iraq and has told Israeli groups Bombing Iran is on the Table. |
wakeme2008 |
Jun-23-07 03:49 AM |
#80 |
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now we have reached the crux of it. |
tomp |
Jun-23-07 10:12 AM |
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Logical? UnAmerican. |
earthside |
Jun-22-07 09:02 PM |
#22 |
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Gee I am sure glad we put that to rest. |
MuseRider |
Jun-22-07 09:06 PM |
#24 |
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Is There A Part You Disagreed With? I'd Like To Hear Your Reasoning. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 09:51 PM |
#37 |
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There is no point |
MuseRider |
Jun-22-07 10:18 PM |
#47 |
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It's Not About Them Not Getting It Or Them Being Stupid. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 10:26 PM |
#49 |
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You are now the keeper of what is right and what is wrong along with the definition of logic |
Veganistan |
Jun-22-07 11:17 PM |
#60 |
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You Can Criticize My Person All You Want. It Still Doesn't Overcome The Logic. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 11:42 PM |
#67 |
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You've made no evidence based statements of logic, only assertions inspired by, colored by and |
Veganistan |
Jun-23-07 12:45 AM |
#77 |
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you are using "logic" as you see it |
datasuspect |
Jun-23-07 10:25 AM |
#89 |
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I Am Using Logic As It Exists In Reality. Can You Refute It? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 02:01 PM |
#114 |
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precise language |
datasuspect |
Jun-23-07 03:09 PM |
#124 |
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You Dismiss With No Evidence. You Are Putting Forth Empty Premise. That Makes It Illegitimate. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 03:15 PM |
#126 |
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you throw around the word logic way too much |
datasuspect |
Jun-23-07 04:01 PM |
#134 |
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Your Words Are Empty Without Substance Behind Them. Until You Supply Some, You've Put Forth Nothing |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 05:05 PM |
#143 |
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sophistry |
datasuspect |
Jun-23-07 10:23 AM |
#88 |
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can you define what you mean by "logic" |
datasuspect |
Jun-23-07 10:21 AM |
#87 |
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Do You Seriously Not Know What Logic Means? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 02:02 PM |
#115 |
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can you answer what you think it means? |
datasuspect |
Jun-23-07 03:05 PM |
#122 |
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I Was Niether Rude Nor Combative. Don't Be So Sensitive. If You Know What Logic Means, Then |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 03:36 PM |
#130 |
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bombast |
datasuspect |
Jun-23-07 03:59 PM |
#133 |
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Have You Anything Useful Or Containing Merit To Contribute To This Discussion? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 05:06 PM |
#144 |
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I think I am going to have to disagree with this somewhat: |
The Straight Story |
Jun-22-07 09:09 PM |
#26 |
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What you said. Give 'em ONE more chance to understand why we elected them. |
Redstone |
Jun-22-07 09:24 PM |
#32 |
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I am a patient and forgiving person |
The Straight Story |
Jun-22-07 09:43 PM |
#35 |
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You Said "The idea here is". That's The Rub: It's Not The Idea; It's The Outcome. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 09:58 PM |
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And the key to that is, as you said: |
The Straight Story |
Jun-22-07 10:07 PM |
#41 |
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Gotta Be Honest: This Stage Of The Game Is All This OP Is Referencing. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 10:10 PM |
#44 |
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Fair enough old friend |
The Straight Story |
Jun-22-07 10:20 PM |
#48 |
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LOL |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 10:27 PM |
#50 |
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I'll have a beer with you on that one! |
The Straight Story |
Jun-22-07 10:33 PM |
#52 |
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K and R |
ourbluenation |
Jun-22-07 09:22 PM |
#31 |
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Your method isn't going to solve anything. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-22-07 09:31 PM |
#34 |
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Unfortunately, the two party system is having |
mmonk |
Jun-22-07 09:54 PM |
#38 |
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You summed it up!! IMO, 3rd party votes |
Mark_Pogue |
Jun-22-07 10:16 PM |
#46 |
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Well according to your obviously flawed logic there ... |
Everybody |
Jun-22-07 10:56 PM |
#55 |
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That's A Completely False Assertion. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 11:01 PM |
#56 |
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Now that would be a shit storm :) |
The Straight Story |
Jun-22-07 11:02 PM |
#57 |
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Not Tellin... |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-22-07 11:18 PM |
#61 |
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No, not necessarily true, especially if the Dems nominate somebody big like Hillary. |
Selatius |
Jun-23-07 12:17 AM |
#76 |
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sorry OMC, some of us can think more than one election cycle into the future. we are |
HardRocker05 |
Jun-22-07 11:55 PM |
#69 |
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Yes yes yes |
sampsonblk |
Jun-23-07 12:35 PM |
#107 |
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The majority of eligible voters will vote for |
Tom Joad |
Jun-23-07 12:04 AM |
#73 |
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You Don't Think They Do? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 12:09 AM |
#75 |
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I agree with you, but your argument is futile if it falls on deaf ears... |
assclown_bush |
Jun-23-07 02:21 AM |
#79 |
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Punish the party? |
MuseRider |
Jun-23-07 10:17 AM |
#85 |
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"back to the people"??? |
assclown_bush |
Jun-23-07 01:32 PM |
#112 |
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this post is kinda like a ...how can i put it...? |
tomp |
Jun-23-07 10:05 AM |
#83 |
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Actually It's Quite Simply Just Pure Logic About The Way It Is. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 11:14 AM |
#91 |
