TwilightGardener
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Sat Jun-16-07 10:52 PM
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| 19. Agree completely. Get the goddamn ball rolling before it's too late-- |
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and besides, Freepers are openly using the "I" word now, because of Jorge Arbusto's immigration bill--they WANT US to do it.
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| -Impeachment Without A Conviction? Hell Yes! |
kpete |
Jun-16-07 05:40 PM |
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Impeachment is a wrench in their gears. |
Gregorian |
Jun-16-07 05:55 PM |
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more |
kpete |
Jun-16-07 06:00 PM |
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I agree |
blayne |
Jun-17-07 01:38 PM |
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Exactly! That's my main reason for getting after these bastards NOW... |
warren pease |
Jun-17-07 01:59 PM |
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Break the line of succession. |
Gregorian |
Jun-17-07 02:31 PM |
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No, no, no. There will be no impeachment unless there is a chance of conviction. |
elocs |
Jun-16-07 08:00 PM |
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Al Franken suggested impeaching him in early January 2009, |
Qutzupalotl |
Jun-16-07 08:14 PM |
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Al has a good sense of humor. I hope he becomes Wisconsin's 3rd senator |
elocs |
Jun-16-07 08:19 PM |
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Wisconsin's 3rd Senator lol |
Connonym |
Jun-17-07 11:29 AM |
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I would l ike to see the Dems do it, just to prove they can...Conviction or not!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Jun-17-07 10:16 AM |
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How many independent, swing voting Americans do you think there are? |
Vincardog |
Jun-16-07 08:51 PM |
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Yes, exactly. |
Usrename |
Jun-17-07 05:19 AM |
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You got that right. We have to make them face the facts. |
Vincardog |
Jun-18-07 03:17 PM |
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and can you offer any support for your contention that there is no "middle" |
onenote |
Jun-17-07 08:19 AM |
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No one can prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you sir. The vast undecided independent |
Vincardog |
Jun-17-07 02:21 PM |
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that depends on what "your" side is |
onenote |
Jun-17-07 10:48 PM |
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AS to Ned do ya think it had anything to do with the DINO DLC support he received? |
Vincardog |
Jun-18-07 03:05 PM |
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Of course meaningless timetables with no teeth was serious? A "no confidence" vote |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-17-07 12:44 PM |
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wronger words have never been typed. you ought to look into a career at the DLC |
burythehatchet |
Jun-17-07 04:19 PM |
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No, cowardice is name-calling, using buzz words to discredit somebody's opinion. |
elocs |
Jun-17-07 04:35 PM |
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I'm sorry |
burythehatchet |
Jun-17-07 04:41 PM |
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I could get behind that, just so the history books might reflect what an |
babylonsister |
Jun-16-07 08:08 PM |
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if the effort is truly one without a chance in hell of a conviction |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 06:40 AM |
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its beyond me that you just know for a fact there can/will be no conviction |
madokie |
Jun-17-07 07:10 AM |
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the premise of the OP is to impeach 'no matter what the outcome may be' |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 07:20 AM |
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Just what do you propose we do |
madokie |
Jun-17-07 07:29 AM |
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I've got eyes and ears |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 07:48 AM |
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what frustrates me is saying we shouldn't because we don't have the votes |
madokie |
Jun-17-07 07:53 AM |
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well, the votes are part of it - the most important part, in my view |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 08:16 AM |
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I think we are totally on different pages |
madokie |
Jun-17-07 08:24 AM |
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this is the problem madokie: folks getting ragged on for having reservations |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 08:48 AM |
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Have you read HR333? It contains specific charges. Go read it if you haven't already. |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-17-07 12:53 PM |
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I've got my own set of charges, but there haven't been any presented |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 03:01 PM |
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What madokie is suggesting is that the system might actually work. |
IMModerate |
Jun-17-07 01:19 PM |
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I want to know how any process will affect the goals we have set out |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 03:18 PM |
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A good question. Legislation is blocked by the Senate... |
IMModerate |
Jun-17-07 04:22 PM |
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also, |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 04:39 PM |
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OK, let's test it out. |
IMModerate |
Jun-17-07 06:46 PM |
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I think that the legislative process isn't as static as you think |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 07:51 PM |
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"DU Orthodoxy"--now that term says it all. I'll have to remember that one. |
elocs |
