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and a failure to recognize the practical political reality that you can't get 38 states to change the Constitution or a 2/3's +1 vote to pass Federal legislation at this point.
Instead of running head long into a brick wall, buy a LADDER!
Get it passed in enough state legislatures and use the court systems and you can get gay marriage nationwide. Try to cram it down people's throats directly and it won't happen - but a rightie backlash WILL happen which will actually set your cause back.
Don't use a frontal assault, outflank them!
Doug D.
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| -GLBT outrage at Edwards misplaced... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 07:29 PM |
#0 |
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Who is trying to force religions to "bless" gay marriage? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-06-07 07:55 PM |
#1 |
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I had a conversation with a fundie who thought gay marriage meant that churches |
ourbluenation |
Jun-06-07 07:59 PM |
#2 |
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They don't want the government to tell them how to run the churches |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-06-07 08:25 PM |
#8 |
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Yeah that's the joke about "what's the difference between a Dem and a Republican?" |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:29 PM |
#10 |
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I agree that should be made abundantly clear |
LiberalFighter |
Jun-06-07 08:57 PM |
#30 |
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This guy right here on DU seems to think that was the problem |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:01 PM |
#3 |
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Because the RW talking point has worked its magic... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:17 PM |
#5 |
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Indeed |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-06-07 08:23 PM |
#6 |
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Yeah, I know -- even here on DU too many don't know the difference |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-06-07 10:56 PM |
#110 |
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Are other basic civil rights state mandated or are they federal? |
flvegan |
Jun-06-07 08:09 PM |
#4 |
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Some other basic rights ARE state mandated |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:23 PM |
#7 |
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Excuse me while I go piss on the Declaration of Independence |
flvegan |
Jun-06-07 08:39 PM |
#13 |
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Pardon me if object to your urination... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:44 PM |
#17 |
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Practical political issue? |
flvegan |
Jun-06-07 08:49 PM |
#22 |
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But yes you DO when you insist on tilting at windmills |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:54 PM |
#28 |
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Is that your only catch-phrase? |
flvegan |
Jun-06-07 09:32 PM |
#50 |
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No your approach WILL fail because you DON'T HAVE THE VOTES.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:34 PM |
#51 |
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If I don't have the votes for what's right |
flvegan |
Jun-06-07 09:36 PM |
#53 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-06-07 09:47 PM |
#62 |
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But I thought... |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:45 PM |
#19 |
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As a matter of law, no -but the Declaration should inform our reading of the Constitution |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:51 PM |
#24 |
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But as a precedent for vaguely religious rhetoric... |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:54 PM |
#27 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jun-06-07 08:52 PM |
#25 |
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Told. nt |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:43 PM |
#16 |
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Sorry for being stupid but what does "Told" mean? n/t |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:45 PM |
#18 |
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Hahah. It means you beat him in the argument. nt |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:48 PM |
#21 |
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OK but let's not be ugly or polarizing please... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:01 PM |
#34 |
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If you want to keep from getting "ugly"... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-06-07 10:53 PM |
#107 |
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I didn't initiate the hostility, I just responded to it. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:55 PM |
#109 |
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Thanks, ref. |
flvegan |
Jun-06-07 09:45 PM |
#60 |
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He just got here to regulate |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-06-07 10:39 PM |
#97 |
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Agreed. Civil Rights cannot be "left up to the states" - that was proved |
Dhalgren |
Jun-06-07 08:31 PM |
#12 |
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Well except that there is nothing directly in the law to support this.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:43 PM |
#15 |
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How were the legal bans on interracial marriages overturned in the |
Dhalgren |
Jun-06-07 11:35 PM |
#135 |
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No you misunderstand...I'm not saying that there is no civil right to marriage |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:48 PM |
#139 |
| -
Do you want to lose the election? |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:43 PM |
#14 |
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Because it is a psychological emotional hot button wedge issue???? |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:47 PM |
#20 |
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Exactly |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:50 PM |
#23 |
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The only way it will not cease to be an issue for them is if we cease to fucking exist |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-06-07 10:42 PM |
#101 |
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I'm not blaming the victim..do you not get that partial success is better than none? |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:59 PM |
