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The Inquisitive Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 12:49 PM
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96. You're right
I was about to begin explaining it to the posters that asked but it isn't worth trying to explain something that can be seen as relatively subtle unless you actually have a bit of experience in the field to people who are looking to argue tooth and nail about it. Nothing is more frustrating to me when people manipulate and ignore scientific conclusions to fit a particular ideological point of view.

I hate to bring up yet another touchy question here on DU, but I've also noticed any scientific study that doesn't support the hypothesis that homosexuality is genetic, or chemical in nature and considers psychological origins is regarded with immediate and highly critical skepticism. While I suspect based off of my pool of knowledge that it is indeed genetic or chemical in origin I can't stand scientific skepticism based on normative values. The world is what it is, and we need to see it for that before change can be affected. Denying a scentific finding doesn't mean it isn't true.

Once again, thanks for the heads up.

For those that are inquisitive about the basics of biology I hold onto my textbook from the two intro courses I took just to make sure I remain familar with the basics. It's called "Biology" authored by Neil A. Campbell, and Jane B. Reece. I find it to be a relatively useful resource that gives the average guy a decent foundation in the basics of biology.
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  -Is abortion (the act of it) immoral? StudentsMustUniteNow  Jun-11-07 10:41 AM   #0 
  - What is morality?  Bonobo   Jun-11-07 10:42 AM   #1 
  - What we believe it to be  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 10:43 AM   #2 
  - There's your answer.  Bonobo   Jun-11-07 10:47 AM   #10 
  - That was going to be my question.  SteelPenguin   Jun-11-07 10:48 AM   #12 
     - Is pre-emptive war immoral? Make that into a relative and not  WiseButAngrySara   Jun-11-07 11:19 AM   #46 
        - To you it's immoral  SteelPenguin   Jun-11-07 12:06 PM   #70 
  - Is treating a woman like a second-class citizen moral?  Vickers   Jun-11-07 10:44 AM   #3 
  - That wasn't my question  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 10:46 AM   #7 
  - I has everything to do with politics  blogslut   Jun-11-07 10:56 AM   #21 
  - I'm just trying to get you to put your question in context.  Vickers   Jun-11-07 11:11 AM   #42 
  - Are WE?  fudge stripe cookays   Jun-11-07 11:38 AM   #56 
  - has nothing to do with that  qazplm   Jun-11-07 10:58 AM   #22 
  - I'm simply trying to get some context from the OP.  Vickers   Jun-11-07 11:12 AM   #43 
  - That's the real crux of this issue, isn't it?  kineta   Jun-11-07 11:18 AM   #45 
  - both could be considered immoral  The Inquisitive   Jun-11-07 11:06 AM   #34 
  - Depends on your personal outlook  hobbit709   Jun-11-07 10:44 AM   #4 
  - That's what the anti abortion movement wants you to think  liberal N proud   Jun-11-07 10:45 AM   #5 
  - It's a medical procedure.  shain from kane   Jun-11-07 10:45 AM   #6 
  - Thank you.  Kerrytravelers   Jun-11-07 11:05 AM   #33 
  - Yes. nt  FLDem5   Jun-11-07 04:54 PM   #164 
  - It's less immoral than forcing a woman to give birth.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 10:46 AM   #8 
  - One can also say that the fetus isn't a human life...nt  SidDithers   Jun-11-07 10:46 AM   #9 
  - Just curious...how?  AngryOldDem   Jun-11-07 11:35 AM   #53 
  - Is my sperm a human life?  Alcibiades   Jun-11-07 01:29 PM   #104 
  - so after 8 weeks, it's a human life, but not before?  bettyellen   Jun-11-07 07:04 PM   #218 
  - From the standpoint of biology it obviously is  dmesg   Jun-11-07 06:44 PM   #207 
  - Who gets to judge that? You?  dogday   Jun-11-07 10:47 AM   #11 
  - No. I'm asking you whether you believe it to be immoral  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 10:49 AM   #14 
  - No. Abortion is not immoral.  peacebird   Jun-11-07 10:52 AM   #19 
  - There is no big deal, my answer spoke for itself  dogday   Jun-11-07 10:54 AM   #20 
     - everyone gets to judge what is immoral  qazplm   Jun-11-07 11:03 AM   #30 
