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26. mighty nice of you to say who should and shouldn't be in he debates /nt
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  -Gravel, Dodd, Kucinich all irrelevant, step out and reduce dilution dusmcj  Jun-03-07 09:00 PM   #0 
  - Dodd's leadership on the Iraq Supplemental Bill is hardly irrelevant  pstans   Jun-03-07 09:02 PM   #1 
  - You are a poster child for the clueless party operatives - signed - irrelevant leftie  The Count   Jun-03-07 09:03 PM   #2 
  - Hear, hear!  notsodumbhillbilly   Jun-03-07 09:04 PM   #3 
  - Hey, Count, thanks for turning the thread into a excuse for pointless insults.  Bucky   Jun-03-07 09:06 PM   #8 
  - Two quotes by you.  Forkboy   Jun-03-07 09:09 PM   #13 
  - Yeah, I get this way when war is considered a "strategy".  The Count   Jun-03-07 09:10 PM   #14 
  - Talk about the clueless serial Democratic candidate attacker calling the pot black!!!  Czolgosz   Jun-03-07 09:07 PM   #10 
  - Nicely said!  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-03-07 09:13 PM   #18 
  - Ditto  earthside   Jun-03-07 09:21 PM   #27 
  - Glad to oblige, someone has to do it. nm  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 09:37 PM   #44 
  - Indeed. nm  dicksteele   Jun-03-07 09:22 PM   #29 
  - Word! The opportunity to hear these voices speak out is valuable.  TahitiNut   Jun-03-07 09:25 PM   #34 
  - they're not the only ones who ultimately should leave  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 09:33 PM   #40 
  - There's that worn out meme again  notsodumbhillbilly   Jun-03-07 09:42 PM   # 
     - It's a cliche because it's true.  TheWraith   Jun-04-07 04:54 PM   #157 
  - Thank You!  alittlelark   Jun-03-07 10:10 PM   #78 
  - I agree with losing Gravel. He's just being a snarky old dude.  Bucky   Jun-03-07 09:04 PM   #4 
  - Without the "snarky old dude" you'd all be drafted and shipped where W wanted ya  The Count   Jun-03-07 09:06 PM   #9 
  - He did? I thought it was Uncle Milt.  hfojvt   Jun-03-07 09:14 PM   #19 
  - Gravel struck the killing blow in the Draft.  MiltonF   Jun-03-07 10:01 PM   #66 
     - speak of the devil  hfojvt   Jun-03-07 10:53 PM   #111 
        - Before I enlisted, the first question everyone asked me was...  MiltonF   Jun-04-07 01:54 AM   #129 
  - Gravel says he "ended the draft".  SOS   Jun-04-07 06:43 PM   #159 
  - While I do agree with Kucinich I also agree with you that  Echotrail   Jun-04-07 06:42 AM   #137 
  - This whole process started way too early.  evlbstrd   Jun-03-07 09:04 PM   #5 
  - Gimme a break. Kucinich is necessary.  graywarrior   Jun-03-07 09:05 PM   #6 
  - Ted Koppel, is that you?  dweller   Jun-03-07 09:05 PM   #7 
  - Hmm, I thought maybe Tweety...but Ted is no less clueless.  The Count   Jun-03-07 09:08 PM   #11 
  - Sounds more like Harold to me.  notsodumbhillbilly   Jun-03-07 09:08 PM   #12 
  - Sorry but they are NOT irrelevant.  Desertrose   Jun-03-07 09:12 PM   #15 
  - Well said, friend!  LWolf   Jun-03-07 09:23 PM   #32 
  - The "winnowing out" is called the primaries.  Matsubara   Jun-03-07 09:12 PM   #16 
  - This debate happens every four years  MonkeyFunk   Jun-03-07 09:13 PM   #17 
  - Would that be the irrelevant left that got Democrats into majority?  sfexpat2000   Jun-03-07 09:14 PM   #20 
  - you misspelled "disgusted moderate voters"  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 09:42 PM   #49 
     - You may be right. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jun-03-07 09:47 PM   #55 
     - Then why did so many lefties win primaries over the party favorites?  jgraz   Jun-04-07 04:51 AM   #132 
  - Kucinich is right about pretty much everything (nm)  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-03-07 09:14 PM   #21 
  - Everything.  lonestarnot   Jun-03-07 09:19 PM   #24 
  - not on bin laden.. bin laden isn't a world leader, and he called an attack on him  still_one   Jun-03-07 09:23 PM   #31 
  - Technically wrong but logically right  camero   Jun-03-07 09:31 PM   #38 
  - Perhaps, but that position would never be accepted by most people in the U.S.  still_one   Jun-03-07 09:35 PM   #41 
     - Unfortunately you're most likely correct  camero   Jun-03-07 09:40 PM   #46 
