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Mon Jun-11-07 06:07 PM
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| 12. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm curious.... |
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I remember hearing that there was mercury in the vaccine, and that was the autism connection. Is that incorrect?
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| -Court set to weigh vaccine link to autism |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 11:42 AM |
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Nothing can dissuade a true believer |
Warpy |
Jun-11-07 11:54 AM |
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Yep |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 12:46 PM |
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I hope that people like yourself with watch and learn something vs. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 12:56 PM |
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Another Scopes Monkey Trial, eh? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-11-07 11:55 AM |
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No, it's another Vioxx type lawsuit. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 12:58 PM |
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Calling Doctor Frist! |
blogslut |
Jun-11-07 11:57 AM |
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oh, gawwwwwd! |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-11-07 12:25 PM |
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Thanks for that link... |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 01:43 PM |
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kick |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 03:26 PM |
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I fear that the effect of this case, |
asthmaticeog |
Jun-11-07 04:37 PM |
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What about the kids who die from vaccination "for no good reason?" |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:01 PM |
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All medications and vaccinations should be made as safe as possible.... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-12-07 02:01 PM |
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I take issue with your statements. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 02:24 PM |
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great. courts determining validity of science. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-11-07 04:48 PM |
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BUT...courts DO have the ability to hear out scientists and make informed decisions. n/t |
live love laugh |
Jun-11-07 09:35 PM |
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Yes, but Judges are just college educated with generally no background in science. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-11-07 11:39 PM |
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Oh no don't worry, money will continue to determine the validity of science. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:03 PM |
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There are enough doctors and scientists not in the pockets of big pharma who do these studies. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-12-07 02:58 PM |
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Sure there are and many have indicated what happens to grant money if the |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 03:04 PM |
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Once again this either/or mentality |
Karenina |
Jun-11-07 06:00 PM |
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But the question |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 06:02 PM |
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I agree with you. |
Karenina |
Jun-11-07 06:09 PM |
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Check out this site and my post below. I lived it, still do. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 06:25 PM |
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I'm sorry you're dealing with this. |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 08:56 PM |
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Did you READ anything on the web site I posted the link to? |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 09:05 PM |
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Sorry |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 09:10 PM |
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"Mercury is a neurotoxin" - Read the first sentence and tell me what evidence |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:07 PM |
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Mercury based thimerosal removed from contact lense solution |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jun-12-07 01:12 PM |
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And it was removed from animal vaccines long before human vaccines. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:15 PM |
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The question is why is mercury considered "safe" if it's in a vaccine but not in fish? |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:08 PM |
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Thank you, I could not agree more. (Asperger mom here) |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 06:10 PM |
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Our pediatrician was a Santa Monica "celebrity" dude. |
Karenina |
Jun-11-07 07:38 PM |
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Oh my, I'm so sorry. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:37 PM |
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm curious.... |
Edweird |
Jun-11-07 06:07 PM |
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Here is a great web site for you- |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 06:24 PM |
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There used to be |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 08:19 PM |
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IF you had read anything on the link I posted- sorry if science is hard for you- |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 09:31 PM |
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I have read a lot of articles regarding this |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 09:36 PM |
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Get back to me when you hold YOUR child in your arms and she stops breathing. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 09:43 PM |
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appeal to emotion |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 09:47 PM |
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Science on the link between Pertussis and ADR in infants. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 10:35 PM |
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show me the |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 10:40 PM |
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I have a very sweet 13 y/o "dog" in this fight. |
K8-EEE |
Jun-11-07 11:46 PM |
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No disrespect intended. I was not in any way comparing children to dogs, |
Edweird |
Jun-11-07 11:50 PM |
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There are people who will tell you that we are "hysterical" for thinking |
K8-EEE |
Jun-11-07 11:55 PM |
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I just posted an article about how there is poison toothpaste here in America. |
Edweird |
Jun-12-07 12:00 AM |
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Amen sister. And MOST of all- |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 12:06 AM |
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And bravo to you for doing so. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:39 PM |
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Oh I know, it's OK!! |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 12:00 AM |
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"parents of kids with autism are so kooky and hysterical" |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:41 PM |
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THANK YOU! I too, had that experience. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 11:52 PM |
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Blessings to you as well |
K8-EEE |
Jun-11-07 11:58 PM |
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I KNOW the feeling. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 12:03 AM |
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Well, she is autistic, not aspie. |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 12:37 AM |
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Are you using ABA with her? Many have had great success with ABA. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 12:46 AM |
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You can't ABA, chelate, or supplement autism away... |
Feron |
Jun-12-07 08:18 PM |
