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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 09:05 PM
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14. Absolutely agree.
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  -Impeachment Without A Conviction? Hell Yes! kpete  Jun-16-07 05:40 PM   #0 
  - Impeachment is a wrench in their gears.  Gregorian   Jun-16-07 05:55 PM   #1 
  - more  kpete   Jun-16-07 06:00 PM   #2 
  - I agree  blayne   Jun-17-07 01:38 PM   #49 
  - Exactly! That's my main reason for getting after these bastards NOW...  warren pease   Jun-17-07 01:59 PM   #50 
     - Break the line of succession.  Gregorian   Jun-17-07 02:31 PM   #54 
  - No, no, no. There will be no impeachment unless there is a chance of conviction.  elocs   Jun-16-07 08:00 PM   #3 
  - Al Franken suggested impeaching him in early January 2009,  Qutzupalotl   Jun-16-07 08:14 PM   #6 
  - Al has a good sense of humor. I hope he becomes Wisconsin's 3rd senator  elocs   Jun-16-07 08:19 PM   #8 
  - Wisconsin's 3rd Senator lol  Connonym   Jun-17-07 11:29 AM   #41 
  - I would l ike to see the Dems do it, just to prove they can...Conviction or not!!!  BrklynLiberal   Jun-17-07 10:16 AM   #40 
  - How many independent, swing voting Americans do you think there are?  Vincardog   Jun-16-07 08:51 PM   #11 
  - Yes, exactly.  Usrename   Jun-17-07 05:19 AM   #25 
  - You got that right. We have to make them face the facts.  Vincardog   Jun-18-07 03:17 PM   #84 
  - and can you offer any support for your contention that there is no "middle"  onenote   Jun-17-07 08:19 AM   #35 
     - No one can prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you sir. The vast undecided independent  Vincardog   Jun-17-07 02:21 PM   #53 
        - that depends on what "your" side is  onenote   Jun-17-07 10:48 PM   #76 
           - AS to Ned do ya think it had anything to do with the DINO DLC support he received?  Vincardog   Jun-18-07 03:05 PM   #83 
  - Of course meaningless timetables with no teeth was serious? A "no confidence" vote  John Q. Citizen   Jun-17-07 12:44 PM   #42 
  - wronger words have never been typed. you ought to look into a career at the DLC  burythehatchet   Jun-17-07 04:19 PM   #66 
     - No, cowardice is name-calling, using buzz words to discredit somebody's opinion.  elocs   Jun-17-07 04:35 PM   #68 
        - I'm sorry  burythehatchet   Jun-17-07 04:41 PM   #70 
  - I could get behind that, just so the history books might reflect what an  babylonsister   Jun-16-07 08:08 PM   #4 
  - if the effort is truly one without a chance in hell of a conviction  bigtree   Jun-17-07 06:40 AM   #27 
     - its beyond me that you just know for a fact there can/will be no conviction  madokie   Jun-17-07 07:10 AM   #28 
        - the premise of the OP is to impeach 'no matter what the outcome may be'  bigtree   Jun-17-07 07:20 AM   #29 
           - Just what do you propose we do  madokie   Jun-17-07 07:29 AM   #30 
              - I've got eyes and ears  bigtree   Jun-17-07 07:48 AM   #32 
                 - what frustrates me is saying we shouldn't because we don't have the votes  madokie   Jun-17-07 07:53 AM   #33 
                    - well, the votes are part of it - the most important part, in my view  bigtree   Jun-17-07 08:16 AM   #34 
                       - I think we are totally on different pages  madokie   Jun-17-07 08:24 AM   #36 
                       - this is the problem madokie: folks getting ragged on for having reservations  bigtree   Jun-17-07 08:48 AM   #37 
                          - Have you read HR333? It contains specific charges. Go read it if you haven't already.  John Q. Citizen   Jun-17-07 12:53 PM   #44 
                          - I've got my own set of charges, but there haven't been any presented  bigtree   Jun-17-07 03:01 PM   #57 
                          - What madokie is suggesting is that the system might actually work.  IMModerate   Jun-17-07 01:19 PM   #47 
                          - I want to know how any process will affect the goals we have set out  bigtree   Jun-17-07 03:18 PM   #60 
                             - A good question. Legislation is blocked by the Senate...  IMModerate   Jun-17-07 04:22 PM   #67 
                                - also,  bigtree   Jun-17-07 04:39 PM   #69 
                                   - OK, let's test it out.  IMModerate   Jun-17-07 06:46 PM   #72 
                                      - I think that the legislative process isn't as static as you think  bigtree   Jun-17-07 07:51 PM   #73 
