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Thu Jun-07-07 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #59 |
| 118. Why are you not putting the onus of saving lives on the Browns? |
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Why are you not putting the onus of saving lives on the Browns? It seems they're the ones who could quite easily end this with zero violence. Zero risk of violence.
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| -A New Waco Is Possibly Happening Right Now. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 12:55 PM |
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This! Over taxes! Good lord above. |
Sequoia |
Jun-07-07 01:02 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:03 PM |
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I believe that this insane government wants to flex its muscles and these |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:07 PM |
#9 |
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All this over money. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:09 PM |
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People who don't pay taxes aren't victims, they're criminals. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-07 01:10 PM |
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Ok, so let's start mowing down jaywalkers, pot smokers, etc who don't want to turn |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:18 PM |
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If the jaywalkers are going to hole themselves in their homes... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-07-07 01:21 PM |
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"Ed Brown says he is armed and has promised a Waco like ending, saying he will not be taken alive." |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:21 PM |
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yep, sounds like a victim to me. Threatening to kill federal agents and police officers, LOL. |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:29 PM |
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They were found guilty and didn't go to sentencing |
johnnie |
Jun-07-07 01:24 PM |
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Let the idiots stay there? |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:28 PM |
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What would you do, let them go free? |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jun-07-07 05:25 PM |
#115 |
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Indeed ... |
Drifter |
Jun-08-07 11:27 AM |
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you are out of your damn mind |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:28 PM |
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Not at all. Who is out their damned minds when they advocate violence for a non-violent offense? |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:42 PM |
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is stealing a car a violent offense? is failing to stop for a |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 01:59 PM |
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armed standoff with the feds is prefectly fine, eh? |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 03:54 PM |
#86 |
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I will respectfully disagree |
NobleCynic |
Jun-08-07 03:06 AM |
#152 |
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paying taxes isn't a choice |
Throwing Stones |
Jun-07-07 01:32 PM |
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I dunno |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 01:48 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-07-07 05:23 PM |
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don't mess with the IRS |
mediawatch |
Jun-07-07 01:17 PM |
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what is Iraq over???? |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:18 PM |
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"Sometimes money trumps.... uh.... um.... peace." |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 01:38 AM |
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I guess some people get pissed off... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:16 PM |
#112 |
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Why do they hate the troops? |
eridani |
Jun-08-07 02:01 AM |
#150 |
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Dreadful. Well, the gov't learned a valuable lesson in Waco..... |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 01:02 PM |
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Yes, they are keeping the media far away like they did at Ruby Ridge. eom |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:06 PM |
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Wish the couple would have learned an even more valuable lesson |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:27 PM |
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"Pay your taxes rather than threatening violence." |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:16 PM |
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They wouldn't have those forces coming for them if they hadn't holed |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 01:40 AM |
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According to the story |
LanternWaste |
Jun-08-07 07:29 AM |
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Let's hope there can be a resolution before things get THAT crazy |
Catch22Dem |
Jun-07-07 01:06 PM |
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Oh shit, this could trigger some awful shit. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:06 PM |
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Well the government learned their lesson with cameras and Waco...'people kept several miles away" |
Blackhatjack |
Jun-07-07 01:07 PM |
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This guy is like a libertarian hero! |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:07 PM |
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And it is going to piss a lot of their supporters off. eom |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-07-07 01:08 PM |
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And they're freaking violent too. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 01:09 PM |
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History tends to repeat itself a lot more often if people refuse to study it...n/t |
Blackhatjack |
Jun-07-07 01:14 PM |
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They should have paid up like the rest of us |
johnnie |
Jun-07-07 01:15 PM |
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I think we're jumping to conclusions. We don't know the |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:38 PM |
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we know enough- they have the money, |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 07:44 PM |
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I was just about to take you for your word and you jump |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 07:52 PM |
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i apologize for |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 08:12 PM |
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Maybe I was just being a bit sensitive....now that I've read more |
snappyturtle |
Jun-08-07 10:50 AM |
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What taxes are they not paying? Income? Property? |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 01:54 AM |
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Law enforcement tries to arrest criminals |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-07-07 01:19 PM |
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Waco? More like Ruby Ridge. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 01:21 PM |
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Well, see, thing is, the minute they started an armed standoff, they became violent offenders |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 01:27 PM |
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Are you suggesting that we all go like sheep when the govt commands? |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 01:37 PM |
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See post 30 and read the ENTIRE article. These people are batshit violent. nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:44 PM |
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I read it, and I see no batshit violence. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:01 PM |
