dmallind
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Thu Jun-21-07 11:55 AM
Response to Original message |
|
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 11:56 AM by dmallind
He wrote it.
He knows what he intended it to mean, and anyone else who starts hypothesizing is simply reading more into the work than was put there. Yes it's possible an especially acute mind can use critical analysis to detect subconscious influences on the author that caused more meaning to be there than he intended, but it's far more likely that a pseudo-intellectual can guess wrong or just parrot what others have said.
He makes a fair point - does anyone want to defend the impact of television on the cultural and political awareness of the average citizen?
As has been pointed out, the two posited meanings - the marginalization of literature and the warning against censorship - are far from mutually incompatible. We KNOW the first is explicitly there because we know what the guy who wrote it was saying when he did so. We can with varying levels of credibility try to prove that the latter is there too, but there is no argument that the first is NOT there.
What does it matter if he's a freeper? He can't write well or can't with genuine merit and feeling lament the soporific retarding effect of televized pablum just because he disagrees with us politically? From all I've read Hitler loved dogs. I do too. I have no hesitation in saying that, on the subject of dogs, I agree with Hitler; or that on the subject of television's detrimental impact that I agree with Ray Bradbury. Only a total dolt would say they disagree with an author on what he intended his book to say, regardless of his politics.
|
| -Ray Bradbury: Fahrenheit 451 is about How TV Destroys Literature |
Sequoia |
Jun-21-07 11:19 AM |
#0 |
-
Poor Ray, so addled he doesn't remember his own book. |
MNDemNY |
Jun-21-07 11:21 AM |
#1 |
-
He's been a freeper for a while. Sad, but sometimes you do get more |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jun-21-07 11:21 AM |
#2 |
 -
he's been a freeper for a LONG while. |
ellenfl |
Jun-21-07 11:34 AM |
#7 |
 -
He's not a freeper. |
Shakespeare |
Jun-21-07 12:13 PM |
#16 |
-
Indeed? |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Jun-21-07 04:32 PM |
#36 |
-
Flash: Will Shakespeare said today, |
MNDemNY |
Jun-21-07 11:24 AM |
#3 |
 -
And to think I always thought it was an anti-teen-sex rant |
Bucky |
Jun-21-07 11:26 AM |
#5 |
-
So there's no validity in the anti-censorship interpretations of his book? |
Bucky |
Jun-21-07 11:25 AM |
#4 |
-
Maybe Bradbury should turn off the Faux news and read his own book. |
Kerrytravelers |
Jun-21-07 11:31 AM |
#6 |
-
Ray clearly wrote about the acidic effect of television in "The Pedestrian" |
Ezlivin |
Jun-21-07 11:36 AM |
#8 |
 -
Sometimes when I'm reading and the tv is on |
Sequoia |
Jun-21-07 12:46 PM |
#22 |
-
Uh, isn't this what Al Gore is also saying? |
SteelPenguin |
Jun-21-07 11:38 AM |
#9 |
 -
No, Al Gore isn't against TV. He owns a network. He's against BAD TV. NT |
NYCGirl |
Jun-21-07 11:46 AM |
#11 |
-
Sniff! It's sad when old people lose it. Uh, where was I? |
BikeWriter |
Jun-21-07 11:44 AM |
#10 |
-
If you can't rewrite the book, just rewrite HISTORY. |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-07 11:51 AM |
#12 |
-
Wait a minute |
dmallind |
Jun-21-07 11:55 AM |
#13 |
 -
Sure, there can be more than one message in a book |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jun-21-07 12:05 PM |
#15 |
-
Bad content and misinformation can be found on teevee and in books. |
valerief |
Jun-21-07 11:58 AM |
#14 |
 -
I beg to differ. |
NCevilDUer |
Jun-21-07 12:18 PM |
#17 |
  -
GREAT post. |
Shakespeare |
Jun-21-07 12:23 PM |
#19 |
   -
That must've been cool. |
Sequoia |
Jun-21-07 01:00 PM |
#25 |
  -
He's an absolute sweetheart. |
Shakespeare |
Jun-21-07 01:47 PM |
#29 |
  -
A Bill Moyers series vs. Ann Coulter books. Those are your only choices. |
valerief |
Jun-21-07 12:26 PM |
#20 |
 -
As I said, different mediums. |
NCevilDUer |
Jun-21-07 12:53 PM |
#23 |
 -
why can't you argue with the TV? |
hfojvt |
Jun-21-07 01:05 PM |
#27 |
  -
You said it right there - |
NCevilDUer |
Jun-21-07 02:24 PM |
#31 |
 -
So how do you argue with a book again? I missed that. nt |
valerief |
Jun-21-07 04:25 PM |
#34 |
 -
I "read" your answer and I still don't know what your choice was. |
valerief |
Jun-21-07 04:23 PM |
#32 |
 -
That's "ease" not "east" - too late to edit. nt |
NCevilDUer |
Jun-21-07 05:06 PM |
#37 |
 -
Yeah, but people don't reap much, so bad books are relatively harmless |
JVS |
Jun-21-07 12:18 PM |
#18 |
 -
Right |
fishnfla |
Jun-21-07 12:57 PM |
#24 |
-
You don't know how to read books if you think they're not selling something. nt |
valerief |
Jun-21-07 04:24 PM |
#33 |
-
no reply necessary |
fishnfla |
Jun-21-07 05:16 PM |
#39 |
-
Huh? nt |
valerief |
Jun-22-07 12:33 PM |
#40 |
-
As far as dystopian novels go, that one sucks. |
Vickers |
Jun-21-07 12:31 PM |
#21 |
-
Well, more people are reading now than ever before - on the internet |
The Straight Story |
Jun-21-07 01:03 PM |
#26 |
-
One thing lately crossing my mind |
Jim Warren |
Jun-21-07 01:13 PM |
#28 |
-
"There is such a thing as too much education." |
ieoeja |
Jun-21-07 02:06 PM |
#30 |
-
That's what's cool about art. It admits of useful and interesting interpretations.... |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-21-07 04:25 PM |
#35 |
-
I wonder if Bradbury felt the same about his TV show. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-21-07 05:08 PM |
#38 |
-
Bradbury has devolved |
librechik |
Jun-22-07 12:41 PM |
#41 |