#113 |
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State by state? You mean like the antigay amendments? |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-06-07 11:19 PM |
#125 |
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Exactly - if they push the state dominos down, you stand them UP... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:28 PM |
#131 |
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Translation: "STFU you uppity queers |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-06-07 08:53 PM |
#26 |
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No. |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:56 PM |
#29 |
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That's not what you said two days ago... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-06-07 09:14 PM |
#44 |
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Mistranslation.... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:57 PM |
#31 |
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Yeah |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:58 PM |
#33 |
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It's pretty hard to outflank... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-06-07 09:06 PM |
#37 |
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Wrong.... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:13 PM |
#42 |
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First, I will appreciate you refraining from impugning my literacy... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-06-07 10:43 PM |
#102 |
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One by one friend... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:05 PM |
#115 |
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Hmmm... Well I'm doing the math and the way I figure it... |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-06-07 11:16 PM |
#123 |
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1) Take a vacation to Massachutsetts.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:19 PM |
#127 |
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Virginia has an amendment. Do you understand how constitutional law works? |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-06-07 11:29 PM |
#132 |
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FEDERAL consititutional grounds - Full Faith and Credit Clause |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:38 PM |
#136 |
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You don't think this has been tried? |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-06-07 11:46 PM |
#138 |
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Has there actually been a marriage or civil union statute in MA long enough? |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:53 AM |
#166 |
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It's been tried in federal court many times |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-07-07 12:58 AM |
#171 |
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Thank you! |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:03 AM |
#175 |
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I have a suggestion or two |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-06-07 11:43 PM |
#137 |
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OK so in a liberal state like Massachutsetts you can't over turn this? |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:55 PM |
#141 |
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No I don't expect miracles |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-07-07 12:05 AM |
#146 |
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Excuse me for not being as old as you...I'm only 40... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:19 AM |
#149 |
| -
Tell me... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:08 PM |
#72 |
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If you try to get some Federal pro gay marriage law passed |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:14 PM |
#76 |
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Ok... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:19 PM |
#81 |
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You need to begin to understand political reality... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:28 PM |
#88 |
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Way to make enemies! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:39 PM |
#96 |
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I can't say "the gay community" but I can say you and other posters here |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:48 PM |
#104 |
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Excuse me? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:54 PM |
#108 |
| -
Yes it is. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:57 PM |
#112 |
| -
Well when you believe... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 11:00 PM |
#114 |
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No one was "telling" others - just expressing my opinion |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:07 PM |
#116 |
| -
No? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 11:13 PM |
#119 |
| -
Putting words in my mouth again...n/t |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:14 PM |
#121 |
| -
Really? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 11:19 PM |
#126 |
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You shan't get one because you did not read the quote apparently |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:31 PM |
#133 |
| -
Well then... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 11:35 PM |
#134 |
| -
Look in the mirror... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:52 PM |
#140 |
| -
ROFLMAO |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:06 AM |
#147 |
| -
Again you are hallucinating in place of listening.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:22 AM |
#150 |
| -
I tell ya what... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:31 AM |
#153 |
| -
I didn't start the insults here... I just respond... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:33 AM |
#156 |
| -
So you keep saying... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:40 AM |
#159 |
| -
I don't see it...I've certainly taken quite a lot of arrows |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:43 AM |
#161 |
| -
Guilty parties never see it! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:49 AM |
#164 |
| -
OK...that explains the "mate" then... silly me... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:55 AM |
#168 |
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San Fran... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:59 AM |
#172 |
| -
I get that I really do... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:09 AM |
#177 |
| -
Don't believe for a moment... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 01:19 AM |
#184 |
| -
