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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #133
134. Well then...
...perhaps you need to make yourself more clear in the future, huh?

You have been nothing but rude (and continue to do so) because I do not agree with you. So you will be waiting a long time for an aoplogy from me.
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  -GLBT outrage at Edwards misplaced... ddeclue  Jun-06-07 07:29 PM   #0 
  - Who is trying to force religions to "bless" gay marriage?  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-06-07 07:55 PM   #1 
  - I had a conversation with a fundie who thought gay marriage meant that churches  ourbluenation   Jun-06-07 07:59 PM   #2 
  - They don't want the government to tell them how to run the churches  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-06-07 08:25 PM   #8 
  - Yeah that's the joke about "what's the difference between a Dem and a Republican?"  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:29 PM   #10 
  - I agree that should be made abundantly clear  LiberalFighter   Jun-06-07 08:57 PM   #30 
  - This guy right here on DU seems to think that was the problem  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:01 PM   #3 
  - Because the RW talking point has worked its magic...  Sapphocrat   Jun-06-07 08:17 PM   #5 
  - Indeed  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-06-07 08:23 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, I know -- even here on DU too many don't know the difference  theHandpuppet   Jun-06-07 10:56 PM   #110 
  - Are other basic civil rights state mandated or are they federal?  flvegan   Jun-06-07 08:09 PM   #4 
  - Some other basic rights ARE state mandated  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:23 PM   #7 
  - Excuse me while I go piss on the Declaration of Independence  flvegan   Jun-06-07 08:39 PM   #13 
  - Pardon me if object to your urination...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:44 PM   #17 
  - Practical political issue?  flvegan   Jun-06-07 08:49 PM   #22 
     - But yes you DO when you insist on tilting at windmills  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:54 PM   #28 
        - Is that your only catch-phrase?  flvegan   Jun-06-07 09:32 PM   #50 
           - No your approach WILL fail because you DON'T HAVE THE VOTES..  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:34 PM   #51 
              - If I don't have the votes for what's right  flvegan   Jun-06-07 09:36 PM   #53 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-06-07 09:47 PM   #62 
  - But I thought...  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:45 PM   #19 
     - As a matter of law, no -but the Declaration should inform our reading of the Constitution  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:51 PM   #24 
     - But as a precedent for vaguely religious rhetoric...  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:54 PM   #27 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-06-07 08:52 PM   #25 
  - Told. nt  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:43 PM   #16 
     - Sorry for being stupid but what does "Told" mean? n/t  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:45 PM   #18 
     - Hahah. It means you beat him in the argument. nt  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:48 PM   #21 
        - OK but let's not be ugly or polarizing please...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:01 PM   #34 
           - If you want to keep from getting "ugly"...  Sapphocrat   Jun-06-07 10:53 PM   #107 
              - I didn't initiate the hostility, I just responded to it.  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:55 PM   #109 
     - Thanks, ref.  flvegan   Jun-06-07 09:45 PM   #60 
        - He just got here to regulate  Harvey Korman   Jun-06-07 10:39 PM   #97 
  - Agreed. Civil Rights cannot be "left up to the states" - that was proved  Dhalgren   Jun-06-07 08:31 PM   #12 
  - Well except that there is nothing directly in the law to support this..  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:43 PM   #15 
     - How were the legal bans on interracial marriages overturned in the  Dhalgren   Jun-06-07 11:35 PM   #135 
        - No you misunderstand...I'm not saying that there is no civil right to marriage  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:48 PM   #139 
  - Do you want to lose the election?  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:43 PM   #14 
     - Because it is a psychological emotional hot button wedge issue????  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:47 PM   #20 
     - Exactly  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:50 PM   #23 
        - The only way it will not cease to be an issue for them is if we cease to fucking exist  Harvey Korman   Jun-06-07 10:42 PM   #101 
           - I'm not blaming the victim..do you not get that partial success is better than none?  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:59 PM   #113 
              - State by state? You mean like the antigay amendments?  Harvey Korman   Jun-06-07 11:19 PM   #125 
                 - Exactly - if they push the state dominos down, you stand them UP...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:28 PM   #131 
     - Translation: "STFU you uppity queers  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-06-07 08:53 PM   #26 
     - No.  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:56 PM   #29 
     - That's not what you said two days ago...  Sapphocrat   Jun-06-07 09:14 PM   #44 
     - Mistranslation....  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:57 PM   #31 
     - Yeah  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:58 PM   #33 
     - It's pretty hard to outflank...  Sapphocrat   Jun-06-07 09:06 PM   #37 
     - Wrong....  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:13 PM   #42 
        - First, I will appreciate you refraining from impugning my literacy...  Sapphocrat   Jun-06-07 10:43 PM   #102 
           - One by one friend...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:05 PM   #115 
