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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 10:25 AM
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50. His ideas are decidedly mainstream.
There is nothing "fringe" about him unless you use Limbaugh's and Gingrich's definition of fringe. Any liberal or progressive that characterizes him as such is enabling the standards of radical conservatives.

Ideas that were always previously so radical as to be unthinkable are now routinely identified as "mainstream conservatism." Conversely, political principles that have been such an integral part of America's political identity as to be unquestionable are now the hallmarks of "fringe liberalism" (a "fringe" which, as our last election demonstrated, now includes an ever-growing majority of the population).-Glenn Greenwald

In the quote above, Greenwald was discussing the conventional wisdom towards liberal bloggers but the sentiment could be applied to Moore, as well.
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  - Who sees him as a fringe figure?  Luminous Animal   Jun-22-07 09:20 AM   #43 
  - I don't think there's any real argument about Moore being 'fringe.'  Lance_Boyle   Jun-22-07 09:50 AM   #49 
  - His ideas are decidedly mainstream.  Luminous Animal   Jun-22-07 10:25 AM   #50 
     - I never said his ideas were fringe - only his persona  Lance_Boyle   Jun-22-07 10:29 AM   #51 
        - His persona is fringe?  Luminous Animal   Jun-22-07 10:38 AM   #53 
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  - kick. (n/t)  area51   Jun-22-07 06:29 PM   #59 
  - As it should!  laylah   Jun-22-07 06:40 PM   #61 

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