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Fri Jun-08-07 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #141 |
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That's the same type of reasoning used to allow torture.
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| -A New Waco Is Possibly Happening Right Now. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 12:55 PM |
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This! Over taxes! Good lord above. |
Sequoia |
Jun-07-07 01:02 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:03 PM |
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I believe that this insane government wants to flex its muscles and these |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:07 PM |
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All this over money. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:09 PM |
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People who don't pay taxes aren't victims, they're criminals. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-07 01:10 PM |
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Ok, so let's start mowing down jaywalkers, pot smokers, etc who don't want to turn |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:18 PM |
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If the jaywalkers are going to hole themselves in their homes... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-07 01:21 PM |
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"Ed Brown says he is armed and has promised a Waco like ending, saying he will not be taken alive." |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:21 PM |
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yep, sounds like a victim to me. Threatening to kill federal agents and police officers, LOL. |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:29 PM |
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They were found guilty and didn't go to sentencing |
johnnie |
Jun-07-07 01:24 PM |
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Let the idiots stay there? |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:28 PM |
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What would you do, let them go free? |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jun-07-07 05:25 PM |
#115 |
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Indeed ... |
Drifter |
Jun-08-07 11:27 AM |
#163 |
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you are out of your damn mind |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:28 PM |
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Not at all. Who is out their damned minds when they advocate violence for a non-violent offense? |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:42 PM |
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is stealing a car a violent offense? is failing to stop for a |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 01:59 PM |
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armed standoff with the feds is prefectly fine, eh? |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 03:54 PM |
#86 |
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I will respectfully disagree |
NobleCynic |
Jun-08-07 03:06 AM |
#152 |
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paying taxes isn't a choice |
Throwing Stones |
Jun-07-07 01:32 PM |
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I dunno |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 01:48 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-07-07 05:23 PM |
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don't mess with the IRS |
mediawatch |
Jun-07-07 01:17 PM |
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what is Iraq over???? |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:18 PM |
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"Sometimes money trumps.... uh.... um.... peace." |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 01:38 AM |
#143 |
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I guess some people get pissed off... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:16 PM |
#112 |
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Why do they hate the troops? |
eridani |
Jun-08-07 02:01 AM |
#150 |
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Dreadful. Well, the gov't learned a valuable lesson in Waco..... |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 01:02 PM |
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Yes, they are keeping the media far away like they did at Ruby Ridge. eom |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:06 PM |
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Wish the couple would have learned an even more valuable lesson |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:27 PM |
#116 |
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"Pay your taxes rather than threatening violence." |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:16 PM |
#121 |
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They wouldn't have those forces coming for them if they hadn't holed |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 01:40 AM |
#144 |
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According to the story |
LanternWaste |
Jun-08-07 07:29 AM |
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Let's hope there can be a resolution before things get THAT crazy |
Catch22Dem |
Jun-07-07 01:06 PM |
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Oh shit, this could trigger some awful shit. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:06 PM |
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Well the government learned their lesson with cameras and Waco...'people kept several miles away" |
Blackhatjack |
Jun-07-07 01:07 PM |
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This guy is like a libertarian hero! |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:07 PM |
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And it is going to piss a lot of their supporters off. eom |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:08 PM |
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And they're freaking violent too. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:09 PM |
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History tends to repeat itself a lot more often if people refuse to study it...n/t |
Blackhatjack |
Jun-07-07 01:14 PM |
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They should have paid up like the rest of us |
johnnie |
Jun-07-07 01:15 PM |
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I think we're jumping to conclusions. We don't know the |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:38 PM |
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we know enough- they have the money, |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 07:44 PM |
#129 |
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I was just about to take you for your word and you jump |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 07:52 PM |
#133 |
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i apologize for |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 08:12 PM |
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Maybe I was just being a bit sensitive....now that I've read more |
snappyturtle |
Jun-08-07 10:50 AM |
#162 |
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What taxes are they not paying? Income? Property? |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 01:54 AM |
#148 |
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Law enforcement tries to arrest criminals |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-07-07 01:19 PM |
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Waco? More like Ruby Ridge. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 01:21 PM |
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Well, see, thing is, the minute they started an armed standoff, they became violent offenders |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:27 PM |
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Are you suggesting that we all go like sheep when the govt commands? |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 01:37 PM |
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See post 30 and read the ENTIRE article. These people are batshit violent. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:44 PM |
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I read it, and I see no batshit violence. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:01 PM |
#43 |
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why should they be treated like that? because they |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:15 PM |
#52 |
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Because their arrogance is irrelevant. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:25 PM |
