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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:50 PM
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17. another link where Clinton blames the Iraqis for the mess
before this convention Clinton was laying the blame for Iraq at the victim's feet

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/1735/81 /
"I was dismayed on Sunday night, however, when Senator Clinton tried to blame the Iraqis for the current quagmire. If someone invaded the US, dissolved the US army, fired all the capable government bureaucrats, instituted ethnic quota hiring, rounded up thousands of people and tortured them, etc., the people of the US might not respond calmly, either.)"

and there is another link which calls this the Bi-Partisan Blame the Iraqis Gambit
http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070...

In the Sunday Post of June 3, "The 'Blame The Iraqis' Gambit," a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, neocon Robert Kagan, writes that people who "want to justify the unjustifiable and accept the unacceptable ... try all kinds of ways to make themselves feel better about their decision."

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  -Hillary says Iraq problems are all the Iraqis' fault. The crowd booed. Robbien  Jun-20-07 12:03 PM   #0 
  - Wrong answer Clinton. I think the polls are fictious. They show W @ 20%  xultar   Jun-20-07 12:05 PM   #1 
  - Ha. She may be using RNC pollers. That must be the answer.  Robbien   Jun-20-07 12:14 PM   # 
  - the media has pushed her & obama as the top contenders  redqueen   Jun-20-07 12:09 PM   #2 
  - That's probably because they ARE the top contenders  Kagemusha   Jun-20-07 12:14 PM   #3 
  - How can you be the top before most of the public's seen much of anything?  redqueen   Jun-20-07 12:28 PM   #7 
     - Because the public's even less impressed with the others?  Kagemusha   Jun-20-07 12:50 PM   # 
        - most seem to be most impressed by poll numbers  redqueen   Jun-20-07 01:02 PM   #23 
  - Whatever their merits, I think it's obvious the corporate media  Benhurst   Jun-20-07 12:17 PM   #5 
  - how is she gaining? because people are uninformed and LAZY  leftchick   Jun-20-07 12:15 PM   #4 
  - Not Me  Madspirit   Jun-20-07 12:26 PM   #6 
     - As it was explained to me by Obama staffers here in NH, the  Raven   Jun-20-07 12:33 PM   #11 
     - The same old mistake of playing on the opposition's  mmonk   Jun-20-07 12:49 PM   #16 
        - "it's always the ones the media and the party bosses prop up"  redqueen   Jun-20-07 01:03 PM   #25 
     - wow! Now that is very informed!  leftchick   Jun-20-07 12:35 PM   #14 
        - You're Welcome  Madspirit   Jun-20-07 12:55 PM   #21 
        - Obama is a future theocrat?  Rosemary2205   Jun-20-07 01:10 PM   #27 
           - Nope  Madspirit   Jun-20-07 01:14 PM   #28 
           - I don't trust Obama on the gay right issue. He's WAY too mealy-mouthed about it.  karlrschneider   Jun-20-07 05:19 PM   #36 
        - It's not the first time she's  JTFrog   Jun-20-07 05:10 PM   #34 
           - it is truly dispicable  leftchick   Jun-20-07 06:24 PM   #38 
  - link? (i'm not asking to be a smart ass--i'd like to see what she said,  orleans   Jun-20-07 12:29 PM   #8 
  - I read it from Dave Johnson's blog. Dave is at the convention  Robbien   Jun-20-07 12:33 PM   #12 
  - another link where Clinton blames the Iraqis for the mess  Robbien   Jun-20-07 12:50 PM   #17 
  - I'm getting real nervous the Right is going to be able  genie_weenie   Jun-20-07 12:30 PM   #9 
  - I agree. That is a very real possibility.  herbster   Jun-20-07 06:24 PM   #39 
  - Oh no, she didn't say THAT, did she?  no_hypocrisy   Jun-20-07 12:31 PM   #10 
  - The people attending the Take Back America conference are all saying she did  Robbien   Jun-20-07 12:42 PM   #15 
     - That's like blaming the rape victim for her assault.  no_hypocrisy   Jun-20-07 12:50 PM   #18 
  - O would have booed too....this "It's the Iraqis' fault" nonsense has to stop  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-20-07 12:34 PM   #13 
  - What media? What liberal crowd? Where is the exact quote? You don't provide any links.  MichiganVote   Jun-20-07 12:51 PM   #19 
  - I've provided several links  Robbien   Jun-20-07 01:03 PM   #24 
  - Excuse me? Its your original post, not mine. People don't generally read an entire string  MichiganVote   Jun-20-07 04:33 PM   #30 
  - Here is a link of the corporate media blaming liberals for booing Hillary  Robbien   Jun-20-07 01:23 PM   #29 
     - She said the Bush administration has "a stunning record of secrecy and corruption,  MichiganVote   Jun-20-07 04:47 PM   #31 
  - She sounds like McCain  TexasThoughtCriminal   Jun-20-07 12:53 PM   #20 
  - Has John Edwards responded yet??  Labors of Hercules   Jun-20-07 12:59 PM   #22 
  - She says things everyday it seems  mmonk   Jun-20-07 01:03 PM   #26 
  - I hope someone asks her to spell out exactly what she means.  Disturbed   Jun-20-07 04:56 PM   #33 
  - "(S)he reminds one of the man who murdered both his parents, and then pleaded  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-20-07 04:54 PM   #32 
  - Yep....she is a top down type candidate.  IChing   Jun-20-07 05:26 PM   #37 
  - I'm rapidly losing my like for HRC.  karlrschneider   Jun-20-07 05:12 PM   #35 
 

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