  - He should have just said that trying to assasinate a single person with a missile is stupid.  Solon   Jun-03-07 10:31 PM   #92 
     - It worked on that sheik  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:41 PM   #102 
        - Why don't we just nuke the shit out of these countries...  Solon   Jun-03-07 10:45 PM   #107 
           - no, but firing a rocket from a helicopter at a terrorist sheik in a wheelchair  dusmcj   Jun-04-07 01:34 AM   #126 
  - Word. I'm pretty sure that, this cycle, I'm not voting for...  Tesha   Jun-04-07 07:16 AM   #138 
  - Primary voters and donations will do the "winnowing out"  eleny   Jun-03-07 09:16 PM   #22 
  - Generally, it is considered smart to wait for a primary  realpolitik   Jun-03-07 09:18 PM   #23 
  - Kucinich Is "The Firebrand" Against The War & I Agree With Most Of  ChiciB1   Jun-03-07 09:20 PM   #25 
  - Why let the MSM decide who you vote for in the primaries?  MadHound   Jun-03-07 10:36 PM   #97 
     - YOU Seem To Be Missing My Point. I've Made My Decision About  ChiciB1   Jun-04-07 08:50 AM   #143 
        - So, in other words, you are will to continue being a slave to corporate MSM  MadHound   Jun-04-07 09:44 AM   #146 
           - I'm Well Aware Of What Corporations Are Doing... If It Were Left Up  ChiciB1   Jun-04-07 02:53 PM   #151 
  - mighty nice of you to say who should and shouldn't be in he debates /nt  still_one   Jun-03-07 09:20 PM   #26 
  - they can be in the debates, I'm suggesting they leave the campaign.  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 09:46 PM   #53 
  - You want to winnow? Ok!  LWolf   Jun-03-07 09:21 PM   #28 
  - Excellent! Beautifully said!  scarletwoman   Jun-03-07 10:37 PM   #100 
  - They say popular things no one else says; HOW IS THAT IRRELEVANT?  StudentProgressive   Jun-03-07 09:22 PM   #30 
  - but I want relevant, not popular. This is not a fucking beauty contest  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 09:53 PM   #61 
     - If it's not a beauty contest why are Hillary Obama and Edwards running?  StudentProgressive   Jun-03-07 10:08 PM   #75 
     - Oh but it is. A corporate beauty contest to see which whore can give them the best...  arendt   Jun-03-07 10:11 PM   #80 
        - content-free voices don't help that condition  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:35 PM   #96 
           - You have no idea what you're talking about.  Tesha   Jun-04-07 09:12 AM   #144 
  - Better yet lose Clinton, favor Kucinich, and pray Gore runs again.  SnoopDog   Jun-03-07 09:24 PM   #33 
  - I'd so like to see a Kucinich Presidency  mvd   Jun-03-07 09:31 PM   #39 
     - Everybody, it seems, is afraid of doing the right thing...  SnoopDog   Jun-03-07 09:55 PM   #62 
  - I Agree With You. I'd Rather Listen To Real Candidates As Well.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-03-07 09:28 PM   #35 
  - Same here  question everything   Jun-03-07 09:40 PM   #48 
  - Realistic is the key word  Quixote1818   Jun-03-07 09:53 PM   #60 
  - What's your rush? Hmmmmm?  annabanana   Jun-03-07 09:28 PM   #36 
  - oh fucking yawn  sniffa   Jun-03-07 09:28 PM   #37 
  - So, you are against peace? That is what DK is running on.  Steve_DeShazer   Jun-03-07 09:35 PM   #42 
  - Agree with you. DK must stay.  Hardrada   Jun-03-07 09:42 PM   #50 
  - That's why it's the John F. Kennedy special warfare school  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:03 PM   #70 
  - Okay, so you are against peace.  Steve_DeShazer   Jun-03-07 10:10 PM   #79 
  - this from the guy who signed off  northzax   Jun-03-07 11:21 PM   #122 
  - That's what primaries are for.  WilliamPitt   Jun-03-07 09:37 PM   #43 
  - I think Biden and Richardson add nothing to the debate, but I wouldn't exclude them because that's  Czolgosz   Jun-03-07 09:38 PM   #45 
  - Biden DID add public campaign financing today though!  calipendence   Jun-03-07 09:51 PM   #59 
  - Aw, come on............  Byronic   Jun-04-07 07:51 AM   #142 
  - As a member of the "irrelevant left", I'll be happy to step aside & let you have the Dems to yrself.  scarletwoman   Jun-03-07 09:40 PM   #47 
  - kinda funny how irrlevant we are till the centrists are begging for us to vote  KG   Jun-03-07 09:44 PM   #52 
