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Wed Jun-20-07 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #51 |
| 132. My wife and I can't get private insurance. Period. |
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We've been on the wrong end of COBRAs too.
Insurance companies do everything they can to exclude people with chronic health problems.
Our current insurance, a group plan, is essentially a catastrophic policy. Every year we go over the limit, more than $10,000 and maybe closer to $15,000, and that's in addition to the obscene premiums we pay.
I honestly don't know what the point of my insurance card is. Yeah, it's something they can copy when I first see a healthcare provider, but when I meet them we both know we're going to get screwed over one way or another by the insurance company.
No matter how crappy I feel, I always try to be cheerful with doctors and nurses and therapists, because then maybe they will see me again even if the bills haven't been paid.
It's long reached the point where I simply don't give a damn about money. If a medical bill goes to collections and I start to get calls, so what? Once the collection agencies realize you simply can't care anymore, then they suddenly become less nasty dealing with you, like maybe if they are nice to you they'll you'll put them on the list of people you send partial payments to every month.
But I get so tired of it. I hope the U.S. gets a healthcare system of the sort all civilized nations have before I qualify for medicare, either by age or disability. Or maybe I'll get lucky and find a job with excellent health care benefits, although those seem to be getting rarer these days.
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| -I have fucking HAD IT with health insurance in this country |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 02:33 PM |
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You could do what a lot of folks do... |
MNDemNY |
Jun-19-07 02:37 PM |
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Make some local phone calls today. |
liberaldemocrat7 |
Jun-19-07 03:15 PM |
#22 |
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That--and outlaw for-profit health insurance |
StopThePendulum |
Jun-19-07 09:05 PM |
#49 |
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I had my insurance company deny payment for a procedure |
PA Democrat |
Jun-20-07 08:03 AM |
#99 |
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I had my insurance company deny payment for a procedure |
raccoon |
Jun-20-07 09:32 AM |
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Ha! Some of the worst gougers are allegedly "non-profit" |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-21-07 08:17 PM |
#158 |
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They deserve a long and painful demise |
kurth |
Jun-22-07 01:28 AM |
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Yeah, cheap & cheery health coverage |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 07:22 PM |
#31 |
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Have you tried a different carrier? |
question everything |
Jun-19-07 07:32 PM |
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We're going to phone around |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 11:04 PM |
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Thought I should let you know what our broker said |
magellan |
Jun-21-07 12:04 AM |
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I wouldn't recommend that |
Carni |
Jun-19-07 08:32 PM |
#47 |
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used to be in the "olden days" if you owed some one money and |
madmom |
Jun-20-07 11:12 AM |
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They don't really want you to remain their customer. |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jun-19-07 02:37 PM |
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That's what I hate about insurance of any kind, but espeically health insurance |
ComerPerro |
Jun-19-07 02:42 PM |
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It's just a matter of time before this country goes to a single-payer system |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jun-19-07 02:57 PM |
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Wait until you have two insurances....and they argue over who isn't going to pay |
windbreeze |
Jun-19-07 05:01 PM |
#29 |
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You nailed it |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 07:28 PM |
#32 |
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Same here |
kurth |
Jun-22-07 01:30 AM |
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but gee, aren't you glad to live here in the land of the free, where you can see any doctor you want |
ComerPerro |
Jun-19-07 02:39 PM |
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And yet people keep immigrating here |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-19-07 02:44 PM |
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Only because here is where |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:34 AM |
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Many of those immigrants have no medical insurance in their original |
raccoon |
Jun-20-07 09:35 AM |
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Well to be honest, our one major experience with the UK healthcare system wasn't great |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 07:38 PM |
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I'll rant with you! How about $893 a MONTH for an individual |
Raven |
Jun-19-07 02:42 PM |
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Heh, the last time I ever bought my seizure medicine it was $550 for a month |
ComerPerro |
Jun-19-07 02:46 PM |
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I will |
lildreamer316 |
Jun-19-07 03:11 PM |
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I wish I could find one for that little. |
Warpy |
Jun-19-07 02:48 PM |
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They only pay 80% |
Virginian |
Jun-20-07 12:53 AM |
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he's right, everybody's taken a pay cut but insurance execs |
Warpy |
Jun-20-07 09:18 AM |
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OMG, that's outrageous! |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 07:49 PM |
#39 |
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one word....Capitalism |
Pharaoh |
Jun-19-07 08:18 PM |
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Well, I'm not opposed to capitalism as long as it's well regulated |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 10:49 PM |
