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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 12:52 PM
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15. Leadership, Leadership, Leadership
50% of Americans do not even bother to vote.

It is those Americans that the Democrats can capture if they show some real leadership on this issue. Gay marriage for all. No "Civil Union" compromise. I truly believe that there is a vast majority of liberals and progressives out there that are not being represented by any party.
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  -Gay Marriage Poll: (longwinded explanation of why i posted this) lionesspriyanka  Jun-08-07 12:28 PM   #0 
  - When are people going to realize that Gay & Lesbian's are  BlackHawk706867   Jun-08-07 12:32 PM   #1 
  - i dont know, hence my question  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 12:33 PM   #3 
  - Come to Canada  GliderGuider   Jun-08-07 12:38 PM   #7 
  - we might.  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 12:39 PM   #8 
  - Join us here in Massachusetts  rox63   Jun-08-07 01:55 PM   #43 
  - What is a "so called heterosexual"?...  Madspirit   Jun-08-07 12:41 PM   #9 
     - There is no proper answer to your so called question.  Bucky   Jun-08-07 01:19 PM   #28 
     - Well, you have to read the post I'm answering  Madspirit   Jun-08-07 01:37 PM   #39 
        - No, I read it. I was just making fun how people use "so called" for things they don't like  Bucky   Jun-08-07 02:59 PM   #47 
           - I Get It  Madspirit   Jun-08-07 03:03 PM   #49 
     - I believe the poster was suggesting  hfojvt   Jun-08-07 04:25 PM   #52 
  - hmmm  DemocratSinceBirth   Jun-08-07 12:32 PM   #2 
  - yup.  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 12:36 PM   #4 
  - Why? Do you doubt the humanity of your fellow Americans?  RufusTFirefly   Jun-08-07 12:43 PM   #11 
     - because these measure were passed is why i doubt the humanity of my fellow americans.  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 12:47 PM   #13 
        - Indeed. The fact that we still DON'T have equal rights is cause enough to doubt the  mondo joe   Jun-08-07 12:50 PM   #14 
  - This country is still too backwards when it comes to social issues  Katzenkavalier   Jun-08-07 12:37 PM   #5 
  - thats my conflict. i believe this but maybe i am underestimation Americans  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 12:38 PM   #6 
  - I am afraid you are right  Madspirit   Jun-08-07 12:43 PM   #10 
  - This ought to bring out the usual suspects  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-08-07 12:46 PM   #12 
  - so far zero votes on "i oppose gay marriage" though  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 01:10 PM   #25 
     - I'm still waiting for the "Do you want to lose the election?!?" brigade  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-08-07 01:29 PM   #33 
        - Give them time - they always do show up (edit)  FreeState   Jun-08-07 01:42 PM   #40 
  - Leadership, Leadership, Leadership  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-08-07 12:52 PM   #15 
  - someday  0rganism   Jun-08-07 12:55 PM   #16 
  - I think the (EEEK!) "Gay Marriage" bogeyman has run out of steam.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-08-07 12:59 PM   #17 
  - Maybe you're tired of it. But I'll bet it still packs weight in rural Ohio & Pennsylvania  Bucky   Jun-08-07 01:22 PM   #31 
  - Gay marriage is NOT a wedge issue  FreeState   Jun-08-07 12:59 PM   #18 
  - i am not blaming GLBT people. i am blaming bigots and idiots for losing elections  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 01:00 PM   #20 
  - Sorry I should have been more clear  FreeState   Jun-08-07 01:03 PM   #22 
  - Yes but that is a big part of the problem. There are republicans  karlrschneider   Jun-08-07 01:21 PM   #30 
  - But do they switch parties when they vote?  FreeState   Jun-08-07 01:25 PM   #32 
     - Probably not but if you are talking about ballot measures like "defense of marriage"  karlrschneider   Jun-08-07 02:56 PM   #45 
  - Sorry, but yes Gay marriage is a wedge issue. If you prefer, the fear of it is the wedge.  Bucky   Jun-08-07 01:29 PM   #34 
  - So how does placing it on the ballot get dems to vote republican ? N/T  FreeState   Jun-08-07 01:31 PM   #35 
     - there are bigoted dems?  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 01:32 PM   #36 
        - So they switch parties over it? No  FreeState   Jun-08-07 01:36 PM   #38 
  - they don't have to switch parties  hfojvt   Jun-08-07 04:37 PM   #53 
  - the only reason an issue like gay marriage or marriage equality can't  xchrom   Jun-08-07 01:00 PM   #19 
  - best response yet. thanks.  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 01:01 PM   #21 
  - The biggest problem, in my view, is the bullshit put out by the other side on gay marriage...  Solon   Jun-08-07 01:04 PM   #23 
  - I'm all for gay marriages  johnnie   Jun-08-07 01:07 PM   #24 
  - We're not stealing anyone's Holy Thing...  Madspirit   Jun-08-07 01:21 PM   #29 
     - You don't have to tell me  johnnie   Jun-08-07 01:33 PM   #37 
  - I'm a marriage abolitionist, and agree with you i/r/t candidates  Lilith Velkor   Jun-08-07 01:14 PM   #26 
  - Marriage equality, by itself, won't cost us votes. People are more anti war than anti gay. BUT....  Bucky   Jun-08-07 01:16 PM   #27 
  - I want to abolish marriage as a legally binding institution altogether  enigmatic   Jun-08-07 01:49 PM   #41 
  - Exactly Right!  stirlingsliver   Jun-08-07 01:52 PM   #42 
  - Might as well try it, who knows why people vote the way they do  taterguy   Jun-08-07 02:39 PM   #44 
  - well that is true enough  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 09:23 PM   #55 
  - I most definitely think a candidate can win who supports gay marriage.  SarahBelle   Jun-08-07 02:59 PM   #46 
  - Kerry won the election.  yardwork   Jun-08-07 03:01 PM   #48 
  - Don't forget they said the New Jersey decision was going to cost us  cboy4   Jun-08-07 04:07 PM   #50 
  - i think the jersey ruling was very diffferent, the jersey rulings came from the court  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 09:22 PM   #54 
  - I think it's possible  flblu2   Jun-08-07 04:19 PM   #51 
  - You never give up what's right, you just avoid spotlighting the issue when it's unpopular  jpgray   Jun-08-07 09:28 PM   #56 
  - so what is the solution. electing people who support equality but not vocally?  lionesspriyanka   Jun-08-07 09:32 PM   #57 
     - There's no worthier cause than equal rights--any decent candidate should support it  jpgray   Jun-08-07 09:54 PM   #59 
  - I think, particularly if it was framed in the context of a broad and consistent socially libertarian  impeachdubya   Jun-08-07 09:36 PM   #58 

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