        - Yes, I don't believe in judging others  dogday   Jun-11-07 11:10 AM   #41 
        - sure you do  qazplm   Jun-11-07 11:35 AM   #54 
        - Sorry don't agree with your premise  dogday   Jun-11-07 11:43 AM   #59 
        - No judgment on Bush and Cheney?  hiaasenrocks   Jun-11-07 06:33 PM   #205 
           - As people no, as politicians, they work for me---  dogday   Jun-11-07 06:55 PM   #216 
        - "yes to immoral and yes to pro-choice."  LBJDemocrat   Jun-11-07 11:23 AM   #49 
           - I Had an Abortion and I AM NOT IMMORAL!!  Madspirit   Jun-11-07 04:43 PM   #153 
           - That is an interesting stance.  ManiacJoe   Jun-11-07 06:57 PM   #217 
              - My definition:  LBJDemocrat   Jun-11-07 07:52 PM   #222 
  - THIS IS THE KEY QUESTION ! Thanks for posting it dogday  EVDebs   Jun-11-07 11:14 AM   #44 
  - ...  blogslut   Jun-11-07 10:49 AM   #13 
  - As specified in Roe v. Wade, i.e., first trimester?  bunkerbuster1   Jun-11-07 10:49 AM   #15 
  - Is blood transfusion (the act of it) immoral? Is tonsillectomy (the act of it) immoral?  Czolgosz   Jun-11-07 10:50 AM   #16 
  - I think the act of politicizing it (abortion) is immoral  Merlot   Jun-11-07 10:50 AM   #17 
  - No FUCKING Way!  stirlingsliver   Jun-11-07 10:51 AM   #18 
  - I was adopted. My brother and sister were adopted.  bryant69   Jun-11-07 11:01 AM   #26 
     - I'm glad your mother chose to preserve your life.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 12:29 PM   #83 
     - You don't have the right to kill your children!  Alcibiades   Jun-11-07 01:38 PM   #108 
     - Yes but you are confusing the issue as well  bryant69   Jun-11-07 02:21 PM   #114 
     - Exactly. It is the great moral issue of our time and quite disturbing  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 02:45 PM   # 
     - "pro-abortion industry"  Scout   Jun-11-07 02:58 PM   #124 
        - Yes, abortion industry. It consists of abortion clinics  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 03:15 PM   #134 
           - Oh pshaw.  uppityperson   Jun-11-07 09:19 PM   #238 
           - Good money?  Az   Jun-11-07 09:22 PM   #240 
     - What a woman "should" choose  Karenina   Jun-11-07 08:14 PM   #227 
     - I don't know why I have to keep repeating this.  bryant69   Jun-11-07 09:22 PM   #241 
     - Well now, you do have a point.  quantessd   Jun-11-07 09:52 PM   #245 
     - Au contraire, being a biologist has sharpened my awareness  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 03:03 PM   #129 
        - Planned Parenthood "doesn't make it a high priority to help women avoid unintended pregnancies"?????  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 05:13 PM   #176 
        - I've been reading what you write and this one takes the cake  uppityperson   Jun-11-07 09:26 PM   #242 
        - Exactly  Alcibiades   Jun-12-07 12:13 AM   #247 
     - Wow. Nice river of patronizing crap. I'm glad my mother has the right to control her own body.  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 05:04 PM   #170 
     - "an embryo is alive and human", does this mean an embryo is a human?  uppityperson   Jun-11-07 09:17 PM   #237 
     - Abortion Is A Medical Procedure  stirlingsliver   Jun-11-07 12:36 PM   #93 
     - A medical procedure that had my mother chosen to undergo  bryant69   Jun-11-07 01:35 PM   #106 
     - If My Parents Had Not Met, I Would Not Be Here, Either?  stirlingsliver   Jun-11-07 02:43 PM   #117 
     - I don't really know how to respond to that without being offensive  bryant69   Jun-11-07 02:58 PM   #126 
        - A form of birth control?  blogslut   Jun-11-07 03:53 PM   #141 
           - I'm done talking about this - you are free to do what you like  bryant69   Jun-11-07 05:16 PM   #181 
           - What percentage is due to rape, incest, life of the mother?  hiaasenrocks   Jun-11-07 06:35 PM   #206 
     - so what's your point?  Scout   Jun-11-07 02:59 PM   #127 
        - I guess my point is that the poster I was responding to  bryant69   Jun-11-07 03:40 PM   #139 
     - How does morality not apply to medicine?  dmesg   Jun-11-07 06:45 PM   #208 
     - You were adopted after you were born  Alcibiades   Jun-11-07 01:33 PM   #105 
     - Probably are  bryant69   Jun-11-07 01:36 PM   #107 
     - I was adopted. My brother was adopted. I fully support abortion.  Maddy McCall   Jun-11-07 02:54 PM   #121 