                          - "DU Orthodoxy"--now that term says it all. I'll have to remember that one.  elocs   Jun-17-07 11:52 PM   #79 
                       - No Confidence, if passed would have effected what? Toothless timetables would have done  John Q. Citizen   Jun-17-07 12:51 PM   #43 
                          - I don't think you have any ground at all to distinguish a process that doesn't intend to convict  bigtree   Jun-17-07 03:10 PM   #58 
                             - The pace isn't the issue. Condi is ignoring her subpoena at the same pace  John Q. Citizen   Jun-17-07 11:16 PM   #78 
  - I fully agree.  Qutzupalotl   Jun-16-07 08:11 PM   #5 
  - I'll put it on my wish list, right next to winning the Powerball tonight.  karlrschneider   Jun-16-07 08:14 PM   #7 
  - "Most of whom just sit on their fat asses"--  wienerdoggie   Jun-16-07 10:49 PM   #18 
     - madokie turns to look and guess what, no fat ass here  madokie   Jun-17-07 07:31 AM   #31 
  - Impeachment without conviction is a positive step.  hootinholler   Jun-16-07 08:35 PM   #9 
  - Another good reason for impeachment Hoot... you stated:  lyonn   Jun-16-07 11:53 PM   #21 
  - Impeach them all. After open public thorough investigations and the highlighting their  Vincardog   Jun-16-07 08:47 PM   #10 
  - I think the GOP knew  Mz Pip   Jun-16-07 08:52 PM   #12 
  - And the impeachment of Clinton worked in so far as  JDPriestly   Jun-17-07 02:18 PM   #52 
  - Why is this still even a debate?  walldude   Jun-16-07 08:58 PM   #13 
  - Don't forget the fact that they "receive" contributions, BIG ...  Amonester   Jun-16-07 10:45 PM   #17 
  - (I forgot to add:) never. Until the day contributions will be regulated  Amonester   Jun-16-07 10:56 PM   #20 
  - DLC doesn't want Bush to be impeached  notsodumbhillbilly   Jun-17-07 12:59 PM   #46 
  - Absolutely agree.  Vidar   Jun-16-07 09:05 PM   #14 
  - Agree, if not now when?  mirrera   Jun-16-07 09:36 PM   #15 
  - Agree completely. Get the goddamn ball rolling before it's too late--  wienerdoggie   Jun-16-07 10:52 PM   #19 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Jun-16-07 09:40 PM   #16 
  - Impeach, indict. Say goodbye, it's time to go!  sfexpat2000   Jun-17-07 12:00 AM   #22 
  - HELL YES!!!! I'm sorry I don't remember who said it here - deep apologies  calimary   Jun-17-07 12:45 AM   #23 
  - Yes! Failure to impeach is a tacit admission that the system does not work!  IMModerate   Jun-17-07 01:30 PM   #48 
     - That's exactly right. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jun-17-07 10:55 PM   #77 
  - the first rule of politics is self-preservation . . . when the evidence is presented . . .  OneBlueSky   Jun-17-07 03:28 AM   #24 
  - if one occurs, it won't be some omnibus collection of charges  bigtree   Jun-17-07 06:02 AM   #26 
  - I say we need to cover all the bases to stop the destruction of America.  lonestarnot   Jun-17-07 09:11 AM   #38 
  - The radical Republicans failed to convict Andrew Johnson but they crippled his presidency.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-17-07 09:52 AM   #39 
  - Yes, the modernday equivalent of a 'tarring and feathering' as you can get nt  EVDebs   Jun-17-07 12:58 PM   #45 
  - It will move the focus from the Republican candidate in 2008  JDPriestly   Jun-17-07 02:14 PM   #51 
  - I agree completely  NotGonnaTakeIt   Jun-17-07 02:52 PM   #55 
  - Would you take an unsuccessful impeachment now over a successful one later?  EstimatedProphet   Jun-17-07 02:57 PM   #56 
  - Yes because it would bring them to a screeching halt until 2008  ThomWV   Jun-17-07 03:29 PM   #61 
     - That's where we have our disagreement then  EstimatedProphet   Jun-17-07 08:55 PM   #74 
  - Ummm,...that didn't work out so well, last time. Convictions are NECESSARY, this time.  sicksicksick_N_tired   Jun-17-07 03:12 PM   #59 
  - I say jump on it  libodem   Jun-17-07 04:07 PM   #62 
  - I agree -- it is clear only impeachment will stop this war (nt)  AtomicKitten   Jun-17-07 04:09 PM   #63 
  - I see no reason to avoid impeachment proceedings  Canuckistanian   Jun-17-07 04:14 PM   #64 
  - "legally, impeachment is a slam dunk"? What does that mean?  onenote   Jun-18-07 11:47 AM   #80 
     - I meant "the case for impeachment" is a slam dunk  Canuckistanian   Jun-18-07 12:10 PM   #82 
  - Investigate, then impeach  sampsonblk   Jun-17-07 04:16 PM   #65 
  - Excellent. Release the Hounds.  bjobotts   Jun-17-07 04:49 PM   #71 
  - What's the worst that can happen?  Sarah Ibarruri   Jun-17-07 10:12 PM   #75 
     - several things  onenote   Jun-18-07 11:50 AM   #81 

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