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Forgot to say... do not assume that she did not notice you- |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 12:51 AM |
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Yes I have had that experience many times! |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 01:11 AM |
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Are you familiar with ABA and the research on supplements and autism? |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 01:17 AM |
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The same thing happened to my best friends daughter |
alittlelark |
Jun-12-07 12:56 AM |
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ding, ding, ding: "billions could be lost in lawsuits due to thimerosal aka MERCURY" |
Duppers |
Jun-17-07 07:09 AM |
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In a related story-also a connection between coal energy plants and autism |
w8liftinglady |
Jun-11-07 06:29 PM |
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A lot of mercury (aka thimerisol) is belched out of those plants. |
alittlelark |
Jun-12-07 01:07 AM |
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This case shouldn't be the deciding factor |
Canuckistanian |
Jun-11-07 08:28 PM |
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"...anti-thimerosal fanatics..."???? !!!!! nt |
live love laugh |
Jun-11-07 09:32 PM |
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What's so shocking? |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 09:51 PM |
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You are quite misinformed. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 10:40 PM |
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OK |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-11-07 10:44 PM |
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Tell me what you think autism is- |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 11:21 PM |
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And I have read up on it |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-12-07 12:08 AM |
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I am not sorry- my kid is WONDERFUL, now would you please provide some links |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 12:21 AM |
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Where were the "peer reviewed" studies on tobacco |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 12:04 AM |
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EXACTLY! As IF the pharma funded studies are going to allow this info out? |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 12:10 AM |
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Please be reasonable.... |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 12:23 AM |
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Uh-huh! WHAT was I thinking? |
BeHereNow |
Jun-12-07 12:25 AM |
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You seem to KNOW that it's OK to give mercury to infants. |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 12:06 AM |
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Well, don't believe us then. |
K8-EEE |
Jun-11-07 11:52 PM |
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I've got your back K8-EEE- the op knows NOTHING about it. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 11:57 PM |
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Sorry |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-12-07 08:35 PM |
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Please explain the rise in autism. n/t |
rucky |
Jun-11-07 10:38 PM |
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There are several reasons: |
JohnLocke |
Jun-12-07 12:18 AM |
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Growing up our family never knew anyone with autism, but now... |
Marrah_G |
Jun-11-07 11:30 PM |
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A woman in my neighborhood is an expert in the field- |
BeHereNow |
Jun-11-07 11:40 PM |
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Your post mirrors the opinion of scientists who feel there is a link. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 12:54 PM |
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Here comes the people telling you it's all about diagnostics. |
K8-EEE |
Jun-11-07 11:49 PM |
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Many of them were diagnosed as 'mentally handicapped' 30 years ago |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-12-07 12:34 PM |
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Perinatal problems are a risk factor for autism (e.g. prematurity; low birthweight)... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-12-07 12:31 PM |
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Cue up the "hysterical parents" accusations! Ooops they already did. |
K8-EEE |
Jun-11-07 11:44 PM |
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Ah yes and lest we not forget "anti-science nut jobs." |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 01:43 PM |
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Parents are Right |
Savannah_H |
Jun-12-07 01:42 AM |
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I am with you on that - which is why I waited with all my kids till they were older |
The Straight Story |
Jun-12-07 02:06 AM |
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I didn't even question it |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 02:28 AM |
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and if they had a bowel movement at |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-12-07 12:24 PM |
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Here's A Site Who's "Science" MonkeyFunk Would Approve Of |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 02:25 AM |
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Here we go again.... |
CraftyGal |
Jun-12-07 03:17 AM |
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I'm glad to see the bullshit up front anyhow. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 12:51 PM |
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Epidemiology trumps toxicology |
Sorwen |
Jun-12-07 01:47 PM |
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Who's epidemiological evidence? |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 02:28 PM |
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Scientists', as reported in peer-reviewed journals |
Sorwen |
Jun-12-07 03:08 PM |
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We could post dueling studies all day. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 04:09 PM |
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Do those studies cite a cause? |
Sorwen |
Jun-12-07 04:24 PM |
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Read the article. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 04:28 PM |
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I'm sure you can find a handful of contrary studies |
Sorwen |
Jun-12-07 03:48 PM |
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Consensus is purchased regarding the denial of global warming and harm from vaccination. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 03:51 PM |
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? |
Sorwen |
Jun-12-07 04:15 PM |
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I'm suggesting that science surrounding the drug approval process is |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 04:27 PM |
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do you believe |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-12-07 08:44 PM |
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I believe that those who fund studies own the data and can publish |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 10:08 PM |
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You didn't answer any of my questions |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-12-07 10:43 PM |
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Sure I did. |
mzmolly |
Jun-12-07 10:45 PM |
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No, you really didn't. |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-13-07 03:50 AM |
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Are you familiar with the scientist who developed the HPV vaccine? |
mzmolly |
Jun-13-07 11:11 AM |
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Consensus is purchased about denial of harm from global warming? |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-13-07 05:03 AM |
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No, "denial of harm" is purchased in both cases. |
mzmolly |
Jun-13-07 11:13 AM |
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Try to get into daycare or school without the vaccine. |
upi402 |
Jun-12-07 10:47 PM |
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My question is why do people have to be such dicks about it. |
K8-EEE |
Jun-12-07 11:59 PM |
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I didn't say anything like |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-13-07 12:33 AM |
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