  - said it... true...but with all that money and hopes of Repug and Indie turnout for Dems  KoKo01   Jun-03-07 09:50 PM   #58 
  - the dem party has spent the last 25 years trying to get repugs to vote for them, then acted  KG   Jun-03-07 09:59 PM   #65 
  - Word on that. But this time I fully intend to remain "irrelevant".  scarletwoman   Jun-03-07 09:58 PM   #64 
  - rock on, sistah. going back to voting my hopes instead my fears.  KG   Jun-03-07 10:15 PM   #84 
  - LOL!  Echotrail   Jun-04-07 07:18 AM   #139 
  - I'll be happy to stay home on election day too.  libnnc   Jun-04-07 12:13 AM   #124 
  - Gravel, Dennis and Dodd are a waste of space and time on the debates.  Katzenkavalier   Jun-03-07 09:44 PM   #51 
  - Why?  Steve_DeShazer   Jun-03-07 09:49 PM   #57 
  - True, only Wall Street's candidates should get to compete  StudentProgressive   Jun-03-07 10:42 PM   #104 
  - Careful, we've heavily criticized the Repubs treatment of Ron Paul...  calipendence   Jun-03-07 09:46 PM   #54 
  - a first round of winnowing out? We're still seven months from the Iowa Caucus  fishwax   Jun-03-07 09:48 PM   #56 
  - Maybe more debates might be better. We do own the airwaves, right?  Peggy Day   Jun-03-07 09:58 PM   #63 
  - Gravel, Dodd, Kucinich should drop out?  thethinker   Jun-03-07 10:02 PM   #67 
  - I'm expressing my opinion that they will shortly start decreasing Dem effectiveness  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:08 PM   #76 
     - OK, how about a deal, since the left is "irrelevent" why don't we sit out this election...  Solon   Jun-03-07 10:23 PM   #87 
     - That's precisely what I plan to do. I figure, no harm - since I'm irrelevant anyway, right? (nt)  scarletwoman   Jun-03-07 10:34 PM   #94 
     - Exactly, and then, when they turn around and bitch about us costing them the election...  Solon   Jun-03-07 10:37 PM   #98 
     - I don't have truck with anyone who claims the left lost the Dems '00 and '04  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:55 PM   #112 
        - If you actually believed that, then you directly contradict your own OP...  Solon   Jun-03-07 11:11 PM   #119 
     - My goal is to WIN in '08, not to "win."  LWolf   Jun-04-07 06:38 AM   #136 
     - Our goal isn't to "win" an election. Our goal is to RESTORE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.  Tesha   Jun-04-07 07:43 AM   #140 
  - Yes the solution is to go with Option A or Option A.  MiltonF   Jun-03-07 10:02 PM   #68 
  - LOL!!!  Le Taz Hot   Jun-04-07 09:44 AM   #145 
  - (shrug) They already don't get much time.  BlooInBloo   Jun-03-07 10:03 PM   #69 
  - Kucinich is the best candidate we have.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-03-07 10:04 PM   #71 
  - I'm with you on that.  klook   Jun-03-07 10:08 PM   #74 
     - Kucinich was great tonight being interviewed by Paula Zahn, too.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-04-07 08:04 PM   #163 
  - So how do you propose they be eliminated?  klook   Jun-03-07 10:06 PM   #72 
  - Why don't we behead them?!  StudentProgressive   Jun-03-07 10:09 PM   #77 
     - you want to win in 2008, or you want to have a philosophy colloqium ?  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:24 PM   #88 
        - The fascists always use fear mongering to suppress free speech  StudentProgressive   Jun-03-07 10:42 PM   #103 
        - if your speech isn't useful, you've wasted your freedom and made hot air. nt  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:57 PM   #113 
        - Actually, I want my country back.  Le Taz Hot   Jun-04-07 09:45 AM   #147 
  - Well, I guess you aren't in the Puritan Branch of the Party, then.  nealmhughes   Jun-03-07 10:07 PM   #73 
  - Trotskyites are poster children for the irrelevant wing of the left.  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:19 PM   #85 
     - 40 hr work week, minimum wage, Social Security, Progressive taxation  camero   Jun-03-07 10:25 PM   #89 
     - the labor movement might be a little offended  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:39 PM   #101 
        - Actually you're the one doing the comparing  camero   Jun-03-07 10:43 PM   #105 