#58 |
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would you take the same position if they had committed a violent crime |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 02:47 PM |
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No, because a threat exists there. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:52 PM |
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"They are threatening nobody." Oh, really? You've been following this story that closely, have you? |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 02:59 PM |
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I've already read that. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:34 PM |
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but as long as they are confined to their home, what is the risk? |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 03:06 PM |
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There's a very big difference. Risk of escape. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:39 PM |
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wrong. |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 04:56 PM |
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Armed robbery is a potentially violent crime, tax evasion is not. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 03:44 PM |
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but once an armed felon is trapped in his home, he is no risk to anyone |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 04:59 PM |
#105 |
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in answer to your |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 03:05 PM |
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It should. That's my point. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:50 PM |
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the law only served the browns with |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 04:54 PM |
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Another arrogant fool got kid glove treatment today. Are you |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:49 PM |
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i am, and it |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 07:23 PM |
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I hope some poor person can use it as precedent someday and |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 07:47 PM |
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When convicted of a felony... yes. That's the peaceful, sane thing to do. |
nonconformist |
Jun-07-07 01:59 PM |
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Months? How about years. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:04 PM |
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Actually, they might never have to leave if they have anyone on the outside that they can trust |
nonconformist |
Jun-07-07 02:34 PM |
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Aiding and abetting. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:57 PM |
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"at some point they will have to leave." |
MilesColtrane |
Jun-07-07 03:18 PM |
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Of course, that is a risk. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:56 PM |
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that's pathetic. It is beyond pathetic. You really see these people as heroes, don't you? |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
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Heroes? Hell no. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 04:01 PM |
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What about bank robbers then? Holed up in the bank after they've let |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 02:03 AM |
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Did they threathen authorities or inform them they would defend themselves? nt |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:42 PM |
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wait a sec, they barricaded themselves for "several months" already? |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-07-07 01:33 PM |
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no, the govt is running out of patience- Brown has tried to |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 01:46 PM |
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Always interesting to read the local take on it. As posted below, |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 02:36 PM |
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"New Hampshire Tax Protesters Say the Bible Will Decide Their Fate" |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:38 PM |
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I guess they missed that part about "Render unto Caesar...." n/t |
n2doc |
Jun-07-07 01:44 PM |
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the religion aspect of this is much like the |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:09 PM |
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EXACTLY--it's not even faith, just religion, just another tool like their guns. |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 02:43 PM |
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Lemme hear ya say "Yeah!!!" nt |
joeunderdog |
Jun-07-07 05:19 PM |
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That rules out a Waco like ending. |
VTMechEngr |
Jun-07-07 06:54 PM |
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Maybe they think suicide-by-cop doesn't count |
Posteritatis |
Jun-07-07 08:07 PM |
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Suicide by cop is still suicide... |
VTMechEngr |
Jun-08-07 01:06 AM |
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Is there a town called "Lebanon" in New Hampshire? |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 01:47 PM |
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Local paper, so the readers would know this: |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:48 PM |
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Gotcha. Thanks. |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 01:50 PM |
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Yes there is a Lebanon NH and up here in NH we are familiar with the Browns. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-08-07 08:30 AM |
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yes, there is one in NH and NY, NJ ,TN, PA and I'm sure more |
maddezmom |
Jun-07-07 01:51 PM |
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Thanks! |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 01:54 PM |
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You're correct |
maddezmom |
Jun-07-07 02:03 PM |
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There is! |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Jun-07-07 02:04 PM |
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yes there is |
Marrah_G |
Jun-07-07 03:10 PM |
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Yes, there is, and West Lebanon |
wicket |
Jun-07-07 03:35 PM |
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saying he will not be taken alive. |
DS1 |
Jun-07-07 01:48 PM |
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Air power!?!?!?! |
High Plains |
Jun-07-07 02:21 PM |
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Such a simple solution, but human lives are apparently less important. than patience. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:30 PM |
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Why are you not putting the onus of saving lives on the Browns? |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:42 PM |
#118 |
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Sometimes we have to look out for other people, even if they won't look out for themselves n/t |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 06:02 PM |
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I'm afraid I don't understand |
LanternWaste |
Jun-08-07 07:26 AM |
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The Feds didn't learn a single fucking thing |
Warpy |
Jun-07-07 01:50 PM |
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should we do that for everyone who violates the law? |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 02:03 PM |
#44 |
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Depends on the person, the charge, and the situation. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:13 PM |
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House arrest would be great for some crimes |
Warpy |
Jun-07-07 02:40 PM |
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I don't know that I agree with THAT. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:09 PM |