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why should they be treated like that? because they |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:15 PM |
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Because their arrogance is irrelevant. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:25 PM |
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would you take the same position if they had committed a violent crime |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 02:47 PM |
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No, because a threat exists there. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:52 PM |
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"They are threatening nobody." Oh, really? You've been following this story that closely, have you? |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 02:59 PM |
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I've already read that. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:34 PM |
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but as long as they are confined to their home, what is the risk? |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 03:06 PM |
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There's a very big difference. Risk of escape. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:39 PM |
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wrong. |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 04:56 PM |
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Armed robbery is a potentially violent crime, tax evasion is not. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 03:44 PM |
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but once an armed felon is trapped in his home, he is no risk to anyone |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 04:59 PM |
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in answer to your |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 03:05 PM |
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It should. That's my point. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:50 PM |
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the law only served the browns with |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 04:54 PM |
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Another arrogant fool got kid glove treatment today. Are you |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:49 PM |
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i am, and it |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 07:23 PM |
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I hope some poor person can use it as precedent someday and |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 07:47 PM |
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When convicted of a felony... yes. That's the peaceful, sane thing to do. |
nonconformist |
Jun-07-07 01:59 PM |
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Months? How about years. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:04 PM |
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Actually, they might never have to leave if they have anyone on the outside that they can trust |
nonconformist |
Jun-07-07 02:34 PM |
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Aiding and abetting. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:57 PM |
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"at some point they will have to leave." |
MilesColtrane |
Jun-07-07 03:18 PM |
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Of course, that is a risk. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 03:56 PM |
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that's pathetic. It is beyond pathetic. You really see these people as heroes, don't you? |
ComerPerro |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
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Heroes? Hell no. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 04:01 PM |
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What about bank robbers then? Holed up in the bank after they've let |
cui bono |
Jun-08-07 02:03 AM |
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Did they threathen authorities or inform them they would defend themselves? nt |
snappyturtle |
Jun-07-07 06:42 PM |
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wait a sec, they barricaded themselves for "several months" already? |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-07-07 01:33 PM |
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no, the govt is running out of patience- Brown has tried to |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 01:46 PM |
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Always interesting to read the local take on it. As posted below, |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 02:36 PM |
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"New Hampshire Tax Protesters Say the Bible Will Decide Their Fate" |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:38 PM |
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I guess they missed that part about "Render unto Caesar...." n/t |
n2doc |
Jun-07-07 01:44 PM |
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the religion aspect of this is much like the |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:09 PM |
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EXACTLY--it's not even faith, just religion, just another tool like their guns. |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 02:43 PM |
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Lemme hear ya say "Yeah!!!" nt |
joeunderdog |
Jun-07-07 05:19 PM |
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That rules out a Waco like ending. |
VTMechEngr |
Jun-07-07 06:54 PM |
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Maybe they think suicide-by-cop doesn't count |
Posteritatis |
Jun-07-07 08:07 PM |
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Suicide by cop is still suicide... |
VTMechEngr |
Jun-08-07 01:06 AM |
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Is there a town called "Lebanon" in New Hampshire? |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 01:47 PM |
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Local paper, so the readers would know this: |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 01:48 PM |
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Gotcha. Thanks. |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 01:50 PM |
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Yes there is a Lebanon NH and up here in NH we are familiar with the Browns. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-08-07 08:30 AM |
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yes, there is one in NH and NY, NJ ,TN, PA and I'm sure more |
maddezmom |
Jun-07-07 01:51 PM |
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Thanks! |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 01:54 PM |
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You're correct |
maddezmom |
Jun-07-07 02:03 PM |
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There is! |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Jun-07-07 02:04 PM |
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yes there is |
Marrah_G |
Jun-07-07 03:10 PM |
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Yes, there is, and West Lebanon |
wicket |
Jun-07-07 03:35 PM |
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saying he will not be taken alive. |
DS1 |
Jun-07-07 01:48 PM |
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Air power!?!?!?! |
High Plains |
Jun-07-07 02:21 PM |
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Such a simple solution, but human lives are apparently less important. than patience. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:30 PM |
#59 |
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Why are you not putting the onus of saving lives on the Browns? |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:42 PM |
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Sometimes we have to look out for other people, even if they won't look out for themselves n/t |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 06:02 PM |
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I'm afraid I don't understand |
LanternWaste |
Jun-08-07 07:26 AM |
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The Feds didn't learn a single fucking thing |
Warpy |
Jun-07-07 01:50 PM |
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should we do that for everyone who violates the law? |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 02:03 PM |
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Depends on the person, the charge, and the situation. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:13 PM |
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House arrest would be great for some crimes |
