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Yoda Yada Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 10:41 AM
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12. According to the Bible, HUMAN life begins with breath....
"And God...breathed into his nostrils the BREATH of life, and man BECAME a living being." Genesis 2 :7

"The spirit of God has made me, and the BREATH of the Almight gives me life." Job 33:4

Life begins with the first breath and ends with the last breath. (Some organs can function before that first breath, and of course, some organs function for a short time after that last breath.)

The lungs are the last organs to form before birth, and they, of course HOLD the BREATH. Without enough of the lungs being formed, breath cannot be held.
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  -When life "begins" and how. usregimechange  Jun-07-07 10:25 AM   #0 
  - There is life in cancer cells.  Sapere aude   Jun-07-07 10:27 AM   #1 
  - In fact, a little too much.  usregimechange   Jun-07-07 10:28 AM   #2 
  - exactly so....  mike_c   Jun-07-07 10:28 AM   #3 
  - When young men and women in their late teens through say early 40's die from  whistle   Jun-07-07 11:35 AM   #20 
  - ??  Richardo   Jun-07-07 10:31 AM   #4 
  - It is framed so poorly because that lie helps in a debate.  usregimechange   Jun-07-07 10:33 AM   #6 
  - It's convenient (for one side) when the question is framed in that ignorant way. (NT)  Tesha   Jun-07-07 10:57 AM   #15 
  - Exactly. Otherwise we are debating onions and bananas  uppityperson   Jun-07-07 04:40 PM   #28 
  - I don't even consider that to be the question.  Left Is Write   Jun-07-07 10:16 PM   #33 
     - EXACTLY!!..  Madspirit   Jun-08-07 06:21 PM   #63 
  - Life begins when you start costing someone money...  bleedingheart   Jun-07-07 10:32 AM   #5 
  - LOL!  Clark2008   Jun-07-07 10:34 AM   #7 
     - you are welcome  bleedingheart   Jun-07-07 10:36 AM   #8 
     - Congratulations!  astonamous   Jun-07-07 10:40 AM   #11 
  - I thought life began at 30?  unpossibles   Jun-07-07 10:36 AM   #9 
  - NOOOooo...  Kazak   Jun-07-07 10:53 AM   #14 
  - There's only one way to debate "the life" issue with a freeper  Norquist Nemesis   Jun-07-07 10:36 AM   #10 
  - According to the Bible, HUMAN life begins with breath....  Yoda Yada   Jun-07-07 10:41 AM   #12 
  - Sorry, that was from Genesis 2:7 nt  Yoda Yada   Jun-07-07 10:42 AM   #13 
  - Good Point!  Mark D.   Jun-07-07 11:14 AM   #19 
  - so you're suggesting that a fetus in utero is not alive...?  mike_c   Jun-07-07 02:07 PM   #22 
  - actually, the bible is suggesting it...well, stating it, actually...  QuestionAll   Jun-07-07 10:07 PM   #32 
     - I don't know how to break this to you, but MOST living organisms...  mike_c   Jun-08-07 09:37 AM   #37 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-08-07 11:32 PM   #67 
        - i don't know how to break this to you, but i specified HUMAN organisms.  QuestionAll   Jun-09-07 10:40 AM   #69 
  - This is usually the tack that I take with the literalists...  annabanana   Jun-09-07 10:47 AM   #70 
  - LIfe begins when the kids leave for college. (NT)  Tesha   Jun-07-07 10:58 AM   #16 
  - Yep  Bjornsdotter   Jun-08-07 09:52 AM   #40 
  - The question is when does an individual life begin.  rug   Jun-07-07 11:10 AM   #17 
  - When life begins is not relevant to abortion rights.  mondo joe   Jun-07-07 11:13 AM   #18 
  - Of course it's relevant. It's fundamental (if you'll pardon the expression)  Richardo   Jun-07-07 04:03 PM   #24 
  - To the contrary: A woman has the right to abort a fetus whether it's a life or not.  mondo joe   Jun-07-07 04:38 PM   #26 
  - I agree.  Left Is Write   Jun-07-07 10:17 PM   #35 
  - Really Really Narrow Minded Sentiment. When Life Begins Is Thoughtful Topic For Anyone, Not Just  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-07-07 11:38 AM   #21 