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i've watched your postings carefully enough to know... |
tomp |
Jun-23-07 01:30 PM |
#111 |
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You're Dead Wrong. I, As In The Past, Will Readily Admit Error When Necessary. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 02:05 PM |
#116 |
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the op IS about you... |
tomp |
Jun-24-07 12:18 AM |
#149 |
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Funny. You Keep Attacking The Person, Yet Haven't Offered A Shred Of Logic To Refute The OP. None. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-24-07 12:55 PM |
#150 |
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your post is no more or less true... |
tomp |
Jun-25-07 10:29 AM |
#164 |
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i'll vote fer swillary if i have to but damn will i have to hold my nose |
natrat |
Jun-23-07 10:26 AM |
#90 |
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I Can Understand That. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 02:05 PM |
#117 |
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How come they don't care if a Democrat wins? |
dogday |
Jun-23-07 11:21 AM |
#92 |
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You Can't Combine The Two Logically. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 02:10 PM |
#118 |
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That is correct if that is how Americans are thinking but |
dogday |
Jun-23-07 02:26 PM |
#121 |
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There may well be a viable third party candidate this time. nt |
calteacherguy |
Jun-23-07 11:28 AM |
#94 |
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When One Becomes Available, Then The OP No Longer Has Merit. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 02:11 PM |
#119 |
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You're assuming party affiliation determines choice... |
WHAT |
Jun-23-07 11:36 AM |
#96 |
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So in other words: Party before country. Go Team Go. Rah Rah Rah. |
Beelzebud |
Jun-23-07 11:47 AM |
#99 |
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No; Not In Other Words. That's Far Too Narrow Minded Of A Premise. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 02:13 PM |
#120 |
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... and you'd certainly know a narrow minded premise when you see one ... |
hippiechick |
Jun-25-07 12:17 PM |
#174 |
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It's (nominally) a Democracy. In a Democracy, it's the CANDIDATE'S job |
kenzee13 |
Jun-23-07 11:48 AM |
#101 |
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I'll use history here |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jun-23-07 12:54 PM |
#109 |
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Now that I think of it... |
Aya Reiko |
Jun-23-07 01:02 PM |
#110 |
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I stayed home until 2000 and stand by that. |
Jed Dilligan |
Jun-23-07 03:21 PM |
#127 |
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Ahh OMC, engaging in some more black and white thinking again |
MadHound |
Jun-23-07 03:24 PM |
#128 |
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It's Not My Thinking. It's Logical Reality Whether I Think It Or Not. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 03:39 PM |
#131 |
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The reason that I didn't get into it all is because I know that I can lay out, in black and white |
MadHound |
Jun-23-07 03:56 PM |
#132 |
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Maybe You'd Have A Leg To Stand On If You Engaged In Contextual Debate Rather Than Empty Critique. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 05:10 PM |
#145 |
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This theme has been discussed a lot on here |
DFW |
Jun-23-07 03:32 PM |
#129 |
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It's easy to break things down into 2 fundamental meanings |
LWolf |
Jun-23-07 04:31 PM |
#135 |
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If You Disagree With The OP, Please Show What It Missed. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-23-07 05:12 PM |
#146 |
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You miss my point entirely. Probably deliberately. |
LWolf |
Jun-24-07 01:06 PM |
#151 |
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thank you for clarifying accountabilty, because those doing political calculus are gambling |
bettyellen |
Jun-24-07 01:57 PM |
#155 |
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You're welcome. n/t |
LWolf |
Jun-24-07 03:30 PM |
#161 |
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I Agree With That, But It's Separate From The OP. The OP Still Exists At The Same Time. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-24-07 02:14 PM |
#157 |
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I still disagree. |
LWolf |
Jun-24-07 03:50 PM |
#162 |
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Some of that is a bit strong: |
DFW |
Jun-24-07 04:18 PM |
#163 |
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Interesting. |
LWolf |
Jun-25-07 11:30 AM |
#167 |
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Well Then |
Madspirit |
Jun-23-07 04:39 PM |
#139 |
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Have we learned nothing from the past? |
Kajsa |
Jun-24-07 01:24 PM |
#154 |
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Basic human nature trumps "logic" |
depakid |
Jun-24-07 02:13 PM |
#156 |
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Logic Always Trumps Human Nature. It Is Human Nature That Is Flawed. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-24-07 02:21 PM |
#159 |
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"Unless there is a viable third party candidate..." |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Jun-24-07 02:16 PM |
#158 |
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You Can't Be Serious. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-24-07 02:24 PM |
#160 |
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Since the Democrats we elected in 2006 have failed to do anything... |
txaslftist |
Jun-25-07 11:04 AM |
#165 |
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SCOTUS--three landmarks handed down just today, one Enron-related decision |
blondeatlast |
Jun-25-07 11:33 AM |
#168 |
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You seem to think that the votes mattered in 2004 or in 2000. |
txaslftist |
Jun-25-07 12:10 PM |
#172 |
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perhaps no |
hiphopnation23 |
Jun-25-07 12:10 PM |
#171 |
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Thank you for your opinion. |
hippiechick |
Jun-25-07 12:11 PM |
#173 |
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There is no chance whatsoever that a 'third party' candidate |
Rex |
Jun-25-07 12:20 PM |
#176 |
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If everyone on the left continues to hold their noses and vote Dem |
Jonathan50 |
Jun-25-07 12:43 PM |
#177 |
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Or it could mean they are voting for the candidate of their choice. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Jun-25-07 01:54 PM |
#179 |
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I declare that I am about to obtain pure objectivity right about.... |
Moochy |
Jun-25-07 11:44 PM |
#180 |
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