Warpy |
Jun-07-07 02:40 PM |
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I don't know that I agree with THAT. |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 02:09 PM |
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So, if I don't pay my taxes, |
donco6 |
Jun-07-07 02:04 PM |
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Sorry, I have no sympathy for these folks |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 02:17 PM |
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i couldn't agree.. |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 02:23 PM |
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it's hard to understand why prosperous, respected people would throw their lives away like this... |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-07-07 05:11 PM |
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Less of a waco and more like a ruby ridge. nt |
Javaman |
Jun-07-07 02:25 PM |
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Another article about this case... they have abandoned "man's law" for "Bible law" |
nonconformist |
Jun-07-07 02:53 PM |
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Compared to what will happen to them in prison |
Jed Dilligan |
Jun-07-07 02:56 PM |
#67 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-07-07 03:19 PM |
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I'm certainly not going to waste a minute of my time watching your video, but here's your link |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 03:28 PM |
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Hell, there's even a constitutional amendment. |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
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Oh jeez.... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-07-07 05:45 PM |
#119 |
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A little parsley here, a little mustard there, but pretty much Spam on white everytime. |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 08:15 PM |
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Lol. Here's a simple argument that stumps most anti-tax people |
Xithras |
Jun-07-07 06:18 PM |
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Do you know how many people refuse to pay taxes?? |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-07-07 03:32 PM |
#76 |
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so what? |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 03:37 PM |
#79 |
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Who said anything about legal??? |
and-justice-for-all |
Jun-07-07 03:47 PM |
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Actually, I do not believe in compulsory taxation, but I'd like to point you to... |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 03:58 PM |
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"Taxation is actually illegal/unconstitutional" |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 04:53 PM |
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I know, where did they get this stuff, it is clearly in the US Constitution... |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 05:11 PM |
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that's a little bit different, though... |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-07-07 04:10 PM |
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maybe you should |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 05:13 PM |
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here's a thought |
MichaelHarris |
Jun-07-07 03:48 PM |
#83 |
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was this a case of financial difficulties that got out of hand... |
NorthernSpy |
Jun-07-07 03:54 PM |
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Plenty of links in the thread. They want to be "martyrs..." nt |
blondeatlast |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
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Partially crazy/partially protesting |
originalpckelly |
Jun-07-07 04:02 PM |
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I'm taking a huge chance here |
RagingInMiami |
Jun-07-07 03:55 PM |
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hahahahahaha |
MichaelHarris |
Jun-07-07 03:58 PM |
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Or libertarians. n/t |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-07-07 03:59 PM |
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Not in NH. |
Tesha |
Jun-08-07 08:35 AM |
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They are offering $1 million property award.... |
wicket |
Jun-07-07 03:59 PM |
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Can I get it from them in cash? I'm not sure I trust them to pay by check. |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 05:13 PM |
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It's a parcel of land they are offering |
wicket |
Jun-07-07 05:30 PM |
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I Hope The Feds Are Successful And They Make It Out Unscathed In Apprehending These Criminals. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-07-07 04:15 PM |
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Sure you do |
FreeMeFromInsanity |
Jun-07-07 07:48 PM |
#132 |
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Was That Like, Actually Supposed To Be An Argument Somehow? Was It Supposed To Make Sense Somehow? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-07-07 07:53 PM |
#134 |
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Live free or die! |
WinkyDink |
Jun-07-07 04:17 PM |
#100 |
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Tax resisters, gotta love 'em |
AngryAmish |
Jun-07-07 04:23 PM |
#101 |
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I think we should all refuse to pay our taxes until Bush/Cheney are gone |
MasonJar |
Jun-07-07 05:04 PM |
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You lead the way. Let me know how well it works out. |
onenote |
Jun-07-07 05:14 PM |
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Redress of Grievances |
FreeMeFromInsanity |
Jun-07-07 07:46 PM |
#130 |
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do the people you know |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-07-07 08:21 PM |
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What happened to Mark Rich? |
FreeMeFromInsanity |
Jun-07-07 07:19 PM |
#127 |
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Well just give him what he wants. I'm sure they have snipers there. |
MrSlayer |
Jun-07-07 08:30 PM |
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Assasination for tax evasion? |
Warren Stupidity |
Jun-08-07 08:32 AM |
#159 |
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Not for tax evasion. |
MrSlayer |
Jun-08-07 09:16 PM |
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Paying taxes is the price we pay to live in a civilized society. |
baldguy |
Jun-07-07 08:34 PM |
#140 |
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untrue |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 01:51 AM |
#146 |
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Millions don't pay taxes? |
VTMechEngr |
Jun-08-07 03:40 PM |
#166 |
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I was assuming... |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 03:42 PM |
#167 |
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Fucking Libertarian nutters. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-07-07 09:34 PM |
#141 |
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but... |
Athens30603 |
Jun-08-07 01:52 AM |
#147 |
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This is Iraq. If they're not an IMMINENT THREAT, it's best to just starve them out. nt |
snot |
Jun-08-07 01:58 AM |
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Ron Paul: "I cannot cite a law...you know, if they think it's the law and they have all the guns |
CGowen |
Jun-08-07 05:11 AM |
#153 |
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Our way of life will end with a thousand little Wacos |
formercia |
Jun-08-07 07:02 AM |
#154 |
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My thread on this subject was locked. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jun-08-07 07:09 AM |
#155 |
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Has anyone mentioned, Ed & Elaine Brown have their own blog? Here: |
snot |
Jun-08-07 10:17 AM |
#161 |
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And a MySpace page too. Here's Today's latest post |
Wiley50 |
Jun-08-07 12:04 PM |
#164 |
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kick |
wicket |
Jun-08-07 03:27 PM |
#165 |
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