     - My mother was adopted. She is very pro-choice.  Kerrytravelers   Jun-11-07 04:52 PM   #163 
     - You are speaking of forced birth.  Lars39   Jun-11-07 03:11 PM   #131 
        - Again read the context of this discussion  bryant69   Jun-11-07 05:18 PM   #182 
  - No.  Bridget Burke   Jun-11-07 10:59 AM   #23 
  - That's an uncomfortable quesetion  bryant69   Jun-11-07 11:00 AM   #24 
  - I agree n/t  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 11:03 AM   #28 
  - a good answer  qazplm   Jun-11-07 11:06 AM   #35 
  - Well put.  spoony   Jun-11-07 04:33 PM   #146 
  - WTF do you need to know about MY morality?  aquart   Jun-11-07 11:00 AM   #25 
  - Morality can't be legislated, as they say.  petersjo02   Jun-11-07 11:02 AM   #27 
  - Notice the original topic and what I ask. I'm asking about personal morality  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 11:03 AM   #29 
     - Isn't personal morality, personal?  blogslut   Jun-11-07 11:06 AM   #36 
        - Ok here goes  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 11:08 AM   #38 
           - And now you know  blogslut   Jun-11-07 11:10 AM   #40 
           - because  qazplm   Jun-11-07 11:36 AM   #55 
              - I guess  blogslut   Jun-11-07 11:45 AM   #60 
           - Where do you stand on the death penalty?  Beaverhausen   Jun-11-07 11:21 AM   #48 
           - Against. Also against war and euthanasia.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 03:52 PM   #140 
           - Would you be bothered by meeting a woman who had an abortion and has no moral qualms about it? n/t  Iris   Jun-11-07 12:27 PM   #80 
           - No. If someone told me she was going to have an abortion,  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 03:57 PM   #142 
              - interesting that you say that because I don't necessarily see something human when I see a sonogram  Iris   Jun-11-07 05:19 PM   #183 
              - Is this a tiny human being?  uppityperson   Jun-11-07 09:35 PM   #243 
           - You're wrong. An embryo is not yet a human life  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-11-07 01:22 PM   #102 
           - It is ALWAYS to preserve another life  Madspirit   Jun-11-07 07:55 PM   #226 
  - no it is not.  lionesspriyanka   Jun-11-07 11:04 AM   #31 
  - Better question  Jim4Wes   Jun-11-07 11:04 AM   #32 
  - Moral and immoral...  Hunter_1253   Jun-11-07 11:08 AM   #37 
  - No, We Cannot Agree on This.  stirlingsliver   Jun-11-07 12:45 PM   #95 
  - The Bible does not condemn it, even though abortion was practiced in those days.  Lasher   Jun-11-07 11:09 AM   #39 
  - No. Reproductive slavery is immoral. Forced childbearing is immoral.  kestrel91316   Jun-11-07 11:19 AM   #47 
  - An impossible question that depends on the definition of "morality"  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-11-07 11:23 AM   #50 
  - Is there a sale on or something?  lukasahero   Jun-11-07 11:29 AM   #51 
  - Rather like the...  fudge stripe cookays   Jun-11-07 11:43 AM   #58 
  - Depends On Who You Ask. No Right Or Wrong Answer Of Course.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-11-07 11:31 AM   #52 
  - Please don't insult me?  Jim4Wes   Jun-11-07 11:41 AM   #57 
  - Morality is a personal determination. NT  mondo joe   Jun-11-07 11:47 AM   #61 
  - Cancer is human life too.  Sapere aude   Jun-11-07 11:47 AM   #62 
  - That is complete bullshit. Cancer is an abnormal growth of cells.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 11:51 AM   #65 
  - He's right, it's human life.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 11:52 AM   #67 
  - Question  The Inquisitive   Jun-11-07 12:20 PM   #74 
  - why don't you just explain it?  Iris   Jun-11-07 12:23 PM   #77 
  - Of course I know the difference.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 12:27 PM   #81 
  - Trust Me; Don't Even Bother. It Ain't Worth It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-11-07 12:34 PM   #89 
     - You're right  The Inquisitive   Jun-11-07 12:49 PM   #96 
        - Here's a DU point of view for you: I don't CARE whether homosexuality is genetic or a "choice".  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 01:09 PM   #99 
        - Yes, and  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 03:36 PM   #138 