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Capitalism is wonderful for fast food, CDs, and baseball caps... |
KansDem |
Jun-21-07 09:20 AM |
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Sometimes associations have group plans -- have you checked out |
aikoaiko |
Jun-19-07 02:45 PM |
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We haven't |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 07:50 PM |
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The only ones I've heard about |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:36 AM |
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Sounds like ProudDad is giving good advice |
aikoaiko |
Jun-20-07 09:39 AM |
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If you are fairly young and fairly healthy, |
Big Blue Marble |
Jun-19-07 02:47 PM |
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Spouse & I have an HSA this year |
DemReadingDU |
Jun-19-07 02:59 PM |
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HSAs are UTTER BULLSHIT |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:38 AM |
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I disagree, they have their place |
MiniMe |
Jun-20-07 09:24 AM |
#105 |
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That's a FSA |
RGBolen |
Jun-20-07 04:20 PM |
#119 |
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I'm just opposed to HSAs |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 07:57 PM |
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You have the money in the account invested, it grows tax free |
RGBolen |
Jun-19-07 11:11 PM |
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I'd like to trust HSAs |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 11:31 PM |
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You pay taxes and a 10% penalty on anything withdrawn before age 65 that is not for medical |
RGBolen |
Jun-19-07 11:45 PM |
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Okay, I'll admit it |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:10 AM |
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No problem. |
RGBolen |
Jun-20-07 12:13 AM |
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I was hesitant about HSA too, but |
DemReadingDU |
Jun-20-07 06:09 AM |
#92 |
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Thanks! |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 10:55 AM |
#114 |
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This assumes that you have the financial resources to |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-21-07 08:24 PM |
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Check with your chamber of commerce |
Marrah_G |
Jun-19-07 02:49 PM |
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Are you talking about the small business association? |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 07:59 PM |
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Yes, SBA works also |
Marrah_G |
Jun-19-07 08:56 PM |
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You and your boss are fortunate |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 10:57 PM |
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I'd rather the chambers of commerce |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:41 AM |
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True but if they can point a small business owner to a group health plan it's worth a call |
Marrah_G |
Jun-20-07 07:37 AM |
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tell me about it |
GTRMAN |
Jun-19-07 02:49 PM |
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making a killing -- hand over fist |
Supersedeas |
Jun-19-07 04:25 PM |
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Same here. If we had put what we paid the insurance company into the |
Decruiter |
Jun-19-07 07:01 PM |
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"...since leaving the UK" |
depakid |
Jun-19-07 02:53 PM |
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It wasn't a mistake, actually |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 10:35 PM |
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What did I miss here? |
ben_meyers |
Jun-19-07 10:50 PM |
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No, no |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 11:13 PM |
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You may change your mind |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:45 AM |
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I don't buy into the myth at all |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 01:00 AM |
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and now....?! |
july302001 |
Jun-20-07 06:56 AM |
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Toodles! |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 05:32 PM |
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You should consider catastrophic care with high deductable |
youngdem |
Jun-19-07 03:01 PM |
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If we were younger we'd do that |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 11:38 PM |
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No insurance is perfect |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:47 AM |
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Michael Moore Tackles these issues in his movie Sicko |
dogday |
Jun-19-07 03:02 PM |
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That's "free at the point of service" health care |
eridani |
Jun-19-07 07:50 PM |
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They pay nothing |
dogday |
Jun-20-07 12:21 PM |
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Actually, we do pay a monthly premium, providing we are above a defined poverty |
Spazito |
Jun-20-07 04:35 PM |
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In MM movie Sicko, every single person he interviewed |
dogday |
Jun-21-07 08:53 AM |
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It depends on how the question is asked, imo |
Spazito |
Jun-21-07 01:07 PM |
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It was how much money did you pay for the |
dogday |
Jun-21-07 03:50 PM |
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Ahhh, the answer to those questions, then, could well be no |
Spazito |
Jun-21-07 04:16 PM |
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Paying taxes isn't "nothing" |
eridani |
Jun-20-07 05:01 PM |
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We pay a great deal in Taxes, would like to see |