  - so do you think there is "nothing wrong" with believing...  mike_c   Jun-07-07 02:09 PM   #23 
  - And is the life that exists after conception not a different life?  rug   Jun-07-07 04:09 PM   #25 
     - what is "a different life...?"  mike_c   Jun-07-07 09:39 PM   #29 
        - That's deliberately obtuse.  rug   Jun-07-07 10:17 PM   #34 
           - I don't think it's the least bit obtuse-- it's what I teach in my biology courses....  mike_c   Jun-08-07 09:32 AM   #36 
           - It means The Circle of Life is not an answer to the question of  rug   Jun-08-07 11:06 AM   #41 
           - No it's not.  Iris   Jun-08-07 09:50 AM   #38 
              - It does have a nice zen tone to it but the question is when an individual's life begins.  rug   Jun-08-07 11:07 AM   #42 
              - When an individual's life begins is not relevant to abortion rights.  mondo joe   Jun-08-07 11:09 AM   #43 
              - It is relevant. The question is whose right predominates.  rug   Jun-08-07 11:16 AM   #44 
                 - I'm saying it doesn't matter if a fetus is an individual or not.  mondo joe   Jun-08-07 11:40 AM   #49 
                    - But you are saying viability does matter.  rug   Jun-08-07 12:13 PM   #51 
                       - Of course it does. If a fetus cvould be viably removed, abortion would  mondo joe   Jun-08-07 12:22 PM   #52 
                          - Viability is a factual question based in biology.  rug   Jun-08-07 12:34 PM   #54 
                             - Viability already limits terminations.  mondo joe   Jun-08-07 12:44 PM   #56 
                                - Do you support that limitation?  rug   Jun-08-07 02:38 PM   #57 
              - perhaps you just don't like to have this idea put into a context  Iris   Jun-08-07 11:17 AM   #45 
              - I like ideas in any context.  rug   Jun-08-07 11:21 AM   #46 
                 - To be honest, I don't know when life begins. That's why I'd never  Iris   Jun-08-07 11:35 AM   #47 
              - so when do you propose that "an individual" was not alive?  mike_c   Jun-08-07 05:51 PM   #58 
                 - You did not exist prior to syngamy. Your constituent parts did but you did not.  rug   Jun-08-07 06:09 PM   #60 
                    - my independent existence is a matter of perception, really....  mike_c   Jun-08-07 06:19 PM   #62 
              - I'd go even further....  mike_c   Jun-08-07 06:14 PM   #61 
                 - It's both.  rug   Jun-08-07 06:29 PM   #65 
  - Then it's wrong to make laws based on certain individual interpretations and perceptions.  Iris   Jun-08-07 09:51 AM   #39 
     - That's Up To Interpretation And Perception. It's Not An Absolute.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-08-07 12:38 PM   #55 
  - what is "life"?  uppityperson   Jun-07-07 04:40 PM   #27 
  - I had once heard that "life" is only the journey to death...  rasputin1952   Jun-08-07 11:41 AM   #50 
  - I have been informed by some RW fundy's that are in the know...  rasputin1952   Jun-07-07 09:56 PM   #30 
  - lol  MisterHowdy   Jun-07-07 09:59 PM   #31 
     - I figure that killing 'half souls' is a better deal than  rasputin1952   Jun-08-07 11:36 AM   #48 
  - The biblical quotes are about HUMAN life....  Yoda Yada   Jun-08-07 12:26 PM   #53 
  - then that implies the human life differs from other life....  mike_c   Jun-08-07 05:54 PM   #59 
     - I don't know the answer. I'm just saying that equating breath with....  Yoda Yada   Jun-08-07 09:02 PM   #66 
  - Life begins January 21, 2009  Nikki Stone1   Jun-08-07 06:21 PM   #64 
     - I can't wait, it seems we've been holding our breath for a very long time  OhioBlues   Jun-09-07 10:20 AM   #68 
 

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