              - Hmmm... Well I'm doing the math and the way I figure it...  theHandpuppet   Jun-06-07 11:16 PM   #123 
                 - 1) Take a vacation to Massachutsetts..  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:19 PM   #127 
                    - Virginia has an amendment. Do you understand how constitutional law works?  Harvey Korman   Jun-06-07 11:29 PM   #132 
                    - FEDERAL consititutional grounds - Full Faith and Credit Clause  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:38 PM   #136 
                       - You don't think this has been tried?  Harvey Korman   Jun-06-07 11:46 PM   #138 
                          - Has there actually been a marriage or civil union statute in MA long enough?  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:53 AM   #166 
                             - It's been tried in federal court many times  Harvey Korman   Jun-07-07 12:58 AM   #171 
                                - Thank you!  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:03 AM   #175 
                    - I have a suggestion or two  theHandpuppet   Jun-06-07 11:43 PM   #137 
                       - OK so in a liberal state like Massachutsetts you can't over turn this?  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:55 PM   #141 
                          - No I don't expect miracles  theHandpuppet   Jun-07-07 12:05 AM   #146 
                             - Excuse me for not being as old as you...I'm only 40...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:19 AM   #149 
     - Tell me...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:08 PM   #72 
        - If you try to get some Federal pro gay marriage law passed  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:14 PM   #76 
           - Ok...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:19 PM   #81 
              - You need to begin to understand political reality...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:28 PM   #88 
                 - Way to make enemies!  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:39 PM   #96 
                    - I can't say "the gay community" but I can say you and other posters here  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:48 PM   #104 
                       - Excuse me?  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:54 PM   #108 
                          - Yes it is.  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:57 PM   #112 
                             - Well when you believe...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 11:00 PM   #114 
                                - No one was "telling" others - just expressing my opinion  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:07 PM   #116 
                                   - No?  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 11:13 PM   #119 
                                      - Putting words in my mouth again...n/t  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:14 PM   #121 
                                         - Really?  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 11:19 PM   #126 
                                            - You shan't get one because you did not read the quote apparently  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:31 PM   #133 
                                               - Well then...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 11:35 PM   #134 
                                               - Look in the mirror...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:52 PM   #140 
                                               - ROFLMAO  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:06 AM   #147 
                                               - Again you are hallucinating in place of listening..  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:22 AM   #150 
                                               - I tell ya what...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:31 AM   #153 
                                               - I didn't start the insults here... I just respond...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:33 AM   #156 
                                               - So you keep saying...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:40 AM   #159 
                                               - I don't see it...I've certainly taken quite a lot of arrows  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:43 AM   #161 
                                               - Guilty parties never see it!  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:49 AM   #164 
                                               - OK...that explains the "mate" then... silly me...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:55 AM   #168 
                                               - San Fran...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:59 AM   #172 
                                               - I get that I really do...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:09 AM   #177 
                                               - Don't believe for a moment...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 01:19 AM   #184 
     - And Lincoln didn't run on an anti-slavery platform  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 08:57 PM   #32 
     - i thought i saw this non sequitur  sniffa   Jun-06-07 09:05 PM   #36 
     - Hey, you're right!  Sapphocrat   Jun-06-07 09:08 PM   #38 
        - how odd  sniffa   Jun-06-07 09:09 PM   #39 
           - Hahahah. Alright.  LBJDemocrat   Jun-06-07 09:35 PM   #52 
              - Living proof of the old adage:  Sapphocrat   Jun-07-07 12:26 AM   #152 
     - I see  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-06-07 09:09 PM   #40 
        - NO he didn't say that, nor did I...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:19 PM   #46 
           - You keep speaking of gay marriage "states"  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-06-07 09:43 PM   #57 
              - Just the same, the states are the strategy HRC employs.  mondo joe   Jun-06-07 09:51 PM   #63 
              - And that still leaves 6 states doesn't it?  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:53 PM   #64 