dogday |
Jun-21-07 08:51 AM |
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What we need to do is to take the premiums that are wasted by private insurers-- |
eridani |
Jun-21-07 07:40 PM |
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I don't think we need new taxes anyway |
dogday |
Jun-22-07 10:56 AM |
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see michael moore's newest, "sicko" --and see just how awful things really are here in the richest |
niyad |
Jun-19-07 03:04 PM |
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You could try our plan |
catmandu57 |
Jun-19-07 03:07 PM |
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You gave both me and hubby a laugh |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:38 AM |
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have you been to this site yet? |
LSK |
Jun-19-07 03:13 PM |
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I used to get my health insurance from them and they are quite |
Cleita |
Jun-19-07 07:37 PM |
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No, but it turns out my husband has |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 11:36 PM |
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Jeezus. |
Clark2008 |
Jun-19-07 03:28 PM |
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If it were just me I'd do that |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:43 AM |
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I know - healthcare coverage in this country SUCKS. |
Clark2008 |
Jun-22-07 10:17 AM |
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Read your fine print |
China_cat |
Jun-19-07 03:33 PM |
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LOL! |
Cleita |
Jun-19-07 07:39 PM |
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ROFL |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 11:40 PM |
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And of course our swell Congresspeople |
Golden Raisin |
Jun-19-07 03:36 PM |
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Russ Feingold had a great ad in the last election |
dragonlady |
Jun-19-07 04:19 PM |
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I have only seen a doctor |
Coyote_Bandit |
Jun-19-07 04:45 PM |
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We deserve the same level of care that CONGRESS gets |
magellan |
Jun-19-07 11:48 PM |
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What the HELL is health insurance?????? |
Breeze54 |
Jun-19-07 07:29 PM |
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It's an effin' SCAM, that's what! |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:01 AM |
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Also, those deductibles are per year and only for the |
Cleita |
Jun-19-07 07:35 PM |
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Agreed, Medicare for all |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:23 AM |
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HR 676 |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:50 AM |
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Kucinich is my man |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 01:02 AM |
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Makes me feel better about working for the state |
Gatchaman |
Jun-19-07 08:15 PM |
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Wow, that's good! |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:30 AM |
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try an HMO if you can near you. or just getting major medical, i.e. catastrophic coverage, which |
robinlynne |
Jun-19-07 08:24 PM |
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Oh, I had a very bad experience with an HMO some years ago |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:34 AM |
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I have kaiser. i'm in california. around 300 a month (I'm 49). no deductible. The |
robinlynne |
Jun-20-07 10:36 AM |
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Coincidentally it happened when I lived in CA and was on Kaiser |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 10:53 AM |
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I was stuck with Kaiser when I lived in So. California. |
Cleita |
Jun-20-07 05:38 PM |
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We're in same position, paying about the same $$. |
philly_bob |
Jun-19-07 09:10 PM |
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That's the blessed truth |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 12:51 AM |
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no, you simply can't be self-employed in this country any more |
pitohui |
Jun-19-07 10:10 PM |
#51 |
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My wife and I can't get private insurance. Period. |
hunter |
Jun-20-07 08:10 PM |
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Now that's sad |
treestar |
Jun-21-07 01:48 PM |
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i've had it w/ insurance, period. it's a racket; they take your money every month, but when it come |
HardRocker05 |
Jun-19-07 10:16 PM |
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self employed and no insurance. ta da! n/t |
orleans |
Jun-19-07 10:40 PM |
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The ONLY reason hat there is not Universal Health Care in |
rasputin1952 |
Jun-19-07 10:45 PM |
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I think I've found a solution for myself -- some of you may be interested |
Morgana LaFey |
Jun-19-07 10:56 PM |
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get a reference from someone in your area who has done this |
pitohui |
Jun-20-07 12:32 AM |
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Good advice, but I trust the company thru which this is being offered |
Morgana LaFey |
Jun-21-07 04:58 PM |
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BE VERY CAREFUL |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:56 AM |
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Oh, I'm very sure this isn't a scam |
Morgana LaFey |
Jun-21-07 04:59 PM |
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are you in marketing? |
datasuspect |
Jun-20-07 06:12 AM |
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no nt |
Morgana LaFey |
Jun-21-07 04:59 PM |
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I'm self employed and I'm with Golden Rule (United Health care) |
Lorien |
Jun-19-07 11:06 PM |
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Same as us |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 06:03 PM |