           - I believe it was someone putting the boot of fact up the ass of some Intelligent Design Dipshit  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 04:47 PM   #159 
  - Cancer is not human life. It is an abnormal growth on or within a human. nt  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 12:35 PM   #90 
     - Sure it is.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 12:39 PM   #94 
     - Saying it over and over does not make it so.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 03:26 PM   #136 
        - You've got degrees in biology?  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 05:06 PM   #171 
           - Cockroaches aren't human. But they sure are alive  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 07:48 PM   #220 
     - Why is it "abnormal?"  Maddy McCall   Jun-11-07 02:58 PM   #125 
  - Really? "lack of knowledge of biology" like thinking Terri Schiavo was going to spring out of bed?  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 12:19 PM   #73 
     - here is a bit  The Inquisitive   Jun-11-07 12:35 PM   #92 
        - Bottom line: Does the difference in "cellular behavior" between the gamete & the zygote  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 01:06 PM   #97 
        - Cellular biology is extremely subtle  The Inquisitive   Jun-11-07 04:41 PM   #149 
        - Yes, and from conception the traits of living organisms are seen,  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 02:35 PM   #115 
           - "A blueprint will not grow into a house or other building on its own."  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 04:50 PM   #162 
           - The distinction you make between the potential life & the already living, breathing woman, is key.  CrispyQGirl   Jun-11-07 05:33 PM   #189 
              - You know, I'm arguing with someone who says with a straight face that Planned Parenthood  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 06:09 PM   #197 
                 - That's almost as dumb...  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 06:48 PM   #211 
                 - Yeah, that one got me also. I think this one's mind is made up.  uppityperson   Jun-11-07 09:38 PM   #244 
           - a zygote grows " on it's own" ? Does it really now, or do you not know wtf you're talking about?  bettyellen   Jun-11-07 07:24 PM   #219 
           - "needing only energy added by the mother" ?? WTF  gollygee   Jun-11-07 07:55 PM   #225 
  - Really? If You Waited 9 Months, You Could Rock Your Cancer In Your Arms And Soothe It To Sleep?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-11-07 11:51 AM   #66 
  - You could do that with your sperm and an unfertilized egg, under the right circumstances.  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 12:20 PM   #75 
     - Seriously, Ya Think 99% Of The World's Population Finds This Premise Anything Other Than Ridiculous?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-11-07 12:31 PM   #85 
        - Of course it's ridiculous.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 12:35 PM   #91 
        - Glad I could amuse. Now read the HLA plank in the GOP platform, where single cells get rights under  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 01:10 PM   #100 
  - This is the crap that people  spoony   Jun-11-07 04:38 PM   #148 
  - Considering a cytoblast the equivalent of a human  junofeb   Jun-11-07 11:48 AM   #63 
  - Recent and STUPID. Only a complete IDIOT could believe an entity with no nervous system could  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-11-07 11:58 AM   #69 
  - Even if society were to take responsibility for all children, a woman has the right to determine  Iris   Jun-11-07 12:25 PM   #78 
  - In the 1800s, black people were not considered human.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-11-07 12:34 PM   #88 
     - And sperms, unfertilized eggs, fish and chicken STILL aren't considered human! Unbelievable!  impeachdubya   Jun-11-07 04:43 PM   #154 
  - It depends on who you ask  WI_DEM   Jun-11-07 11:51 AM   #64 
  - No, it is not immoral.  Old Broad   Jun-11-07 11:55 AM   #68 
  - I really don't know  slackmaster   Jun-11-07 12:08 PM   #71 
  - To some it is  johnnie   Jun-11-07 12:15 PM   #72 