And Lincoln didn't run on an anti-slavery platform |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 08:57 PM |
#32 |
| -
i thought i saw this non sequitur |
sniffa |
Jun-06-07 09:05 PM |
#36 |
| -
Hey, you're right! |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-06-07 09:08 PM |
#38 |
| -
how odd |
sniffa |
Jun-06-07 09:09 PM |
#39 |
| -
Hahahah. Alright. |
LBJDemocrat |
Jun-06-07 09:35 PM |
#52 |
| -
Living proof of the old adage: |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-07-07 12:26 AM |
#152 |
| -
I see |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-06-07 09:09 PM |
#40 |
| -
NO he didn't say that, nor did I... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:19 PM |
#46 |
| -
You keep speaking of gay marriage "states" |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jun-06-07 09:43 PM |
#57 |
| -
Just the same, the states are the strategy HRC employs. |
mondo joe |
Jun-06-07 09:51 PM |
#63 |
| -
And that still leaves 6 states doesn't it? |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:53 PM |
#64 |
| -
BINGO!!! |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-06-07 11:12 PM |
#118 |
| -
Oh brother...what a misrepresentation of my post...n/t |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:16 PM |
#122 |
| -
You're as transparent as cellophane |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-06-07 11:21 PM |
#128 |
| -
Ahh when in doubt call names....hmmm.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:57 PM |
#142 |
| -
Oh there's no doubt about it. |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-07-07 12:01 AM |
#144 |
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Then why the hell do you keep replying? |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:23 AM |
#151 |
| -
if that is how you want to frame it |
sniffa |
Jun-06-07 09:03 PM |
#35 |
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No he never said that, you put those words in his mouth. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:11 PM |
#41 |
| -
no, that's what's happening here |
sniffa |
Jun-06-07 09:13 PM |
#43 |
| -
Well good luck my friend because you don't have the cards to back it up.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:16 PM |
#45 |
| -
weLL, good Luck my friend |
sniffa |
Jun-06-07 09:22 PM |
#47 |
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It will hurt you far more than me... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:37 PM |
#55 |
| -
Ask yourself this question: |
flvegan |
Jun-06-07 09:31 PM |
#49 |
| -
What a load of crap... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:43 PM |
#58 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-06-07 09:47 PM |
#61 |
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No we control it by a razor margin...apparently you can't read?? |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:55 PM |
#65 |
| -
Not this shit again. n/t |
Jamastiene |
Jun-06-07 09:39 PM |
#56 |
| -
Oh please, not this SHIT again. |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-06-07 10:31 PM |
#90 |
| -
I think you have the wrong quote up. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jun-06-07 08:28 PM |
#9 |
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The quote was sent to me as the example of the issue |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 08:31 PM |
#11 |
| -
Then it gets worse in the follow up. |
Buck Rabbit |
Jun-06-07 09:44 PM |
#59 |
| -
Putting unspoken words into Edwards mouth that he never said.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:57 PM |
#66 |
| -
Read both quotes, questions and followups again |
Buck Rabbit |
Jun-06-07 10:22 PM |
#85 |
| -
No, I think it means he can recognize that he is not God |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:32 PM |
#93 |
| -
I understand his political position on this. |
Buck Rabbit |
Jun-06-07 10:49 PM |
#106 |
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I was given the quote by an Edwards objector which |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:10 PM |
#117 |
| -
I'm surprised that you can be shown the new quote without changing your opinion on whether outrage.. |
JVS |
Jun-06-07 10:41 PM |
#99 |
| -
why? Because I can recognize that people can have |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:14 PM |
#120 |
| -
There can never be a complete separation |
wtmusic |
Jun-06-07 09:36 PM |
#54 |
| -
that's just your opinion, not a fact... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 09:58 PM |
#67 |
| -
Banning abortion couldn't have happened during the Clinton administration |
wtmusic |
Jun-06-07 11:21 PM |
#129 |
| -
I don't know thatwas true in 1995... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:59 PM |
#143 |
| -
As a gay man, I have little issue with Edwards on this matter - but you're confused |
mondo joe |
Jun-06-07 09:23 PM |
#48 |
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Thanks and I would agree that marriage is the ultimate goal. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:04 PM |
#69 |
| -
Frankly, I don't care much about hetero couples in this scenario. If they want |
mondo joe |
Jun-06-07 10:08 PM |
#71 |
| -
True but it gives you an ally to get the message passed.. |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:17 PM |
#78 |
| -
I'm fine with the political advantage of it. But I'm not prepared to feel anything about it |
mondo joe |
Jun-06-07 10:20 PM |
#83 |
| -
OK... I'm not asking you to "feel" anything about it... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:24 PM |
#86 |
| -
Understood. |
mondo joe |
Jun-06-07 10:31 PM |
#91 |
| -
Quit Acting Like We're Trying to Steal Your Holy Thing... |
Madspirit |
Jun-06-07 09:59 PM |
#68 |
| -
Well you have a problem then... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:11 PM |
#73 |
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Straight People Don't Get to Decide |
Madspirit |
Jun-06-07 10:04 PM |
#70 |
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I still get to express MY opinion over whether I believe your anger is justified |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:13 PM |
#74 |
| -
Way to win people over to your side |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:16 PM |
#77 |
| -
Get over yourself already... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:18 PM |
#79 |
| -
Excuse me... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:31 PM |
#92 |
| -
Yes you DID - "Straight people don't get to decide"... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:36 PM |
#94 |
| -
Exactly what has... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:42 PM |
#100 |
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I have ALL THE RIGHT INTHE WORLD TO EXPRESS MY OPINION |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 11:17 PM |
#124 |
| -
Mate... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 11:26 PM |
#130 |
| -
That last sentence doesn't even make sense... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:04 AM |
#145 |
| -
Are you capable... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:10 AM |
#148 |
| -