        - Dude, you don't know history, the "irrelevent left" WERE the labor unions!  Solon   Jun-03-07 10:49 PM   #108 
           - yes and most of what passes for 'radical' these days doesn't hold a candle to them  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 11:01 PM   #115 
              - Uhm, what the fuck do you call the WTO protests in Seattle almost 10 years ago now...  Solon   Jun-03-07 11:09 PM   #116 
     - Well, I saw a one-man band leading a llama on Jane Street in 1986.  nealmhughes   Jun-03-07 11:10 PM   #118 
  - Yes, let's try to limit debate as much as possible.  ClassWarrior   Jun-03-07 10:13 PM   #81 
  - Politics as usual  johnnie   Jun-03-07 10:13 PM   #82 
  - There are also quite a few 'long time' DUers that are irrelevant  alittlelark   Jun-03-07 10:14 PM   #83 
  - ooh, the dollar is the currency of political discourse after all  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:21 PM   #86 
     - I'm not sure which of us is more effective.  alittlelark   Jun-03-07 10:31 PM   #91 
  - Our WORLD would be a better place if any of these 3 men took office  GeneCosta   Jun-03-07 10:29 PM   #90 
  - Irrelevant left  tavalon   Jun-03-07 10:32 PM   #93 
  - Sounds like we need to make a t-shirt of this one...  calipendence   Jun-03-07 10:34 PM   #95 
     - You succeed in being scary and I'll applaud.  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 10:37 PM   #99 
  - Ah yes, time to comfort the corporatista wing of the Democratic party.  MadHound   Jun-03-07 10:44 PM   #106 
  - do you claim that all the remainder are corporatista candidates ?  dusmcj   Jun-03-07 11:10 PM   #117 
     - Go look at who has contributed to their campaigns  MadHound   Jun-03-07 11:20 PM   #120 
        - harm if the winnable candidates can't start fighting the Repubs  dusmcj   Jun-04-07 01:29 AM   #125 
           - That's just lame, so very lame  MadHound   Jun-04-07 06:37 AM   #135 
  - Kucinich is the only candidate with the integrity to say what needs to be said.  Doremus   Jun-03-07 10:50 PM   #109 
  - Let the voters decide who's in or out.  Jim Sagle   Jun-03-07 10:52 PM   #110 
  - Dodd shouldnt step out  hnmnf   Jun-03-07 11:01 PM   #114 
  - Win at all cost. Toss the irrelevant left overboard.  magellan   Jun-03-07 11:20 PM   #121 
  - Kucinich is irrelevant?  flvegan   Jun-03-07 11:29 PM   #123 
  - Kucinich and the truth - irrelevant in America  upi402   Jun-04-07 01:38 AM   #127 
  - Kucinich doesnt represent the truth.  hnmnf   Jun-04-07 01:46 AM   #128 
     - Hm.  WilliamPitt   Jun-04-07 09:48 AM   #148 
        - BEING RIGHT ALL ALONG = UNREALISTIC, IN CORPORATE MEDIA AMERICA  upi402   Jun-04-07 05:12 PM   #158 
        - That is a great summary of Kucinich  DemReadingDU   Jun-05-07 06:19 AM   #164 
  - Sorry, but your post is BS, based on false premises.  AnOhioan   Jun-04-07 04:06 AM   #130 
  - It's way too early to winnow anything.  Skidmore   Jun-04-07 04:48 AM   #131 
  - That's great.  Ariana Celeste   Jun-04-07 04:52 AM   #133 
  - Maybe we should "winnow" candidates who are out of step with the 70% majority  jgraz   Jun-04-07 04:57 AM   #134 
  - In two out of three cases NYT agrees with you  seemslikeadream   Jun-04-07 07:50 AM   #141 
  - Once a poster says "irrelevent left" and "trotskyite"  Zodiak Ironfist   Jun-04-07 09:52 AM   #149 
  - Yeah, they are such bad liars only republican voters could buy it.  cooolandrew   Jun-04-07 03:03 PM   #153 
  - Thanks for giving me something new...  Hell Hath No Fury   Jun-04-07 11:03 AM   #150 
  - I think Gravel was a lot weaker this time round, but Kucinich was bang on message.  cooolandrew   Jun-04-07 03:01 PM   #152 
  - Kucinich rocked he had the perfect solutions, he is the way forward.  cooolandrew   Jun-04-07 03:04 PM   #154 
  - Loose translation  Aya Reiko   Jun-04-07 03:17 PM   #155 
  - Agreed.  TheWraith   Jun-04-07 04:48 PM   #156 
  - One small problem with that.  LWolf   Jun-04-07 06:56 PM   #162 
  - you like your pablum straight  Enrique   Jun-04-07 06:49 PM   #160 
  - Although I believe they don't have a chance I disagree that they must quit now.  ddeclue   Jun-04-07 06:50 PM   #161 
  - Bite me. How long is it before  mmonk   Jun-05-07 06:21 AM   #165 

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