  - Not to me. n/t  Iris   Jun-11-07 12:21 PM   #76 
  - I can't believe people are still asking this misogynist question in 2007. And:  BlueIris   Jun-11-07 12:26 PM   #79 
  - We're making a bouquet of Irises!  Iris   Jun-11-07 12:29 PM   #82 
  - Absolutely not.  philosophie_en_rose   Jun-11-07 12:30 PM   #84 
  - no, it's not immoral n/t  Scout   Jun-11-07 12:31 PM   #86 
  - If you didn't want to discuss it, why didn't you make a poll to satisfy  Lars39   Jun-11-07 12:32 PM   #87 
  - I don't think it's immoral, but if you do, by all means don't have one  gollygee   Jun-11-07 01:08 PM   #98 
  - Of course it's moral.  quantessd   Jun-11-07 01:11 PM   #101 
  - No it's not immoral.  Alcibiades   Jun-11-07 01:24 PM   #103 
  - You asked an open-ended question. You received very decisive answers.  Kerrytravelers   Jun-11-07 01:58 PM   #109 
  - No, the act of abortion is not immoral until a time when the fetus could survive without the  sinkingfeeling   Jun-11-07 02:11 PM   #110 
  - Push-polling on DU.  Zenlitened   Jun-11-07 02:17 PM   #111 
  - My personal feeling is yes, it troubles me.  JerseygirlCT   Jun-11-07 02:19 PM   #112 
  - YOUR question is insulting. The answer is NO.  Karenina   Jun-11-07 02:20 PM   #113 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-11-07 02:40 PM   #116 
  - LIFE Began a Long Time Ago  stirlingsliver   Jun-11-07 02:45 PM   #118 
  - Who really gives a shit about your personal beliefs?  Lars39   Jun-11-07 02:50 PM   #119 
  - Your question wasn't when life starts. It was whether abortion is immoral.  gollygee   Jun-11-07 02:54 PM   #122 
  - I didn't confuse the question. I specifically included "when life starts" to see whether it was nece  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 03:13 PM   #132 
     - You included your assumption about when life starts  gollygee   Jun-11-07 03:15 PM   #133 
  - The immaturity on this thread comes from you.  Maddy McCall   Jun-11-07 02:57 PM   #123 
  - A human life does not begin at conception. See this post:  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-11-07 04:31 PM   #145 
  - Flame-fucking-bait.  missb   Jun-11-07 04:42 PM   #150 
  - The OP Seems Perfectly Fine. If Anything, The Prospect Of Flame Bait Is Only To Do Those That  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-11-07 04:46 PM   #157 
  - You're 100% Correct. Don't Let Them Break You Down Though.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-11-07 04:43 PM   #155 
  - Thank you, and Thanks to Spoony too  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 04:47 PM   #160 
  - The collective demands not just acceptance  spoony   Jun-11-07 04:45 PM   #156 
  - And another male...  Lars39   Jun-11-07 04:54 PM   #165 
  - One needs to be a female to make a statement regarding abortion's morality?  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 04:56 PM   #166 
  - Women speaking out unashamedly about their own abortions  Lars39   Jun-11-07 05:04 PM   #169 
     - I said having an abortion is NOTHING to be PROUD of  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 05:07 PM   #172 
        - You are enforcing the connotation that abortion should be shameful.  Lars39   Jun-11-07 05:10 PM   #174 
        - False  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 05:14 PM   #177 
           - an analogy to drug addiction  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-11-07 05:39 PM   #191 
        - You Disrespect Every Woman Who Has Chosen To Have An Abortion!  stirlingsliver   Jun-11-07 05:39 PM   #192 
           - If you can't distinguish between a heart surgery and an abortion...  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 05:51 PM   #195 
              - Some people think heart surgery is immoral.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 06:10 PM   #198 
  - Yeah, and I'm not going to apologise for that either.  spoony   Jun-11-07 04:58 PM   #167 
     - It's very predictable.  Lars39   Jun-11-07 05:07 PM   #173 
     - Yes, they are.  spoony   Jun-11-07 05:12 PM   #175 
        - I meant the males coming out on choice threads.  Lars39   Jun-11-07 06:19 PM   #202 
     - LOL!  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-11-07 05:24 PM   #185 
  - 'We are ordered to celebrate it"  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 05:15 PM   #180 