Jun-17-07 11:52 PM |
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No Confidence, if passed would have effected what? Toothless timetables would have done |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-17-07 12:51 PM |
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I don't think you have any ground at all to distinguish a process that doesn't intend to convict |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 03:10 PM |
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The pace isn't the issue. Condi is ignoring her subpoena at the same pace |
John Q. Citizen |
Jun-17-07 11:16 PM |
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I fully agree. |
Qutzupalotl |
Jun-16-07 08:11 PM |
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I'll put it on my wish list, right next to winning the Powerball tonight. |
karlrschneider |
Jun-16-07 08:14 PM |
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"Most of whom just sit on their fat asses"-- |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-16-07 10:49 PM |
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madokie turns to look and guess what, no fat ass here |
madokie |
Jun-17-07 07:31 AM |
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Impeachment without conviction is a positive step. |
hootinholler |
Jun-16-07 08:35 PM |
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Another good reason for impeachment Hoot... you stated: |
lyonn |
Jun-16-07 11:53 PM |
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Impeach them all. After open public thorough investigations and the highlighting their |
Vincardog |
Jun-16-07 08:47 PM |
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I think the GOP knew |
Mz Pip |
Jun-16-07 08:52 PM |
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And the impeachment of Clinton worked in so far as |
JDPriestly |
Jun-17-07 02:18 PM |
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Why is this still even a debate? |
walldude |
Jun-16-07 08:58 PM |
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Don't forget the fact that they "receive" contributions, BIG ... |
Amonester |
Jun-16-07 10:45 PM |
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(I forgot to add:) never. Until the day contributions will be regulated |
Amonester |
Jun-16-07 10:56 PM |
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DLC doesn't want Bush to be impeached |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Jun-17-07 12:59 PM |
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Absolutely agree. |
Vidar |
Jun-16-07 09:05 PM |
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Agree, if not now when? |
mirrera |
Jun-16-07 09:36 PM |
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Agree completely. Get the goddamn ball rolling before it's too late-- |
wienerdoggie |
Jun-16-07 10:52 PM |
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K&R. (nt) |
Kurovski |
Jun-16-07 09:40 PM |
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Impeach, indict. Say goodbye, it's time to go! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-17-07 12:00 AM |
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HELL YES!!!! I'm sorry I don't remember who said it here - deep apologies |
calimary |
Jun-17-07 12:45 AM |
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Yes! Failure to impeach is a tacit admission that the system does not work! |
IMModerate |
Jun-17-07 01:30 PM |
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That's exactly right. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jun-17-07 10:55 PM |
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the first rule of politics is self-preservation . . . when the evidence is presented . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Jun-17-07 03:28 AM |
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if one occurs, it won't be some omnibus collection of charges |
bigtree |
Jun-17-07 06:02 AM |
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I say we need to cover all the bases to stop the destruction of America. |
lonestarnot |
Jun-17-07 09:11 AM |
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The radical Republicans failed to convict Andrew Johnson but they crippled his presidency. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-17-07 09:52 AM |
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Yes, the modernday equivalent of a 'tarring and feathering' as you can get nt |
EVDebs |
Jun-17-07 12:58 PM |
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It will move the focus from the Republican candidate in 2008 |
JDPriestly |
Jun-17-07 02:14 PM |
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I agree completely |
NotGonnaTakeIt |
Jun-17-07 02:52 PM |
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Would you take an unsuccessful impeachment now over a successful one later? |
EstimatedProphet |
Jun-17-07 02:57 PM |
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Yes because it would bring them to a screeching halt until 2008 |
ThomWV |
Jun-17-07 03:29 PM |
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That's where we have our disagreement then |
EstimatedProphet |
Jun-17-07 08:55 PM |
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Ummm,...that didn't work out so well, last time. Convictions are NECESSARY, this time. |
sicksicksick_N_tired |
Jun-17-07 03:12 PM |
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I say jump on it |
libodem |
Jun-17-07 04:07 PM |
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I agree -- it is clear only impeachment will stop this war (nt) |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-17-07 04:09 PM |
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I see no reason to avoid impeachment proceedings |
Canuckistanian |
Jun-17-07 04:14 PM |
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"legally, impeachment is a slam dunk"? What does that mean? |
onenote |
Jun-18-07 11:47 AM |
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I meant "the case for impeachment" is a slam dunk |
Canuckistanian |
Jun-18-07 12:10 PM |
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Investigate, then impeach |
sampsonblk |
Jun-17-07 04:16 PM |
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Excellent. Release the Hounds. |
bjobotts |
Jun-17-07 04:49 PM |
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What's the worst that can happen? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jun-17-07 10:12 PM |
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several things |
onenote |
Jun-18-07 11:50 AM |
#81 |
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