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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 08:48 AM
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17. Yet the Republicans used the filibuster, even though they opposed its use before.
Republicans would say, "That was then, this is now." If the Democrats are as ineffectual as they appear, then it bodes ill for '08. If the Democrats only appear to be ineffectual, then what is their problem? Why is it that the Republicans seem so in-your-face in charge when they have any kind of majority and even in the minority they "take no prisoners", but Democrats cower, unable to do anything regardless of who has the majority? If this is just a PR problem, then we have the wrong Democrats in charge...
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  -What does the no-confidence failure say about our ability to remove Bush through impeachment? GOTV  Jun-12-07 08:26 AM   #0 
  - Most of the Dems in Congress are just thinking about ....  rfranklin   Jun-12-07 08:28 AM   #1 
  - except "most of the Dems in Congress" voted for the no-confidence resolution  onenote   Jun-12-07 11:04 AM   #34 
  - I'm inclined to believe if we were to have the trial where all the evidence is layed on the table  madokie   Jun-12-07 08:30 AM   #2 
  - The evidence on Gonzo was laid out. Everyone agreed he was bad. Where are the votes? n/t  GOTV   Jun-12-07 09:00 AM   #20 
     - Well not really  madokie   Jun-12-07 09:23 AM   #26 
     - What's "not really"? The evidence wasn't laid out? Or he wasn't already opposed?....  GOTV   Jun-12-07 10:04 AM   #29 
     - The votes for what, exactly? A "no-confidence" vote is meaningless in our system  JHB   Jun-12-07 10:24 AM   #32 
        - Not in our media "system" n/t  GOTV   Jun-12-07 12:40 PM   #45 
  - Nothing, really. A "no confidence" vote is a meaningless, made up, copied tool. We don't do that  MADem   Jun-12-07 08:31 AM   #3 
  - Yes, plus (and it's a BIG +) non-stop m$m "news" reporting of all ...  Amonester   Jun-12-07 11:44 AM   #41 
  - Maybe after '08, with a Democratic President, we can finally impeach Bush!  Dhalgren   Jun-12-07 08:33 AM   #4 
  - :-) / 2. (NT)  Tesha   Jun-12-07 08:36 AM   #7 
  - When and if we get a Democratic President....  peace13   Jun-12-07 08:43 AM   #15 
  - Ah yes, the famous battle cry of the Democrats.."The votes aren't there"  Toots   Jun-12-07 08:34 AM   #5 
  - Is the statement incorrect?  Vash the Stampede   Jun-12-07 08:36 AM   #8 
  - How do you know if it is correct or not if you don't try?  Toots   Jun-12-07 08:39 AM   #12 
     - Because they lobby.  Vash the Stampede   Jun-12-07 08:40 AM   #13 
        - Lot to lose.... like maybe the US Constitution  Toots   Jun-12-07 08:47 AM   #16 
           - Ahh, good, I see you've decided to bust out the melodrama.  Vash the Stampede   Jun-12-07 09:00 AM   #21 
  - The other option is not to venture nothing.... maybe that's why you're shrugging your shoulders n/t  GOTV   Jun-12-07 09:02 AM   #22 
     - That is indeed one other option and one I wish they would accommodate  Toots   Jun-12-07 03:08 PM   #49 
  - More interesting question: Why were we so ineffective at blocking Alito and Roberts?  Tesha   Jun-12-07 08:35 AM   #6 
  - Did you forget the whole "nuclear" saga?  Vash the Stampede   Jun-12-07 08:37 AM   #10 
  - Yet the Republicans used the filibuster, even though they opposed its use before.  Dhalgren   Jun-12-07 08:48 AM   #17 
     - Uhm, I hate to point this out to you, but...  Vash the Stampede   Jun-12-07 08:59 AM   #19 
        - Those "tactics" had nothing to do with the Republicans loss of the majority.  Dhalgren   Jun-12-07 09:11 AM   #24 
        - That's exactly right Vash, we should not use their vindictive playbook. nt  MookieWilson   Jun-12-07 09:55 AM   #28 
  - "Patriot Act 1" was during the bush* personality cult  TheBorealAvenger   Jun-12-07 08:42 AM   #14 
     - Yeah it was tough. And we weren't. We were "go-along wimps".  Tesha   Jun-12-07 10:52 AM   #33 
        - Are you forgetting that Patriot Act I was passed when most of the  napi21   Jun-12-07 11:13 AM   #35 
           - A little leadership (from our side) might have helped aleviate the fear. (NT)  Tesha   Jun-12-07 11:43 AM   #40 
              - I really believe that's playing monday morning QB!  napi21   Jun-12-07 12:02 PM   #44 
                 - You're only saying that because I've been saying the same thing since...  Tesha   Jun-12-07 08:10 PM   #50 
  - i would be more impressed with subpoenas for Rove and little lord pissy pants, and harriet!!  flyarm   Jun-12-07 08:36 AM   #9 
  - Right on....  Bandit   Jun-12-07 10:20 AM   #31 
  - Bush could be caught on film strangling an orphan while sodomizing a goat,  11 Bravo   Jun-12-07 08:37 AM   #11 
  - A LOT. There are not enough votes to justify the long process. Lean on your Repubs! nt  MookieWilson   Jun-12-07 08:59 AM   #18 
  - what Feingold said, we don't have the votes to prosecute  bigtree   Jun-12-07 09:03 AM   #23 
  - Uh, that our "majority" needs to be larger in numbers?!!1 Just guessing!!1 n/t  UTUSN   Jun-12-07 09:13 AM   #25 
  - I'd settle for the complete utter destruction of the Republican Party  DinahMoeHum   Jun-12-07 09:41 AM   #27 
  - It says we are way long on rhetoric, way short on guts! n/t  RiverStone   Jun-12-07 10:14 AM   #30 
  - I don't care  Johonny   Jun-12-07 11:16 AM   #36 
  - So, you see no benefit in what the Senate Dems did?  sfexpat2000   Jun-12-07 11:18 AM   #37 
  - I see Gonzo still in office and a Senate leadership not able to reach their goals n/t  GOTV   Jun-12-07 12:50 PM   #46 
     - I guess I don't expect big flashy gains but smaller, solid ones  sfexpat2000   Jun-12-07 02:23 PM   #48 
  - It's telling me that it's up to us  catmandu57   Jun-12-07 11:23 AM   #38 
  - It Says Nothing Really. There Was Zero Chance Of Removing Bush Before It And Zero Chance Afterwards  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-12-07 11:32 AM   #39 
     - You little freeper you.  Rosemary2205   Jun-12-07 11:46 AM   #42 
     - LOL Silly, Ain't It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-12-07 12:02 PM   #43 
     - Well, I was looking to see if impeachment hawks were moved at all by the failure....  GOTV   Jun-12-07 12:52 PM   #47 

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