  - Please, save your feigned and  spoony   Jun-11-07 05:20 PM   #184 
     - Wow.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 05:27 PM   #187 
     - It seems to you wrongly  spoony   Jun-11-07 05:34 PM   #190 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-11-07 09:12 PM   #235 
           - That's a really shitty thing to say.  Lars39   Jun-11-07 09:14 PM   #236 
              - I believe abortion should be safe, RARE, and legal  LBJDemocrat   Jun-11-07 09:21 PM   # 
     - Then you need to ignore such threads if it's all too much for you.  Lars39   Jun-11-07 06:30 PM   #204 
  - Exactly.  hiaasenrocks   Jun-11-07 06:17 PM   #199 
  - I tried to approach you in a non-combative post (see #109.)  Kerrytravelers   Jun-11-07 04:50 PM   #161 
  - You need to read better.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-11-07 05:14 PM   #178 
  - Was there a point to this post?  Firespirit   Jun-11-07 05:15 PM   #179 
  - Why?  Madspirit   Jun-11-07 05:28 PM   #188 
  - This thread is sick.  ddbaj   Jun-11-07 02:52 PM   #120 
  - You don't find ANY decision anyone makes about  spoony   Jun-11-07 04:47 PM   #158 
  - Because it's not just about her body  dmesg   Jun-11-07 06:50 PM   #213 
  - In the sense that you're using the word moral it becomes ambiguous  Lone_Star_Dem   Jun-11-07 03:00 PM   #128 
  - great reply  Old Broad   Jun-11-07 03:35 PM   #137 
     - Thank you  Lone_Star_Dem   Jun-11-07 06:52 PM   #214 
  - Under no circumstances would I EVER have one  RogueSpirit   Jun-11-07 03:05 PM   #130 
  - Is Lonnie Anderson's hair moral? n/t  H2O Man   Jun-11-07 03:17 PM   #135 
  - Is stepping on a poisonous spider immoral?  Karenina   Jun-11-07 04:42 PM   #151 
     - Is it caught  H2O Man   Jun-11-07 05:42 PM   #193 
        - The HAIRSPRAY is deadly!  Karenina   Jun-11-07 06:19 PM   #200 
           - Is Aqua Net immoral?  Lone_Star_Dem   Jun-11-07 06:48 PM   #210 
              - Won't anyone think of the OZONE LAYER???  Karenina   Jun-11-07 06:55 PM   #215 
                 - How about  H2O Man   Jun-11-07 08:39 PM   #228 
                    - H? Wasn't that DIPPITY-DOO?  Karenina   Jun-11-07 09:07 PM   #234 
                    - ROTF! That's the hair product that Cinderella preferred...  countryjake   Jun-12-07 03:56 AM   #250 
  - Like frigging glass  LostinVA   Jun-11-07 03:58 PM   #143 
  - Absolutely, positively NOT.  Firespirit   Jun-11-07 04:17 PM   #144 
  - Nope.  sleebarker   Jun-11-07 04:37 PM   #147 
  - No, to me, it is not immoral...not at all...  Madspirit   Jun-11-07 04:42 PM   #152 
  - no n/t  some guy   Jun-11-07 05:01 PM   #168 
  - The act of abortion is immoral  tammywammy   Jun-11-07 05:24 PM   #186 
  - I have never been in a position to deal with it personally  blues90   Jun-11-07 05:44 PM   #194 
  - Party Hats For All  Madspirit   Jun-11-07 05:56 PM   #196 
  - Seems like some are afraid to say it, but it is certainly  hiaasenrocks   Jun-11-07 06:19 PM   #201 
  - Courageous  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-11-07 07:52 PM   #221 
  - I would say no, in the first trimester.  Matsubara   Jun-11-07 06:29 PM   #203 
  - I think so, but it's not my body  dmesg   Jun-11-07 06:47 PM   #209 
  - No  ismnotwasm   Jun-11-07 06:49 PM   #212 
  - What IS Immoral  Madspirit   Jun-11-07 07:52 PM   #223 
  - The Bible clearly says that no one's judgement should be subject  MasonJar   Jun-11-07 07:53 PM   #224 
  - It depends on the person and their beliefs  GA_ArmyVet   Jun-11-07 08:51 PM   #229 
  - lol! Wolves in our midst.  BlooInBloo   Jun-11-07 08:52 PM   #230 
  - I reject your premise. A fetus is not a human life  Synnical   Jun-11-07 08:56 PM   #231 
  - I can't believe this thread is still up  supernova   Jun-11-07 08:56 PM   #232 
  - Morality is not concerned with life. It is concerned with entities  Az   Jun-11-07 09:02 PM   #233 
  - Is it immoral every time you masturbate?  Synnical   Jun-11-07 09:21 PM   #239 
  - Nooooo!!!!!  GA_ArmyVet   Jun-11-07 09:59 PM   #246 
  - Should you bring a new baby into a Genocide or a War Zone?  IChing   Jun-12-07 12:19 AM   #248 
  - Absolutely not! Taking away an individual's right to make a conscious decision is!  countryjake   Jun-12-07 03:43 AM   #249 
  - Locking  OhioBlues   Jun-12-07 05:29 AM   #251 
 

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