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So, if I don't pay my taxes, |
donco6 |
Jun-07-07 02:04 PM |
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Sorry, I have no sympathy for these folks |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 02:17 PM |
#53 |
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i couldn't agree.. |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:23 PM |
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it's hard to understand why prosperous, respected people would throw their lives away like this... |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-07-07 05:11 PM |
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Less of a waco and more like a ruby ridge. nt |
Javaman |
Jun-07-07 02:25 PM |
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Another article about this case... they have abandoned "man's law" for "Bible law" |
nonconformist |
Jun-07-07 02:53 PM |
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Compared to what will happen to them in prison |
Jed Dilligan |
Jun-07-07 02:56 PM |
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Jun-07-07 03:19 PM |
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I'm certainly not going to waste a minute of my time watching your video, but here's your link |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 03:28 PM |
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Hell, there's even a constitutional amendment. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
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Oh jeez.... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:45 PM |
#119 |
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A little parsley here, a little mustard there, but pretty much Spam on white everytime. |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 08:15 PM |
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Lol. Here's a simple argument that stumps most anti-tax people |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 06:18 PM |
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Do you know how many people refuse to pay taxes?? |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-07-07 03:32 PM |
#76 |
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so what? |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 03:37 PM |
#79 |
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Who said anything about legal??? |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-07-07 03:47 PM |
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Actually, I do not believe in compulsory taxation, but I'd like to point you to... |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 03:58 PM |
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"Taxation is actually illegal/unconstitutional" |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 04:53 PM |
#102 |
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I know, where did they get this stuff, it is clearly in the US Constitution... |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 05:11 PM |
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that's a little bit different, though... |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-07-07 04:10 PM |
#98 |
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maybe you should |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 05:13 PM |
#109 |
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here's a thought |
MichaelHarris |
Jun-07-07 03:48 PM |
#83 |
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was this a case of financial difficulties that got out of hand... |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-07-07 03:54 PM |
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Plenty of links in the thread. They want to be "martyrs..." nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
#90 |
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Partially crazy/partially protesting |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 04:02 PM |
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I'm taking a huge chance here |
RagingInMiami |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
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hahahahahaha |
MichaelHarris |
Jun-07-07 03:58 PM |
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Or libertarians. n/t |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 03:59 PM |
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Not in NH. |
Tesha |
Jun-08-07 08:35 AM |
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They are offering $1 million property award.... |
wicket |
Jun-07-07 03:59 PM |
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Can I get it from them in cash? I'm not sure I trust them to pay by check. |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 05:13 PM |
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It's a parcel of land they are offering |
wicket |
Jun-07-07 05:30 PM |
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I Hope The Feds Are Successful And They Make It Out Unscathed In Apprehending These Criminals. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-07-07 04:15 PM |
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Sure you do |
FreeMeFromInsanity |
Jun-07-07 07:48 PM |
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Was That Like, Actually Supposed To Be An Argument Somehow? Was It Supposed To Make Sense Somehow? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-07-07 07:53 PM |
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Live free or die! |
WinkyDink |
Jun-07-07 04:17 PM |
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Tax resisters, gotta love 'em |
AngryAmish |
Jun-07-07 04:23 PM |
#101 |
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I think we should all refuse to pay our taxes until Bush/Cheney are gone |
MasonJar |
Jun-07-07 05:04 PM |
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You lead the way. Let me know how well it works out. |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 05:14 PM |
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Redress of Grievances |
FreeMeFromInsanity |
Jun-07-07 07:46 PM |
#130 |
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do the people you know |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 08:21 PM |
#138 |
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What happened to Mark Rich? |
FreeMeFromInsanity |
Jun-07-07 07:19 PM |
#127 |
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Well just give him what he wants. I'm sure they have snipers there. |
MrSlayer |
Jun-07-07 08:30 PM |
#139 |
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Assasination for tax evasion? |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-08-07 08:32 AM |
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Not for tax evasion. |
MrSlayer |
Jun-08-07 09:16 PM |
#168 |
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Paying taxes is the price we pay to live in a civilized society. |
baldguy |
Jun-07-07 08:34 PM |
#140 |
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untrue |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 01:51 AM |
#146 |
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Millions don't pay taxes? |
VTMechEngr |
Jun-08-07 03:40 PM |
#166 |
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I was assuming... |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 03:42 PM |
#167 |
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Fucking Libertarian nutters. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-07-07 09:34 PM |
#141 |
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but... |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 01:52 AM |
#147 |
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This is Iraq. If they're not an IMMINENT THREAT, it's best to just starve them out. nt |
snot |
Jun-08-07 01:58 AM |
#149 |
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Ron Paul: "I cannot cite a law...you know, if they think it's the law and they have all the guns |
CGowen |
Jun-08-07 05:11 AM |
#153 |
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Our way of life will end with a thousand little Wacos |
formercia |
Jun-08-07 07:02 AM |
#154 |
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My thread on this subject was locked. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jun-08-07 07:09 AM |
#155 |
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Has anyone mentioned, Ed & Elaine Brown have their own blog? Here: |
snot |
Jun-08-07 10:17 AM |
#161 |
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And a MySpace page too. Here's Today's latest post |
Wiley50 |
Jun-08-07 12:04 PM |
#164 |
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kick |
wicket |
Jun-08-07 03:27 PM |
#165 |
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