Of course... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:56 AM |
#169 |
| -
Then... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 01:01 AM |
#173 |
| -
not a problem... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:10 AM |
#179 |
| -
Misplaced outrage, huh? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:13 PM |
#75 |
| -
Oh give it a rest... only YOU have a free speech right? |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:20 PM |
#82 |
| -
Why don't you give it a rest? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:27 PM |
#87 |
| -
NO - you DIDN'T give answers, just more ANGER... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:30 PM |
#89 |
| -
Excuse me... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:44 PM |
#103 |
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I have explained to you why I think you are reading far too much into it. |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:45 AM |
#162 |
| -
Mate... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:51 AM |
#165 |
| -
Let's see if I understand this situation? |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:01 AM |
#174 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-07-07 01:08 AM |
#176 |
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Well were you INVOLVED in American politics??? |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:23 AM |
#186 |
| -
I did what I could... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 01:29 AM |
#193 |
| -
Nope - I've been to 17 countries on 5 continents but Austrailia is |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:36 AM |
#202 |
| -
And if you think... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 01:44 AM |
#212 |
| -
Of course it's misplaced |
ZombyWoof |
Jun-06-07 10:19 PM |
#80 |
| -
Well I'm about done "reasoning" for this evening... |
ddeclue |
Jun-06-07 10:22 PM |
#84 |
| -
Yea, I know what you mean. That uppity Martin Luther King |
cboy4 |
Jun-06-07 10:38 PM |
#95 |
| -
Hysterical, even. |
Harvey Korman |
Jun-06-07 10:49 PM |
#105 |
| -
Actually you don't seem to know much about it do you? |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:32 AM |
#154 |
| -
Actually, I do know much about it. |
cboy4 |
Jun-07-07 01:11 AM |
#180 |
| -
Yeah? Does that graphic change any of the historical facts I stated? |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:26 AM |
#190 |
| -
Well... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-06-07 10:57 PM |
#111 |
| -
Hmm...what makes you think I have a "messiah" complex? |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:35 AM |
#157 |
| -
Nope! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 12:54 AM |
#167 |
| -
???? What??? Last sentence makes no sense to me... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:58 AM |
#170 |
| -
I explained it... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 01:13 AM |
#181 |
| -
Well you can call me stupid then... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:27 AM |
#192 |
| -
Don't tempt me! n/t |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 01:33 AM |
#200 |
| -
OK....as you please... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:37 AM |
#204 |
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What he said was not helpful. It was a hedge. |
rucky |
Jun-06-07 10:40 PM |
#98 |
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Neither Edwards nor I feel "laissez faire" about it |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:37 AM |
#158 |
| -
"rights delayed are rights denied" |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 12:33 AM |
#155 |
| -
This is true but there is also: |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 12:40 AM |
#160 |
| -
Ok, I am going to be blunt: |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 12:45 AM |
#163 |
| -
No it's not.... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:14 AM |
#182 |
| -
Doesn't matter--you still HAVE the choice to exercise your privileges |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:22 AM |
#185 |
| -
As a real world matter they are... |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:29 AM |
#194 |
| -
No, you shouldn't "have" to back rights with votes |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:31 AM |
#196 |
| -
Laws are passed by voters. |
ddeclue |
Jun-07-07 01:40 AM |
#208 |
| -
And the laws have to be in line with the constiution |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:42 AM |
#209 |
| -
Hey, WRX... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-07-07 01:24 AM |
#188 |
| -
yo Sappocrat, mad hugs to ya! |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:25 AM |
#189 |
| -
This argument will go nowhere... |
whoneedstickets |
Jun-07-07 01:09 AM |
#178 |
| -
And you're such an expert on the subject... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-07-07 01:18 AM |
#183 |
| -
Name calling, profanity and threats... |
whoneedstickets |
Jun-07-07 01:27 AM |
#191 |
| -
Hahahahahaha! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jun-07-07 01:32 AM |
#197 |
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Show me... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-07-07 01:34 AM |
#201 |
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Ok.. |
whoneedstickets |
Jun-07-07 01:38 AM |
#205 |
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Of course the community is demanding equal social status |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:24 AM |
#187 |
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Well, consider the source of what he's quoting... |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-07-07 01:31 AM |
#195 |
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Wow. |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:33 AM |
#199 |
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Is the map not true? Because isn't that what he brought from the site? |
JVS |
Jun-07-07 01:44 AM |
#213 |
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I'm suggesting that we understand the difference |
whoneedstickets |
Jun-07-07 01:32 AM |
#198 |
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Thanks for proving my point. |
Sapphocrat |
Jun-07-07 01:37 AM |
#203 |
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Then Tell me what it was about... |
whoneedstickets |
Jun-07-07 01:39 AM |
#207 |
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here's my dig: |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:39 AM |
#206 |
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300 posts in two years and it took this to inspire you to comment? |
Bluebear |
Jun-07-07 01:42 AM |
#210 |
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same ol' bullshit huh? |
WindRavenX |
Jun-07-07 01:44 AM |
#211 |
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Yeah, we will just wait for "society's opinion to change" for our rights. |
Bluebear |
Jun-07-07 01:45 AM |
#214 |
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Locking. |
pinto |
Jun-07-07 01:47 AM |
#215 |
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