     - BINGO!!!  theHandpuppet   Jun-06-07 11:12 PM   #118 
        - Oh brother...what a misrepresentation of my post...n/t  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:16 PM   #122 
           - You're as transparent as cellophane  theHandpuppet   Jun-06-07 11:21 PM   #128 
              - Ahh when in doubt call names....hmmm..  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:57 PM   #142 
                 - Oh there's no doubt about it.  theHandpuppet   Jun-07-07 12:01 AM   #144 
                    - Then why the hell do you keep replying?  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:23 AM   #151 
     - if that is how you want to frame it  sniffa   Jun-06-07 09:03 PM   #35 
     - No he never said that, you put those words in his mouth.  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:11 PM   #41 
        - no, that's what's happening here  sniffa   Jun-06-07 09:13 PM   #43 
           - Well good luck my friend because you don't have the cards to back it up..  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:16 PM   #45 
              - weLL, good Luck my friend  sniffa   Jun-06-07 09:22 PM   #47 
                 - It will hurt you far more than me...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:37 PM   #55 
     - Ask yourself this question:  flvegan   Jun-06-07 09:31 PM   #49 
     - What a load of crap...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:43 PM   #58 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-06-07 09:47 PM   #61 
           - No we control it by a razor margin...apparently you can't read??  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:55 PM   #65 
     - Not this shit again. n/t  Jamastiene   Jun-06-07 09:39 PM   #56 
     - Oh please, not this SHIT again.  Harvey Korman   Jun-06-07 10:31 PM   #90 
  - I think you have the wrong quote up.  Connie_Corleone   Jun-06-07 08:28 PM   #9 
  - The quote was sent to me as the example of the issue  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 08:31 PM   #11 
  - Then it gets worse in the follow up.  Buck Rabbit   Jun-06-07 09:44 PM   #59 
  - Putting unspoken words into Edwards mouth that he never said..  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:57 PM   #66 
     - Read both quotes, questions and followups again  Buck Rabbit   Jun-06-07 10:22 PM   #85 
        - No, I think it means he can recognize that he is not God  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:32 PM   #93 
           - I understand his political position on this.  Buck Rabbit   Jun-06-07 10:49 PM   #106 
              - I was given the quote by an Edwards objector which  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:10 PM   #117 
  - I'm surprised that you can be shown the new quote without changing your opinion on whether outrage..  JVS   Jun-06-07 10:41 PM   #99 
     - why? Because I can recognize that people can have  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:14 PM   #120 
  - There can never be a complete separation  wtmusic   Jun-06-07 09:36 PM   #54 
     - that's just your opinion, not a fact...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 09:58 PM   #67 
        - Banning abortion couldn't have happened during the Clinton administration  wtmusic   Jun-06-07 11:21 PM   #129 
           - I don't know thatwas true in 1995...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:59 PM   #143 
  - As a gay man, I have little issue with Edwards on this matter - but you're confused  mondo joe   Jun-06-07 09:23 PM   #48 
  - Thanks and I would agree that marriage is the ultimate goal.  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:04 PM   #69 
     - Frankly, I don't care much about hetero couples in this scenario. If they want  mondo joe   Jun-06-07 10:08 PM   #71 
        - True but it gives you an ally to get the message passed..  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:17 PM   #78 
           - I'm fine with the political advantage of it. But I'm not prepared to feel anything about it  mondo joe   Jun-06-07 10:20 PM   #83 
              - OK... I'm not asking you to "feel" anything about it...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:24 PM   #86 
                 - Understood.  mondo joe   Jun-06-07 10:31 PM   #91 
  - Quit Acting Like We're Trying to Steal Your Holy Thing...  Madspirit   Jun-06-07 09:59 PM   #68 
  - Well you have a problem then...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:11 PM   #73 
  - Straight People Don't Get to Decide  Madspirit   Jun-06-07 10:04 PM   #70 
  - I still get to express MY opinion over whether I believe your anger is justified  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:13 PM   #74 
     - Way to win people over to your side  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:16 PM   #77 
        - Get over yourself already...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:18 PM   #79 
           - Excuse me...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:31 PM   #92 
              - Yes you DID - "Straight people don't get to decide"...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:36 PM   #94 
                 - Exactly what has...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:42 PM   #100 
                    - I have ALL THE RIGHT INTHE WORLD TO EXPRESS MY OPINION  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 11:17 PM   #124 
                       - Mate...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 11:26 PM   #130 
                          - That last sentence doesn't even make sense...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:04 AM   #145 
                             - Are you capable...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:10 AM   #148 
                                - Of course...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:56 AM   #169 
                                   - Then...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 01:01 AM   #173 
                                      - not a problem...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:10 AM   #179 
  - Misplaced outrage, huh?  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:13 PM   #75 