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Less than a year |
Lorien |
Jun-20-07 10:08 PM |
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I hate to break it to you but $1740 a quarter for 2 people |
ProudDad |
Jun-20-07 12:33 AM |
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We're self-employed, too, and my only advice to you is to not age |
Vinca |
Jun-20-07 06:50 AM |
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I know this is what we're facing |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 06:24 PM |
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here's your problem: |
july302001 |
Jun-20-07 07:02 AM |
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This post infuriates me |
july302001 |
Jun-20-07 07:17 AM |
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PSST! The poster is an American. This is her home. |
PA Democrat |
Jun-20-07 08:25 AM |
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I think you need to chill. |
agtcovert |
Jun-20-07 08:29 AM |
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Well that was the last thing I was expecting to read at DU today. |
oktoberain |
Jun-20-07 08:32 AM |
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I was born here and I'll be damned before I accept the Reagan ideal of anything. |
Lars39 |
Jun-20-07 08:37 AM |
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"Either you accept the way we do things here in the United States, or you go back home." |
PelosiFan |
Jun-20-07 11:30 AM |
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PA Democrat is right: I'm an American, born and bred |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 05:50 PM |
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Magellan, I wish you good luck in getting some health insurance. |
Radio_Lady |
Jun-22-07 01:12 AM |
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Thanks, Radio Lady |
magellan |
Jun-22-07 01:48 AM |
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an ideological choice |
july302001 |
Jun-20-07 10:26 AM |
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Wow! YOU "believe" that the poster has plenty of resources to afford |
PA Democrat |
Jun-20-07 10:42 AM |
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delete |
PelosiFan |
Jun-20-07 11:39 AM |
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it doesn't appear to be an ideological choice, it appears the OP is an american citizen |
pitohui |
Jun-20-07 06:05 PM |
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How do you know why the poster came to the US from the UK? |
treestar |
Jun-21-07 01:43 PM |
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Actually, I'm the American citizen and my husband is British |
magellan |
Jun-21-07 03:12 PM |
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It would be cheaper to buy a plane ticket back to the UK and get |
dkofos |
Jun-20-07 10:29 AM |
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Yes, probably even Cuba. n/t |
Cleita |
Jun-20-07 05:41 PM |
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Can't do that because we're no longer residents of the UK |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 05:56 PM |
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seriously consider doing what we did |
pitohui |
Jun-20-07 06:03 PM |
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It wouldn't make much sense in our situation |
magellan |
Jun-20-07 06:39 PM |
#131 |
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oh dear i was afraid it might be something like that |
pitohui |
Jun-21-07 03:53 PM |
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It's hard for us to find time off in lengths |
magellan |
Jun-21-07 11:43 PM |
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I feel your pain.... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Jun-20-07 08:15 PM |
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Just wow |
magellan |
Jun-21-07 12:18 AM |
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I think many more than 47 million are uninsured. They've been using |
Vinca |
Jun-21-07 06:19 AM |
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Every year we've had this insurance which is BCBS |
BlackVelvet04 |
Jun-21-07 08:44 AM |
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dupe-self delete |
sybylla |
Jun-21-07 09:12 AM |
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Self employed and in the same situation |
sybylla |
Jun-21-07 09:13 AM |
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It's heartbreaking to read your story |
magellan |
Jun-21-07 03:32 PM |
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Welcome to the land of the medically fucked... |
warren pease |
Jun-21-07 06:37 PM |
#155 |
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I know (sigh) |
magellan |
Jun-22-07 12:09 AM |
#163 |
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How the bastards justify it all... |
warren pease |
Jun-22-07 10:15 AM |
#173 |
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Welcome to America. Insurance rates gp up for no apparent reason (except greed) |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jun-21-07 07:58 PM |
#157 |
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2 words - "medical tourism" - Google it, my friend |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jun-21-07 08:26 PM |
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Fascinating, thanks! |
magellan |
Jun-22-07 12:13 AM |
#164 |
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And check these rates... |
warren pease |
Jun-22-07 11:32 AM |
#177 |
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Sounds like you Brits aren't tough enough to survive the American healthcare industry. |
Bozita |
Jun-21-07 11:54 PM |
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I'm American, my husband is British |
magellan |
Jun-22-07 12:34 AM |
#165 |
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I'm furious. |
Bozita |
Jun-22-07 12:49 AM |
#166 |
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I hope you're right! |
magellan |
Jun-22-07 12:58 AM |
#167 |
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I watched it too a few days ago, it is definitely going to stir up the pot |
48percenter |
Jun-22-07 10:19 AM |
#175 |
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A new job. That's what we did. |
SmokingJacket |
Jun-22-07 01:59 AM |
#172 |
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Canadian auto plants are cheaper to operate due to (are you ready?) ... healthcare costs |
Bozita |
Jun-23-07 11:50 PM |
#178 |