  - Oh give it a rest... only YOU have a free speech right?  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:20 PM   #82 
     - Why don't you give it a rest?  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:27 PM   #87 
        - NO - you DIDN'T give answers, just more ANGER...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:30 PM   #89 
           - Excuse me...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:44 PM   #103 
              - I have explained to you why I think you are reading far too much into it.  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:45 AM   #162 
                 - Mate...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:51 AM   #165 
                    - Let's see if I understand this situation?  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:01 AM   #174 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-07 01:08 AM   #176 
                          - Well were you INVOLVED in American politics???  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:23 AM   #186 
                             - I did what I could...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 01:29 AM   #193 
                                - Nope - I've been to 17 countries on 5 continents but Austrailia is  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:36 AM   #202 
                                   - And if you think...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 01:44 AM   #212 
  - Of course it's misplaced  ZombyWoof   Jun-06-07 10:19 PM   #80 
  - Well I'm about done "reasoning" for this evening...  ddeclue   Jun-06-07 10:22 PM   #84 
     - Yea, I know what you mean. That uppity Martin Luther King  cboy4   Jun-06-07 10:38 PM   #95 
     - Hysterical, even.  Harvey Korman   Jun-06-07 10:49 PM   #105 
     - Actually you don't seem to know much about it do you?  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:32 AM   #154 
        - Actually, I do know much about it.  cboy4   Jun-07-07 01:11 AM   #180 
           - Yeah? Does that graphic change any of the historical facts I stated?  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:26 AM   #190 
     - Well...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-06-07 10:57 PM   #111 
        - Hmm...what makes you think I have a "messiah" complex?  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:35 AM   #157 
           - Nope!  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 12:54 AM   #167 
              - ???? What??? Last sentence makes no sense to me...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:58 AM   #170 
                 - I explained it...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 01:13 AM   #181 
                    - Well you can call me stupid then...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:27 AM   #192 
                       - Don't tempt me! n/t  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 01:33 AM   #200 
                          - OK....as you please...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:37 AM   #204 
  - What he said was not helpful. It was a hedge.  rucky   Jun-06-07 10:40 PM   #98 
  - Neither Edwards nor I feel "laissez faire" about it  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:37 AM   #158 
  - "rights delayed are rights denied"  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 12:33 AM   #155 
  - This is true but there is also:  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 12:40 AM   #160 
     - Ok, I am going to be blunt:  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 12:45 AM   #163 
     - No it's not....  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:14 AM   #182 
     - Doesn't matter--you still HAVE the choice to exercise your privileges  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:22 AM   #185 
        - As a real world matter they are...  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:29 AM   #194 
           - No, you shouldn't "have" to back rights with votes  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:31 AM   #196 
              - Laws are passed by voters.  ddeclue   Jun-07-07 01:40 AM   #208 
                 - And the laws have to be in line with the constiution  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:42 AM   #209 
     - Hey, WRX...  Sapphocrat   Jun-07-07 01:24 AM   #188 
        - yo Sappocrat, mad hugs to ya!  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:25 AM   #189 
     - This argument will go nowhere...  whoneedstickets   Jun-07-07 01:09 AM   #178 
        - And you're such an expert on the subject...  Sapphocrat   Jun-07-07 01:18 AM   #183 
        - Name calling, profanity and threats...  whoneedstickets   Jun-07-07 01:27 AM   #191 
           - Hahahahahaha!  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-07-07 01:32 AM   #197 
           - Show me...  Sapphocrat   Jun-07-07 01:34 AM   #201 
              - Ok..  whoneedstickets   Jun-07-07 01:38 AM   #205 
        - Of course the community is demanding equal social status  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:24 AM   #187 
        - Well, consider the source of what he's quoting...  Sapphocrat   Jun-07-07 01:31 AM   #195 
        - Wow.  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:33 AM   #199 
        - Is the map not true? Because isn't that what he brought from the site?  JVS   Jun-07-07 01:44 AM   #213 
        - I'm suggesting that we understand the difference  whoneedstickets   Jun-07-07 01:32 AM   #198 
           - Thanks for proving my point.  Sapphocrat   Jun-07-07 01:37 AM   #203 
           - Then Tell me what it was about...  whoneedstickets   Jun-07-07 01:39 AM   #207 
           - here's my dig:  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:39 AM   #206 
        - 300 posts in two years and it took this to inspire you to comment?  Bluebear   Jun-07-07 01:42 AM   #210 
           - same ol' bullshit huh?  WindRavenX   Jun-07-07 01:44 AM   #211 
              - Yeah, we will just wait for "society's opinion to change" for our rights.  Bluebear   Jun-07-07 01:45 AM   #214 
  - Locking.  pinto   Jun-07-07 01:47 AM   #215 
 

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